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AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #6 (OF 12)

• ACT TWO BEGINS!

• Jonathan Hickman joins superstar artist Olivier Coipel (SIEGE) to launch Act Two of the biggest Marvel event of the year!

• What is Pax Utopia?

• The Phoenix has come to Earth, and everything changes…

• And the Scarlet Witch enters the fray!

Story by Jonathan Hickman
Art by Olivier Coipel
Cover by Jim Cheung, Nick Bradshaw, & Olivier Coipel

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  1. And with this issue, this book becomes something special. Ladies and gentlemen… Olivier Coipel!

    • I liked Romita’s work, but I’m really excited to see Coipel take this second act to a whole new level.

      And given what we saw in the background of X-Men Legacy last week (oh wait, no one else reads that but me I think), I’m hoping the Phoenix Force 5 don’t seem too much like the Authority.

    • I do! I’m cool with it. It’s a new story for the X-Men, and a logical progression of their story over the last 10 years.

    • About GD time. Had no idea I’d have to get thru 6 issues of sloppy Romita work when I added this to my pull list. I have to say that the inker did a good job of making Romita’s rough work look decent, but Romita is clearly just a layout artist — and barely a penciller these days.

    • @KenOchalek, I read Legacy and Phoenix Cyclops looked awesome.

    • @KenOchalek “Phoenix Force 5”

      “Phoenix” because they get their power from the Phoenix, “force” because they are a force to be reckoned with, and “5” because there’s 1-2-3-4-5 of them.

    • @huntersan182 Which one tells the joke about the baby tomato?

  2. MadCowDzz MadCowDzz (@DarylFritz) says:

    How long as Cyclops dressed like Nightwing?

  3. filippod filippod (@filippodee) says:

    First the Serpent’s line of day-glo clothing for heavy duty workers. Now the Phoenix line for bdsm disco fashionistas. Apparently uberpowerful entities in the Marvel Universe are fashion freaks.

  4. Wether the Worthy or Phoenix Force 5, i just don’t get why everybody gets tronified in Marvel events these days.

  5. I dunno. I’m a big fan of Coipel’s art, but I’m not sure if that’s enough to keep me coming back to this event. This one just might not be for me… glad some folks are enjoying it though.

    • If you’ve read the story this far pick up this issue, it’s really good and is not just more of the same we really get a sense of what to come in the event. Also the art is dope!

  6. is it me or is Emma Frost’s costume getting well… next to nothing she might as well wear a handkerchief?

  7. I love Hickman and Coipel’s work, but there is no way I am buying any more of this shit sandwich.

    • Wrkngclasshero (@joinedtofollow) says:

      I agree with you. I wasted $20 on the first five issues and I just don’t think I care about where this story is going.

    • yeah but you cant just get through half a story and decide you dont need to finish it to make a decision about it. you’re already so far in, might as well see how it ends then decide if you’re disappointed or not.

    • @imaferretmaster. Thats exactly where I am right now. I have spent enough money on this I may as well see it through. I think the problem is it was way over advertised and hyped. Very underwhelming to this point. But who knows, maybe there is a trick up someones sleeve…..hopefully anyway..

    • @BigDougJ yeah pretty much, i mean i havent been that impressed with it but hell its already issue 6 and now that hickman is writing im hoping things start to improve. i though the phoenix avatar thing was kind of cool so i figure i’ll see where it goes, but for my own hording purposes i am incapable of beginning a limited series and dropping it halfway through.

  8. I saved them all up and read them in one sitting this weekend, plus the relevant Wolvering and the X-Men issues. Loved it! Looking forward to this one. Yes some of the art could have been better, but the story was well-balanced between action and characters in my opinion.

  9. I may drop this as well, or just read the last page in the shop.

  10. Still liking the AVX title and do not understand what is the problem with others not liking it. This is a good old fashioned comic book and there are no super deep plots or plans right now as it seems. I am enjoying the ride and I do not want to get off.
    Artwork has been pretty darn good as well and I still think The Phoenix is after someone other than Hope and now it has possesed some of the X-Men because of the Iron Man Phoenix Buster splitting it up.

    K

  11. I dropped this a while ago, but I am still interested in the Infinite Comics issues. Since I don’t do digital comics, will there be another way to get these issues?

