Pick of the Week Podcast

01.11.2009 – Episode #166 – Hellboy The Wild Hunt #2

Show Notes

Running Time: 00:59:59

January 11, 2009 – Ron is back and it’s a light week of books that leads Josh to spread some love to Hellboy.


Comics:
00:001:55 – Josh’s Pick of the WeekHellboy: The Wild Hunt #2 – reminded him why he loves Mignola’s world so much.
00:11:36 – Rick Remender and Jerome Opena brought it in Punisher #1.
00:16:33 – Ron was totally crushing on Blue Monday: Thieves Like Us #1.
00:19:48 – Conor shocks the world with his thoughts on Secret Invasion: War of Kings!
00:26:31 – Amazing Spider-Man #582 brings the old-school fun.
00:28:38 – The art in Jonah Hex #39 didn’t endear itself to Josh and Conor.
00:30:26 – The Walking Dead #57 made Josh appreciate sound effects.
00:33:36 – Paul Dini is achieving the impossible in Detective Comics #862.  Make him stop!

User Reviews:
00:36:39 – biftec loved Buffy the Vampire Slayer #21 with some reservations.
00:39:24 – Templar loves Gail Simone on Secret Six #5.

E-Mail:

00:41:15 – Gary Lewis has a few questions about comics and money.
00:46:05 – Ed from Canberra, Australia
wants to know who iFanboy thinks The Punisher should kill.

Voice Mail:
00:48:09 – Darrel is back and he’s not happy with Mark Millar!

Music:
No One’s Gonna Love You
Band of Horses

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Comments

  1. Gabe Gabe says:

    I do not remember the last time I laughed as hard as i just did

  2. edward says:

    thanks for answering my question, boys,

     i have to wait until i get home to listen to the podcast…. i hope ypu were gentle

  3. LukusLuke LukusLuke says:

    PIck of the Month next week Ron?

  4. LukusLuke LukusLuke says:

    Darkness Calls is volume 8. I really miss Mignola’s art, ever since he stopped I just can’t get immursed in the book without it.

  5. SixGun SixGun says:

    Sweet Band of Horses! Ron, you and I were talking about how much we liked Band of Horses on Twitter simulateously, but you’re not following and we couldn’t commiserate.

     

    http://twitter.com/WilliamEslinger

  6. drakedangerz drakedangerz says:

    Listening right now guys.

    And yeah, that guy in The Walking Dead totally deserved it

  7. kwisdumb kwisdumb says:

    Listening right now, thanks!

  8. drakedangerz drakedangerz says:

    Great show guys.

    I am patiently waiting for iFanporn to start up…

    And when are the "members only" shirts shipping?  Can we get some "members only" jackets instead?

  9. The thing that some Hellboy fans might not know is that the second Library Edition hc reads in chronological order. This isn’t simply slapping vol. 3 & 4 of the trades together. These stories were not in chronological order when they were orginally collected. The gang involved with Hellboy did a great job putting the stories in their proper order for this hc. It almost felt like reading them for the first time.

  10. Ron Richards ron (@ronxo) says:

    @LukusLuke – Book of the Month is going live tonite and will be discussed on next week’s podcast

    @SixGun oh, I saw your tweet, don’t you worry about that ;)

    @drakedangerz – shirts should be shipping soon – we’ll be notifying everyone when they do…

  11. Bryan Brown is Mysterio!

    Josh on porn = best tangent ever!

    Seriously though. I heard on another podcast that the printing and paper costs don’t matter much in the overall pricing decisions, but I can see how exclusive creator contracts and marketing can drive the price up an extra dollar. I’d like to see over the long haul how this plays out in regards to indie comics. Will more people be drawn to pick up indie comiics they’ve heard about before because they might actually be cheaper per month or will they just bite the bullet and keep buying Spidey and Daredevil and JLA at 4 bucks a pop? Top Cow has the right idea in mind by advertising they’re staying at $2.99. Let readers know that their may be an alternative out there for them if they can’t take that hit for their Marvel or DC fix.

    Good show guys, despite the light week.

  12. Conor Kilpatrick conor (@cskilpatrick) says:

    @hawaiianpunch: I don’t know where the other show you heard got their information, but according to the publishers we have talked to paper cost is one of the biggest reasons for price increases.

  13. The prono starring the ifanboy’s….I think it would go something like this!

    Josh: Who could it be?

    Conor: Hi, I’m the delivery man and I got some cream for you

    Josh: Wow that sure looks heavy, you must be strong.

