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FANTASTIC FOUR #587

One of the four will fall!

Story by Jonathan Hickman
Art by Steve Epting

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  1. Avatar photo KickAss says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Very exciting!

  2. Avatar photo andybmcd says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    I will admit that I am very surprised that who has died hasn’t leaked yet.

  3. Avatar photo MrPopular says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Can i put dibs on it being H.E.R.B.I.E. 

  4. Avatar photo AmirCat says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    I’m taking bets.

  5. Avatar photo misterckent says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    It’s on.  Don’t typically read FF, but it seems like a great time to hop on!

  6. Avatar photo cubman987 says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    Can’t wait for this!!!

  7. Avatar photo JNewcomb says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    @AmirCat  I bet my Crime Does Not issue 51 in raw GD – VG that no one dies but rather that one of the members is removed from the team in some other way.

  8. Avatar photo DarkKnightJared says:
    January 24, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    I’m thinking it’s Johnny.

  9. Avatar photo PozrDu says:
    January 24, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    I’m thinking bye-bye Reed.  (We can always turn on The Bridge & get a pile of him anyway.)

    @MrPopular  I wouldn’t mind taking pot shots at that ‘bot just for the cartoon alone.

  10. Avatar photo OttoBott says:
    January 24, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    I’m reading this in trades but…yeah…I’ll buy this.

    My money is on Reed. Johnny packs no emotional punch and Sue dying doesn’t make sense with time-traveling-Val’s monologue. Then again, maybe the kids miscalculated…

  11. Avatar photo cutty says:
    January 24, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    I’d hope Hickman is killing somebody to push his plot instead of just a typical comic book gimmick.  Sue dying is going to going to basically leave Reed un-checked and let him go off on his mad science adventure without regard for pretty much anything else.  Sue is his tether on reality

    If Hickman wants to keep moving forward on the “Solve Everything” plotline, killing Sue would really make it interesting

  12. froggulper says:
    January 24, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    I’ve heard a lot of people say they think it’s going to be Johnny. I’ve been thinking it’ll be Reed.

    It’s hard for me to judge whether or not this constitutes a “gimmick” or whatever it’s the product of what Hickman’s been building doing. I’ve liked this title but haven’t sensed much of a driving plot pointing toward any character’s necessary death. Without the countdown-themed covers getting us ready for this, I think the death would feel like it was totally coming out of nowhere.

    Still, it’s cool to have something like this to get excited about. Polybags have gotten a deservedly bad rap, but in this instance it seems kinda fun.

  13. Avatar photo brianCarbordo says:
    January 24, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Reed or one of the kids.

  14. Avatar photo AmirCat says:
    January 24, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    @JNewcomb  I like that theory. That would be a cop-out, but it’s probably what will happen. I think it will be Reed.

  15. Avatar photo glwarm76 says:
    January 24, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Whose hitting the shop tuesday for this? I am. 

  16. Avatar photo Zeppo says:
    January 24, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    My guess is Reed, but I’ve heard convincing arguments for the Thing.

  17. Avatar photo PozrDu says:
    January 24, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    @Zeppo  Will Bendis let Ben out of his New Avengers’ “No Dying” contract?

  18. Avatar photo Zeppo says:
    January 24, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    I heard a rumour his appearences in the greater Marvel uni, and the Fear Itself promo was misdirection.

    I still think it’s reed.

  19. Avatar photo ctrosejr says:
    January 24, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    My money is on Ben.  But, Reed is a close second.

  20. Avatar photo Loshem says:
    January 24, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    I’m cutting myself off from as many forms of media as I can for the next two days. I don’t want to spoil it.

  21. Avatar photo OttoBott says:
    January 24, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    UPDATE FROM HICKMAN:

    He spoiled it on Twitter

    “It’s Val. She dies from a heart attack. Early onset childhood obesity. …And so begins Marvel’s war on bottle-fed babies.”

    http://tinyurl.com/4rgdx2z

    Called it.
  22. Avatar photo mikeandzod21 says:
    January 24, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    My money is on No one actually dying, but Reed has to fake his death to join the Council of Reeds to save the universe.

  23. Avatar photo NathanNicdao says:
    January 24, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Here we go (back to the 90’s).

  24. Avatar photo bjbancroft says:
    January 24, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    @NathanNicdao have you been reading this?!?

  25. Avatar photo MrWrong says:
    January 24, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I’m having fun actually being excited for this. It’s nice to not feel jaded or suspicious or questioning the motives behind the storyline, but instead I am genuinely excited about this and I don’t know why but I am not going to let anyone talk me out of it. I’m having one of those precious “I love comics and being part of all of this” moment.

  26. Avatar photo JNewcomb says:
    January 24, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    @AmirCat  That was a real bet by the way. I’m willing to honor it if someone wants to meet me on it. Anyone?

