AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #8

• Last stand in Wakanda as an out-of-control Namor invades this sovereign nation in pursuit of the Avengers!

• And a shocking truth stands revealed that may cause fractures in the X-Men’s alliance!

Story by Brian Michael Bendis
Art by Adam Kubert & John Dell
Colors by Laura Martin & Larry Molinar
Letters by Chris Eliopoulos
Cover by Jim Cheung, Justin Ponsor, Jerome Opena, Justin Ponsor, & Alan Davis

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  1. Last week I downloaded issue 1-7. I’ve not read a Marvel book in a while, but the NOW relaunch has interested me, so I thought I’d give this a go.

    I really liked issue 1-6, more than I thought I would, but the last issue, 7, was a complete misfire. I didn’t understand a word of it. Bendis returning for this issue makes me think at least it will have good diologue.

    I think the 12 issue arc was a mistake, but if the team can pull this off and end as well we they started, I can forgive a poor middle.

  2. I got my boyfriend to start reading this since he’s an old school fan of the X-Men and wanted to check it out. Now he’s asking me every week if there’s a new issue.

  3. Hickman knocked it up a serious notch with issue #6 but Fraction sucked bad last month. He really took the wind out of this mini’s sails.

    • Glad I’m not alone in my thinking.

    • Yea last issue was definitely a let down especally after following such a great issue BUT I always wonder how much real creative control/freedom these guys have on books like this. I’m sure Marvel has a huge say on how the story has to develop and what can and cannot be included. I generally don’t count these kinds of books (event books, sometimes crossovers) to the writers reputation. I mean come on you have Bendis, Fraction, Brubaker Hickman, and Aaron involved in all of the first 5 books and well not one of those issues was not even remotely up to the respective writer’s normal quality of writing.

    • Fraction is horrible now! What happened? Everything after the dark avengers/xmen crossover has been terrible in my opinion. Defenders was awful, fear itself was atrocious, his Thor stuff is just ridiculous, and now he’s about to start a hawkeye book *rolls eyes*.

    • filippod filippod (@filippodee) says:

      I haven’t read Fear Itself, nor Thor but I like Fraction’s Defenders and I’m totally open to give Hawkeye a chance.

  4. This event has had so many ups and downs for me. After 7 issues, I really think now that it was a mistake to have multiple writers over 12 issues. I do not think he is a terrible writer, but Fraction definitely has been the worst on this. I also would much rather have had just Hickman because I think he would have been the best fit. His issue was definitely one of the better ones, but he has the least experience with any of these characters and would have written probably the most even sided story similar to Millar did on Civil War.

    • I totally agree. I mean, the event is fun and all, but each issue’s tone is wildly inconsistent due to the different writers. And i’m totally with you, Hickman’s two issues have been the best.

  5. Hickman and Coipel should have done the entire series.

  6. Arrrggghhh Arrrggghhh (@Arrrggghhh) says:

    Tired of these “events” that seem to be driven by editorial decisions.
    After the last issue, I’ve dropped this just like last the past two Marvel “events”.

    • I have to agree. I try and give Marvel a shot every once in a while, but their events have been overwhelmingly disappointing. The only book that’s been consistently good is Remender’s Uncanny X-Force which stays away from AvX territory.

  7. This is a pull for me, but honestly, this event has been hit & miss, with a whole lot of miss. Initially, it felt like the build-up was taking WAY too long; like the writers were trying to take a 6 issue event and stretch it out to 12 issues. Now, it feels like the whole thing has been nothing but a build-up to “Marvel: NOW!”

    I’m an X-Men fan from the Claremont days, so I’m committed to following any event featuring the mutants. AvX is one of the instances in which I’m following more out of obligation than enjoyment.

  8. While the writing has been inconsistent, it probably should have been one writer, I have overall enjoyed AvX. I think it’s been a lot of fun, the only main problem being its length. 12 issues at 3.99 each with tax comes to about $50, and that’s just the main book.

  9. So anyone else think Cyclops is going to die by the end of the series?

    • I could see that. It’s a shame what has happened to his character since Fraction/Gillen/etc. If you go back and read Whedon’s Astonishing, or just the pre-Utopia stuff, he was in his prime. Now (before the Phoenix takeover) he’s just a one-note, everybody is against me, jerkoff

    • There seems to be a quite a hero’s journey Cyclops could go on…I am going to say the sacrifice will come from Xavier. He hasnt been around, apparently hanging with the party people of Ibiza. I think he is someone who whose message would be heard just as loudly from the hereafter.

  10. Sigh that Hickman/Coipel issue was easily the best one in the series. I thought things were picking up with #6 and I liked that there was ambiguity as to whether the X-folk or the Avengers were right in their actions. But now…well I guess the X-men are being portrayed as the villains. Not so fun for me. Nevermind that I enjoy Coipel’s art a lot more than Kubert (then again, at least I like Adam’s work more than Andy’s).