    Conor: I workout, So you want me to give you this cream now?

  14. drakedangerz drakedangerz says:

    @Conor-Chris Neseman talked extensivly about paper cost in the latest episode of 11 o’clock comics.  Because of his line of work he seems very knowledgable about paper prices and buying in bulk and said that the price difference in paper quality is not as much as what people think.

  15. Tork Tork says:

    I believe Frank Miller had a character drop the fact that Karen made "stag films" at the beginning of Born Again.

  16. Conor Kilpatrick conor (@cskilpatrick) says:

    @drakedangerz: "The price difference in paper quality sounds" like he was talking about the idea that it wouldn’t make comics that much cheaper to go to a lower paper quality.  Because paper prices are skyrocketing across the board.

  17. Awesome song choice. Band of Horses is a great band.

  18. drakedangerz drakedangerz says:

    @Conor-Yeah, sorry bout that.  I listened to it again and he is indeed making that point.

    I forgot to mention earlier, I also plan on picking up War of Kings.  Not so much the tie-ins.  Like Josh, playing it by ear.  I keep hearing great things about Guardians and Nova, so I might actually start picking those up.  Any good jump on points for those two that don’t require me picking up the past trades?

  19. BrianBaer BrianBaer says:

    "There are no porn character actors"? Wow. That has to be the funniest thing I’ve heard all year.

    Sure, we’re only about three weeks into this year, but just take the damn compliment.

  20. MrBeebs37 MrBeebs37 says:

    So I’ve got a comment I’ve wanted to make about this paper quality issue since it’s become a hot topic on all the comic podcasts lately.

    I’m the sort of reader that treats his comics like the disposable entertainment they are, which isn’t to say that I don’t keep them/re-read them/treasure them in my own way, but I certainly couldn’t care less about how glossy the paper is or how long they’ll last. The moment I walk out of the comic shop on Wednesdays, I roll my books up, shove them in my back pocket, and go to a local bar to environment, have light coming in from all over place and very often I cannot for the life of see what’s on the page because of the glare. It doesn’t matter how I hold the book, it’s usually impossible to read.

    Yes, it’s a stupid nitpick and I’m not under any illusion that a lot of people feel this way but I thought it might be an interesting 3rd option in the good paper/high prices vs. bad paper/low prices debate. Does fancy paper ruin anyone else’s reading experience? I literally groan every time a book I like comes out in that Ultimate line shiny format.

    On a related note, it was Chris Neisman on 11 O’clock Comics who brought up the paper isn’t the reason prices are going up argument. Obviously he was drunk and rambly, but his points did sound somewhat reasonable.

  21. I believe conor when he says the prices would’ve gone up no matter how much paper prices went up.

    But you guys can say you dont want 70′s-80′s type of paper in your comics…..But when the prices go to 4.99 or higher, you’ll want some excuse to get the prices back down again. I dont care about the paper quality to be honest; as long as the art and writing is as good as it is on paper I’ll buy a comic.

    What’s more disturbing about that porno scene I put up for conor and josh is that conor was dressed up as Batman for that scene…..Getting a bit too much insight for conor. :)

  22. ohcaroline ohcaroline says:

    I was also disappointed in the "Buffy" issue.  I thought it was a fun concept, but the story felt rushed, and the humor fell flat.  I was always a big fan of the Harmony character, but what I thought was great about her was that (despite being an amoral vampire) she was actually pretty sweet (when she wasn’t killing people).  This just portrayed her as a shallow bitch (which is what she was like in high school before she became a vampire, so it really destroyed the gag that made her character work).

  23. That was a hilarious show. good job guys:)

  24. Mart Mart says:

    MrBeebs37 is my hero. I’m also in favour of cheaper paper – generally. Yes, some comic artists are so good that their art demands better paper but most artists would look just fine on the paper used for the Johnny DC books.

    I passed over War of Kings, but you made it sound great. Downplaying the inclusion of the rubbish Vulcan helped, I suppose.

    Detective was indeed excellent, Paul and Dustin did the biz. Did you deliberately avoid mentioning the surprise guest star to let people have a surprise?

    I’m surprised that none of the Worriers Three have yet read Secret Six? Hey, we listen to your recommendations  . . . well, sometimes. Honest, try one issue and tell me it isn’t great.

    Why are we now underlined?