    • filippod filippod (@filippodee) says:

      Yes, albeit an expensive one:

      AVENGERS VS. X-MEN HC

      Collecting:
      – AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #0-12
      – AVX: VS. #1-6
      – AVENGERS VS. X-MEN: INFINITE #1, #6 and #9
      – Material from POINT ONE

      $75.00 – 528 pages. Oversized.
      ISBN: 978-0-7851-6317-6

    • So that will be about $50 or so on Amazon. That’s not bad at all for over 20 issues worth of material.

    • They’re collecting the Infinite comics physically? What a terrible idea.

    • Sounds like a good idea to me.

      I’d rather have read the first one physically. I hated using the IPad. Different strokes yo.

    • Cool, thank you much.

      @Ken Amazon preorder is $42.39, I think I am going to order it today. I can always cancel if I hear bad things…

    • I just mean, the thing that made Infinite so cool was the fact that the progression was designed with digital in mind. The story isn’t that interesting, rather the medium through which the story is told is the engaging and amazing part. That won’t translate to paper. Hell, Waid and Immomen said so in interviews when it came out.

      I’m a paper reader, true blue, but that one issue convinced me that digital is the future of this medium and how we tell stories within it. But whatevs.

    • Does that mean there is a new infinite comic today? If so is it at the back of the digital one like issue 1 was?

    • @Jediaxle yes. I don’t know if you get it automatically for buying a digital copy but I bought the physical copy and when I redeemed the code I got the infinite comic with it. It’s almost as awesome as the first and it has relevance to the avx story, which actually started getting good today.

  12. I’m enjoying the series and dug the issue to boot.

  13. Just finished reading this issue. Feel like the Xmen are marvels punching bag. 🙁

  14. My shop said they aren’t getting this until next week. Anyone else?

  15. This should have been the second issue. Why have we had to wade through 6 pointless issues to get to this brilliant story? Hickman should just write it himself.

  16. Finally this series is going somewhere. First great issue

  17. by far the best issue yet

  18. hey guys. finally signed up after being just a reader of the site. i agree that with this issue, the series finally feels like it’s going somewhere. i do have one issue though (that really applies to the whole AvX event): why does everyone keep saying that jean was possessed by the phoenix and died??? the phoenix took on jean’s body and died – the real jean grey was safely tucked away in some cocoon and discovered (was it by the FF?) in x-factor #1. or did i miss something and that was retconned?

    • I think that what most people remember about the Phoenix, and Jean for that matter, is the possession/death thing, not so much the sloppy retcon that brought her back later. Marvel’s probably just massaging continuity a little bit to make things a little less complicated, a tactic that I greatly prefer to DC’s clear-the-decks mentality. But that might just be me.

  19. I really enjoy the new X-Men in this, especially the way they depicted what’s been done on Utopia. I also love the dissent through the individual members of the Avengers, with Beast and T’Challa disagreeing with the others. The Thor example he brought up makes total sense.

    And having Coipel on this makes things much better. I know Romita gets a lot of respect in the industry, but his last issues just seemed so rushed and sloppy. Coipel drawing Wanda as well brings a nice full-circle tie in to House of M.

    I had no idea there was another Infinite issue to go with this release until I started reading some of this feedback. There seemed to be no mention of it in the issue itself? These are a HUGE draw for me to get a comic, and they should be advertised as such.

    And has there been a more useless implementation of the AR tech than this issue? No bonus features. No interviews with creators. Just low-res pencil sketches. One of them even incorrectly showed a panel from a previous issue. I think they can go much further with the creator’s commentary throughout using this technology.

    • And having just finished the Infinite issue… GO AND DOWNLOAD THIS.

      I can’t say the tech was utilized as well as the first issue, but I enjoyed the story much more. Goes way deep into the mind of Scott in a very “Dr. Manhattan On Mars”-like scenario.

      This was wonderful. Enjoyed it more than the issue itself.

  20. Damn, this story is finally getting good. Really good, if I may be so bold! Some epic stuff happening here. Haven’t read all my books yet, but this is looking like POTW for me.

    • I finished this and thought this is my POTW then looked at my next book and at was Saga. Well it was fun for AvsX while it lasted.