  27. Avatar photo Andrew says:
    January 24, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    I know this death won’t be permanent, but I really hope it isn’t Ben. Even a few issues of FF without Ben are unbearable!

  28. Avatar photo OttoBott says:
    January 24, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Ben is the heart of the FF (you might argue Sue is, but I see her more as the common sense that balances Reed’s intelligence out). Johnny is the passion…or the libido.

  29. Avatar photo SteenAR says:
    January 24, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Is this a good time to jump onto this book? lol 

  30. Avatar photo TheNextChampion says:
    January 25, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Now I have to avoid the entire internet and news media for 24hrs so I can’t be spoiled.

    Stupid Marvel. 

  31. Avatar photo Slockhart says:
    January 25, 2011 at 1:09 am

    Wow, the press got ahold of this one fast… I had it spoiled by about 12:45 am

  32. Avatar photo Minion says:
    January 25, 2011 at 2:01 am

    I got spoiled by checking my twitter. Thought I still had a day. Good thing I don’t read it so I don’t mind so much.

  33. incredibledave says:
    January 25, 2011 at 3:08 am

    Just saw the spoiler then on bleedingcool

    Kinda annoyed with who they picked, but oh well

  34. Avatar photo JNewcomb says:
    January 25, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Well, that hapenned.

  35. Avatar photo MacAoidh says:
    January 25, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Hah.

    To make things worse, Cassaday’s cover is kinda horrible. The other one is absolutely fantastic though.

  36. MountNJ says:
    January 25, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Just read it. I just cried. Perfect. Absolutely perfect issue.

  37. Avatar photo Impossibilly says:
    January 25, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Wow, that was a really strong issue. Epting’s art was gorgeous and I loved Hickman’s writing here too. I kind of wish this wasn’t my first issue of their. I’ll have to read the whole story once it’s in trade.

  38. Avatar photo Impossibilly says:
    January 25, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    And kudos to everyone here for keeping this particular page spoiler free so far!

  39. Avatar photo andybmcd says:
    January 25, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    This issue was frakking fantastic.  The work-up to the death scene, the kids/Johnny/Ben trying to figure out how to stave off the Annihilation Wave, the Sue/Namor, and Galactus owning the crap out of Nu-Earth, all of it was a perfect wrap to the Three story.

  40. Avatar photo JNewcomb says:
    January 25, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    @djd  So it’s not a clearcut death?

  41. Avatar photo johnnyst0rm says:
    January 25, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Flame on!

  42. Avatar photo AquaPimp82 says:
    January 25, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    And here I was thinking we would get a clearcut death. This “death” will be easy to undo. 

  43. Avatar photo TexasZombie99 says:
    January 25, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Was there two covers? I got an awesome Alan Davis cover in my polybag. If there is random covers then that’s pretty cool. I noticed there wasn’t a barcode on the actual comic too, just on the polybag.

  44. Avatar photo NathanNicdao says:
    January 25, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Seriously, thanks everyone for the spoiler free thread up to now.

  45. Avatar photo justincresswell says:
    January 25, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Really good.  Lots of goodness packed into one dynamic shot of a story.  Sad but gallant and well done.  That is, if he’s really gone.  Thinking Johnny will end up in a support group with Steve Rogers and Bruce Wayne and all those Brightest Day souls so they can talk about their alive-dead-alive-superhero feelings.

    As an aside – working late at the office tonight, dropped into the comic shop to grab an issue, read it in the car, then went into the office and put my copy on my bosses desk, walked into my office to see he had put a copy on my desk already.  Pretty cool

  46. Avatar photo gruvenreuven says:
    January 25, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    And the one to leave this mortal coil is…… ME, if I would have spoiled it 🙂 😉 😉

    Awesome issue!!! 

  47. Avatar photo Jediaxle says:
    January 25, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Great issue. Hickman has made me care about the FF.

    It was also kinda fun avoiding spoilers all day getting my book and rushing home to read it right away.

    So is the FF book going to continue as is? Thought I read something said next issue will be the last. I’m guessing they will have a fanastic 3 book instead.

  48. Jdudley says:
    January 25, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Kind of annoying how so many people are upset about this death being a publicity stunt–meanwhile, it’s been an incredible story and the mystery element of which 4 will die actually makes this quite different than Death of: cap, superman, batman, flash, ect, ect.
    The mystery of which of the four will die actually heightened the anticipation in this already great story, at least it certainly has for me. 

  49. Avatar photo k5blazer says:
    January 25, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    The hype about the death aside, this issue was well done, as has been the case through the entire Hickman run.

  50. Avatar photo Ragtime says:
    January 26, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    I think the arc was great, and would have been better only if the ending weren’t exactly the same as Wrath of Khan (with Sue as Kirk and Reed as Scotty, by the way.)

