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This review contains spoilers, click here to read
I don't know. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man, raging against the machine of Marvel at the stupidity of the whole "Brand New Day" crap they unleashed on long-time Marvel fans. Maybe I liked the JMS run on "Amazing" more than I thought I did. But - with the exception of a few issues here and there - I have been pretty disappointed with the reboot. Case in point: Spider-man 600.
Yes, the art is great - actually, better than great. Yes, Slott certainly knows how to write a witty Spidey, and I'd LOVE to see Slott and JRJR do a Spider-man/Human Torch mini-series. Yes, the Aunt May/JJ senior scenes had some weight to them. And, yes, Doc Ock looks pretty damn creepy, and, like Conor, I LOVE that this whole new look and raison d'etre for Ock is pretty much due to the fact that his super power does not extend to keeping his head padded when getting slammed by the Hulk and Captain America. But did we have to reboot the whole history of the Spider-man universe in order to get these stories?
It may just be that I've been reading Spidey since the late 70s and followed along with him into the 80s. I was in high school when he got married, and, considering what came before it, it felt right, moreso than Superman and Lois. With Clark and Lois, it seemed like, from day one, they were going to be together - it's how they were written for 50 years before the wedding. With Pete, he's had a few other girlfriends before even meeting MJ. Betty and Liz were hanging around, and then of course, there was Gwen, and even then Pete and MJ didn't get together. There were a few years with the Black Cat, and THEN everything started to click into place with MJ. It felt...earned, not just thrown at us with the intention of "Ok, we're going to introduce this character here, and then in 15 issues they'll be married".
Anway, the reason for the diatribe is that, as far as Peter and MJ went, I just never felt that there was an anchor on Spider-man stories due to the fact that he was married. If anything, it augmented to Peter to me. But be that as it may, since Bland New Day, Peter's rebooted lovelife has been anything but. Case in point: the Carlie and new roommate characters (she is so uninteresting I honestly don't remember her name). Both of these characters might as well have a sign hung over them saying "Cute, sassy, successful chick for Pete to have sexual tension with". Not until the last page, and the return of MJ (hopefully for good) is there even a hint of real, earned tension that warrants a 'to be continued'. I don't know. Am I the only one who feels the Bland New Day hasn't really paid off (other than the "American Son" storyline). I get that Marvel made a mistake with having everyone knowing Spidey's identity, but most of these stories don't feel worthy of Marvel's flagship character anymore.
The rest of the issue is fine. I actually laughed a couple of times at Stan Lee's story (Marcos Martin = AWESOME), but the other ones I could give or take. I would have been happy with just the Stan story and then a whole slew of those fake covers.
So, in closing, fun and forgetable story, great art, creepy Doc Ock, and the return of MJ push this one into the "Meh - it's ok" category.
Art: 5 - Excellent
Nice review.
Thanks, chlop. Sorry if I come off a little grumpy. That’s been my general feeling about this book since "Bland New Day".
I completely agree with you which makes me a grumpy old man as well. I think that’s the point for Marvel. They are not worried about the "old" guys but the new generation of readers. The reboot makes since from a business standpoint but sucks for us. My first Spidey story was #124 which I bought from the rack at the local drugstore. I’ve been hooked ever since. Spidey was character I related to as I grew up. In fact he married MJ right about the time I married in my life. For us this is old ground. We have "been there and done that." I think Marvel figures we are not going anywhere but what what about all the younger readers and future readers. It’s a Brand New Day.
I couldn’t agree w/you more, Indy, especially about growing upt with Spidey and relating to Peter as a growing character. I felt that the whole ‘deal with the devil’ reboot completely delegitamized 20 years of stories and character development. And not only on a character level, but their relationship had so much weight in the early days of the marraige. And here’s my biggest question from this whole thing, and maybe I’m a little too concerned w/continuity then I should, but when I go back and read, say, the first Venom stories that Michelinie and McFarlane did together, where MJ was terrorized by Venon AT THEIR HOME – did that happen? Or was MJ merely visting Peter, not living in their own pad? How does MJ figure into KRAVEN’S LAST HUNT? As bad as the clone saga ended up being, did she still lose the baby?? I know that’s all really literal, and maybe Marvel will address it at some point, but there’s ‘literally’ THOUSANDS of instances where the same continuity question exists.
And just for the record, I read the first 3 issues of BLAND NEW DAY, thought they were horrible (Slott/Mcniven intro of Mr. Negative and JJ has yet ANOTHER heart attack – yawn), and started picking it up again around issue 588 only because I read that they were going to start to address the remifacations of BLAND NEW DAY.
One more addendum to the back up features on issue #600. The Madame Web (Geoff Johns!) device of foreshadowing the next year? Not ONE thing I saw peaked my interest. I guess we’re just going to have rely on NEW AVENGERS to get any exposure to the Spidey we grew up with, Indy. And yes, I’m a grumpy old man, dammit!! Flibbity floo!
Marvel could have shown Peter dealing with the guilt of Aunt May’s death and milked that for awhile. I mean of all stories that need to happen for time progression it is Aunt May kicking the bucket. Unfortunately, we all will be dead before this character meets any logical conclusion.
No offense, but this was a TERRIBLE review. It’s not really a review of ASM #600, it’s a year and a half old rant on ONE MORE DAY. Get over it already.
Your review for the book is a good one:
"Yes, the art is great – actually, better than great. Yes, Slott certainly knows how to write a witty Spidey, and I’d LOVE to see Slott and JRJR do a Spider-man/Human Torch mini-series. Yes, the Aunt May/JJ senior scenes had some weight to them. And, yes, Doc Ock looks pretty damn creepy, and, like Conor, I LOVE that this whole new look and raison d’etre for Ock is pretty much due to the fact that his super power does not extend to keeping his head padded when getting slammed by the Hulk and Captain America."
And then you say this: "But did we have to reboot the whole history of the Spider-man universe in order to get these stories?"
Why even bother reading the book if you’re going to carry around that much hate for a story from over 50 issues ago?
Yeah, I’m not denying that it sounds like sour grapes, Greg, but wouldn’t the review for an anniversary issue be the place to kind of take stock of the direction of the series? I guess when you’ve invested more years into a character than cumulative years worked, you feel a certain closeness to the character. Obviously I’m not alone in my disregard for the ‘deal with the devil’ horsecrap, but even still, I’ve liked the last 10 issues and will probably start buying it again based solely off of those. I’m sure that there’s a character you feel very strongly about, Greg – otherwise you wouldn’t be a comic fan, right? – and believe me, if someone went in and waved a magic wand and said ‘poof! Everything you know about this character is crap and HERE’S how it should be.’, you’d be a little put off. That being said, yes, I’m still a little bitter about it, and I make no excuses for that fact.
I can see where you were disappointed and well it’s point well taken and honestly I had "brand new day" gag reflex since reading the trade (from the library…) So I can really see where you’re coming from.
In all honesty what has worked with me is simply just ignoring (yes ignoring) that brand new day is continuity…. yeah sounds stupid but also constructive alltogether. I’m just hoping that they find a way to simply get to a point where Mephisto’s Deal doesn’t matter anymore (in terms of relevence).
"Bland New Day". Very clever.