  11. Tired of hearing all the complaining…. what would you guys do to make it “better”.

    • Not have the x-men blindly follow 5 characters who are clearly insane

    • Construct a story that follows an actual arc, with clearer motivations for characters and some modicum of continuity from one issue to the next. Frankly, I would have chosen to focus on fewer characters from both teams and come up with a more sensible reason for conflict. I don’t think there is any basis for Scott Summers to have believed that the Phoenix coming to Earth was somehow going to be the salvation for the mutants. Based on what Cyke? When did he develop blind faith in this cosmic being he has been intimately familiar with for years that had shown him nothing but unbridled chaos? Say what you will about Civil War, but at least the conflict was clear.

    • Not have characters risk their lives four an idea that they couldn’t possibly know about. The X-men think the phoenix will regenerate their race… huh? Since when has the Phoenix done anything but try and destroy? Someone says that the pheonix is coming for hope and suddenly it is fact. The avengers have no reason to still pursue hope other than the writer wants them to. The worst thing about this event is that they are letting the plot rule the characters rather than let the characters and their motivations rule the direction of the story.

  12. Perhaps the worst issue so far.

  13. This event needs to end asap. Its gotten painful at this point. Diehard marvel fan, particularly x-men, and this is at my tolerable point.

  14. This series has had its high points and not so great moments but overall I am still enjoying the ride. My one bone of contention is with the damn Scarlet Witch. In issue zero Vision read her the riot act and showed her the door and the rest of the Avengers shared an awkward silence while she ran off to lick her wounds. Turns out she’s an asset against the Phoenix and suddenly Vision is swooping in to save her and all the Avengers are her pals again. With friends like that, I think I can hear the whistle of the crazy train coming into that station for her again.

  15. Wow, this was….uh….this was not good. Well, at least, it wasn’t working for me, so if others like it I don’t wanna disrespect what you enjoy. Hickman’s issues have so far been the only ones I’ve even remotely enjoyed and really I kinda keep buying these for reasons beyond logic. It’s like stopping to look at a car crash sort of voyeurism, I suppose. The art had some solid moments, but lots and lots of muddled panels where I did not know what I was looking at, who I was looking at or when these unknown things got to that unknown place.

  16. This continues from how bad last issue was it’s a shame how up and down this series has been because there has been moments I’ve really enjoyed. Hopefully they can pull it together for the ending

  17. PymSlap PymSlap (@alaska_nebraska) says:

    I loved the art! For me, Bendis makes great use of The Thing for comedic effect.

  18. Namor loses all his screws as he davastates Wakanda, then he gets the crap beaten out of him by the Avengers, and then he…. wow, you have to read it. Xavier shows up and makes a profetic promise, and Adam Kubert’s art is awesome.

    Please check my mini-review of AvX #8 here:

    http://bit.ly/SJTBEt

    Comments and feedback are always welcome!

    • finally, someone takes the phoenix force away from namor. the only good namor is when he’s trying to steal the invisible woman’s heart.

  19. This was an awesome issue. I dont understand how anyone could be confused with the panels in this issue, they were pretty damn descriptive to me.

    Anyway, I enjoyed this issue and so far the whole arc has been great.

  20. Why do they even put the creators names on the front of a book like this? It’s all editorial and corporate mandated uni-think. If it’s not I am sad. Universe wide story directions are kind of shit aren’t they? LET THE BOOKS BE FREE MARVEL AND DC. LET THEM BE THEMSELVES!!!!

  21. I think my big problem with this issue is that it took too long to get here.

    That being said I am thrilled that someone finally decided to brush the dust of Charles Xavier and use him for something, although it would have been nice if it had been for more than just an out of nowhere threat at the end of the issue.

    • My current half-baked theory is that Xavier will end up hosting the Phoenix when this is all said and done. If that’s the case, I like two possibilities:

      1. He’s powerful enough (perhaps with the help of the Infinity mind gem — if he still has it?) to contain and control the Phoenix power. Then he goes off into space to use the Phoenix force to do some good in the universe. This has the benefit of giving Xavier a new purpose, and would also add another linkage between the X-Men and the cosmic characters.

      2. He’s powerful enough to contain the Phoenix Force, but uses that power and control to (as Hope planned) kill himself and rid the universe of the Phoenix. He’s already largely ignored in the X-books, but this would give him a big send off and might work as atonement for the really shady stuff he’s done in the past. It also sets the stage for a very new status quo for the Marvel Now! X-books.

    • Ken – your idea about the use of the mind gem is pretty smart! I’d forgotten where that had wound up after the Avengers story with the Red Hood.

  22. Wanting to get back into some Marvel books, I had hopes this event would lead me back in…. Darn it Marvel, do you not want my business that much? Besides a few moment the series has been hard for me to enjoy. It really shows that the book has been written by committee. The plot of the phoenix coming to “help” mutantkind is shaky at best. I dropped the series after number five, then I hear about the non-reboot, so I thought maybe it gets way better as it goes along. Now I can kick myself for giving Marvel the benefit of the doubt. What can I expect for the Marvel Now books?

  23. This series is really beginning to run dry. To be honest I think it was fickle from the beginning and deteriorated throughout. I don’t think I’ll stick it out to the end and the dam thing will now forever sit on my drawer!

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