  25. MrBeebs37 MrBeebs37 says:

    By the way, in the middle of the 2nd paragraph of my post, there should be a bit about how I take my comics to the bar so I can drink/eat/read at the same time and the lighting there makes glossy comics nearly impossible to read. Apparently I decided to delete that part before posting, which admittedly, was a weird decision.

    re – Secret Six: Connor should try it out at the very least. I would think that a Batman fan would be curious about Bane as a pseudo good guy (with a weirdly sexual daddy/daughter relationship with Vandal Savage’s kid) as well as a clever play on the Batman/Catwoman relationship in the form of Catman and Huntress having a fling that Batman doesn’t approve of. Does that not sound like fun comicing? 

     

  26. Conor Kilpatrick conor (@cskilpatrick) says:

    @MrBeebs37: I’ve never really liked anything that Gail Simone has written and Bane is a product of a dark time in Bathistory, I don’t care for him.

  27. Garrett Garrett says:

    I think it’s a shame that the boys don’t read Secret Six (or Thor for that matter) as I’d like to hear their comments about these excellent books. I mean, I know they already read a big fat stack each week, but they’re missing out on some really good stuff!

    Ok, so here’s an idea for a podcast – "the books we didn’t read" where the boys read a stack of recommended books they usually ignore and report back on whether or not they enjoyed them. 

     

  28. chlop chlop says:

    Garrett – it was sort of done already… the manga video show, the totebag video show, the show about Sandman, and they sometimes mention that other people told them about the books they show in their videos.

    The recent gift giving post might yield something.

    And there have been video shows that show things they usually don’t talk about like the Mike Allred show, the indy vault, etc. 

  29. Josh Flanagan josh (@jaflanagan) says:

    @Garrett – I’ve read Thor, and I didn’t really love it, so I stopped reading it.  Search "Thor Report" and you’ll read my comments on the first 6.

  30. Conor Kilpatrick conor (@cskilpatrick) says:

    Or just click here.

  31. Josh Flanagan josh (@jaflanagan) says:

    When you go to Conor’s house, he doesn’t let you lift a finger.

  32. drakedangerz drakedangerz says:

    Best.  Host.  Ever.

  33. What’s up with Ron and his obsession with threesomes?  Was that in 90210 or something?

  34. Mart Mart says:

    But why are we underlined? :)

  35. Conor Kilpatrick conor (@cskilpatrick) says:

    @Mart: What are ou talking about?

  36. All the text in the comment section is bolded and underlined.

    Love the music choice this week, btw.

  37. Josh Flanagan josh (@jaflanagan) says:

    I just tried this page in 4 different browsers on my Mac and don’t see that.  What system/browsers are you on if you’re seeing the underlines?

  38. ohcaroline ohcaroline says:

    Explorer 6 shows the underlines.  Firefox doesn’t.

    Weird.

     

  39. Maybe it’s in bold and underline cause what we say is so serious and important.

     

     

    ………Poop

  40. I’m viewing from IE and it’s only underlined in this thread.

    Okay, I’m pulling this all from memory here, but from what I remember in the 80s is that one of the main reasons they upgraded from newsprint to what was called "Baxter paper" is because the newsprint got really expensive.  Increase in quality was a secondary concern.  So downgrading to that lower-grade paper may not make comics cheaper at all.  This may not be at all accurate, and maybe someone in the know can shed more light on the topic.

  41. chlop chlop says:

    Just draw on egg cartons and milk cartons. A breakfast with a cartoon.

  42. Comics on MS paint.

  43. Mart Mart says:

    @Conor I have the bold and underscore at home, with Vista, and work, with XP.

  44. Mart Mart says:

    Sorry, that should be Explorer, not Vista; Vista’s the operating system or something, isn’t it? I dunno, I failed Comic Book Science 101.

  45. chlop chlop says:

    It’s a tribute to old comics with their abundant use of exclamation points.

  46. rayclark rayclark says:

    haha ifanboy porn…….wow guys

  47. Handsaw says:

    still say enchantress would have been better to dupe wolverine.

  48. Josh Flanagan josh (@jaflanagan) says:

    I think part of the story there, and the humiliation of it was that it WAS Mysterio.  Enchantress is a goddess, so it’s understandable.  What makes the knife cut deeper?  That it was just a dude with some special effects?

  49. chlop chlop says:

    If only Wolverine had had acting experience – after all, he is alive for a lot of years, isn’t he? Missed opportunity…

  50. cman12 cman12 says:

    I like the Idea of Mysterio looking as ridiculous as he does and still maintaining I high level of badassness.

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