  51. Avatar photo cubman987 says:
    January 26, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! – My LCS was out of this by the time I got there :'(  Ordered it online, but I have to wait a week to read it now.

  52. Avatar photo TheNextChampion says:
    January 26, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Marvel handled this very poorly.

    But Hickman executed (bad choice of words there) this perfectly. Everything about this issue, as a ‘death’ issue and ending an arc, was great. Loved the Sue/Namor stuff and it has the best panel of the week in my opinion with their final moments. But the death with Johnny was again handled perfectly and I loved every second of it. Great work by Hickman and Epting.

    5/5 

  53. Avatar photo ResurrectionFlan says:
    January 26, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Maybe this isn’t the book for me.

  54. Avatar photo MrWrong says:
    January 26, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    I loved it. I avoided spoilers by painfully living without the Internet for these past couple of days. In Hickman I trust.

  55. Avatar photo Crippler says:
    January 26, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    This has been a GREAT run.  I’m really interested in where it goes next. 

  56. Avatar photo Skyfire124 says:
    January 27, 2011 at 3:08 am

    Of course there’s going to be hype…are we really going to have the death of a major character and noone talks about it and Marvel just says, no we’re not going to promote this?  I’m not a Fantastic 4 reader, but this generated enough buzz to get me to buy all five from the Three/Casualty storyline…and I really enjoyed it.   Im even willing to check out the next couple issues to see if this turns into something I want to pick up regularly.  This was a beautifully told story, and even a non-follower like me had no problem figuring out what was going on.

    That being said, it WOULD be nice not to have had the ending spoiled early.  You’d have thought they learned that from the Death of Cap. 

  57. Avatar photo kndoubleu says:
    January 27, 2011 at 6:08 am

    Am I the only one who read the last few (wonderful) pages as basically Bruce Willis cutting Ben Affleck’s air supply and shoving him into the space ship?

  58. Avatar photo chop360 says:
    January 27, 2011 at 7:29 am

    got me interested in reading the FF for the first time

  59. Avatar photo themanagement says:
    January 27, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    SOLD OUT everywhere, and the A.V. Club blatantly spoiled the death on Monday.  What a total FAIL!!

  60. Avatar photo dgazzuolo says:
    January 27, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    I swear my black bag was double coded in heafty material. I had to get my teeth in that action. Could they maybe just put the next bagged issue in a zip-lock?

  61. Avatar photo dgazzuolo says:
    January 27, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    @dgazzuolo  coated…and hefty…you damn fool.

  62. Avatar photo Loshem says:
    January 27, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    A few people mentioned that the avoided media and the internet to avoid spoilers. I too became a hermit, especially since Marvel announced that this issue would be coming out a day early to beat the media coverage. All in all a great issue! I bought the countdown series to get caught up on this arc and I must say for someone who has not been a dedicated reader of this series the death was very emotional given the circumstances around it. Hickman has a way of drawing the reader in and making each character meaningful until the end. Sad to see the series ending but excited to see what happens with the rest of the team.

  63. Avatar photo mikeandzod21 says:
    January 28, 2011 at 12:29 am

    Man I wish I couldve read this without knowing Steve Rogers was gunned down on the court house steps.

  64. Avatar photo NathanNicdao says:
    January 28, 2011 at 8:34 am

    The next character Chris Evans plays will die.

     

    And Reed should’ve said “WTF?!” instead of “My god.” There are bait-n-switch scams in other planets too!

  65. Avatar photo JonSamuelson says:
    January 28, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @kndoubleu  Nope, I was thinking the EXACT same thing.

  66. Thechangingman says:
    January 29, 2011 at 10:31 am

    I succumbed to the hype surrounding this book but now I can go back to completely ignoring it again.

  67. Avatar photo USPUNX says:
    January 31, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Classy and amazing

  68. metalhead633 says:
    February 1, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Check out the review of this issue on Critic Hammer

    http://www.critichammer.com/comics/2011/1/28/comic-reviews-for-1262011.html 

  69. Avatar photo jlddlj11 says:
    February 4, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Yeah, there’s no way the dead FF member could have survived that….kind of disappointed about that.  At least we saw Cap get gunned down on the courthouse steps.  Oh well, besides the disappointing “death” it was a good issue and I loved Namor and Susan 🙂

  70. Avatar photo cubman987 says:
    February 9, 2011 at 12:14 am

    Finally got to read this, really good stuff, even knowing who was going to die I still really enjoyed this.

  71. Avatar photo cahubble09 says:
    February 13, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Enjoyed this … but … he didn’t look dead to me … he’ll be coming back as a brooding and vengeful, “they left me for dead”, anti-hero.

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