  21. filippod filippod (@filippodee) says:

    I’m glad seeing to see this saga getting some love. It’s not really my cup of tea (even if I am moderately enjoying it) probably because I’m old enough to remember when such a thing would be done in a handful of issues, over a couple of regular series and with no tie-ins. But as mentioned, I’m glad to see some love for it.

  22. I am enjoying this series for the first time…I like the “Phoenix 5,” and I like the big moral questions being bandied about: Is it OK for someone or a group to have infinite power if they’re all doing the right things?, etc. Art is acceptable, and I’m finally interested in the story…

  23. Jacen Chris Jacen Chris (@jcbhatestweeter) says:

    I feel like I was the only person who absolutely couldn’t stand this book. It had it’s moments, but it just didn’t do it for me.

  24. Definitely an improvement. Worth reading and I’m actually excited for what comes next. Though is it just me, or is this kinda similar to Hickman’s Ultimate Avengers storyline?

  25. Good story movement. I hope that we don’t spend another 6 issues on the same beat.

    • I plan on re-reading the first act over the weekend, but I think this is a valid criticism. I wasn’t too bothered by the pacing as the issues were coming out, but given where the story is now, I feel like we maybe could have gotten to this point more quickly.

    • I thought this exact same thing. Now that we’re here I’m questioning how long it’s taken.

    • Well, I just re-read 0-6 in nearly one sitting, and it all works for me. The first act moves pretty briskly, so I can see how some people might have felt like they weren’t getting enough story in each issue, but taken as a whole I was satisfied.

      And I get that Romita’s isn’t some folks cup of tea, I think he did a great job on this book, but let no one say the man can’t tell a story. The storytelling during the Cap/Wolverine fight in issue 3 is absolutely outstanding.

  26. Olivier Coipel’s artwork is so pretty, clean, and dynamic, that one can almost ignore the crappy plot in this issue. For all intents and purposes, this is a shameless rehash of House of M. Siege Courageous… he-he!

    Please check my mini-review here:

    http://bit.ly/Lmp9yO

    Comments and feedback are always welcome!

  27. Great Writing.
    Great Artwork.

    What a Novel Concept – Make a great book using all of Marvel’s best characters.

    Now we’re on to something.

  28. Easily my favorite issue of the series so far. The artwork was outstanding ( I am not really a fan of JRJR) and now the story is taking surprising twists that I didn’t see coming. This is my POTW.

  29. I can’t believe an AVX book stole my pick of the week (Saga was very close). Did anyone catch that previously the phoenix almost caused a “celestial rebirth of earth,” or essentially a reboot? Dan Slot claims there is not reboot but I’m not so sure 😉

  30. Finally some good art! Fun issue. Never stopped liking this. The haters are going to miss out

  31. after 5 issues of the x men being the clear villains, it’s interesting to see what they’re doing.
    now, this was the first time i don’t agree with the avengers.
    thor shouldnt have punched that kid,
    and they shouldnt have tried to kidnap hope.

    but it’s still clear who are the good guys.

  32. Shit ruled. Totally felt the tension. I want more Hickman and Coipel. What a great team.

  33. I really liked this story back when it was in Miracleman and called The Golden Age!

    I’m kidding Mr. Hickman, please keep writing good comics.

  34. Freakin EPIC. Collossus, metal god, most metal line in comic history (Judas Priest)

    I love it.

  35. mrcozdude mrcozdude (@mrcozdude) says:

    Really solid issue, it has really changed my mind on the whole avx story.

  36. These Infinite comics look fantastic in my 23″ computer screen, there is no question about it. The thing is: the reliance on the visuals is almost absolute, while the story takes a back seat. I also noted that Marvel just created an emergency exit in case Cyclops’ crazyness backfires.

    Please check my mini-review of AvX Infinite #2 here:

    http://bit.ly/NFarn4

    Comments and feedback are always welcome!

  37. I liked this one. Hated the end of last issue, dropped it, then saw the art change, bought it, enjoyed it. I like what they did with the pheonix five.

  38. I’ve not hated the first five issues, they’ve not been amazing, but they’ve been OK but this issue really ramped everything up, I thought it was brilliant. Lots happening, some great action and absolutely beautiful artwork from Coipel, as always.

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