Heroes – S03E17 – Cold Wars


Volume Four: Fugitives

Tonight’s episode – Cold Wars

You know what I love?  A Horn Rimmed Glasses spotlight episode.  That’s what I love.

Tonight, Parkman tries to get into HRG’s head to try to figure out his true motivations.  Good luck, Parkman!

Last week’s episode was good, but probably the least strongest of the new volume.  Even still, Fugitives is on quite a roll so far.

As always, I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.

Comments

  1. JackBurton34 says:

    It would be funny to see HRG in a really embarassing memory like he used to be into disco or something. Then you can roll with all the darkness and evil crap.

  2. rayclark rayclark says:

    here we go everyone.

  3. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    This is going to be a great night.

     Yes, I am Miss Optimistic!

  4. rayclark rayclark says:

    @ReiMehari; i completely agree

  5. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I would like an entire episode of HRG bitterly drinking at a bar.  Scotch after angry scotch.

  6. cyberauron cyberauron says:

    i didnt watch last week. did daphne die last week

     

  7. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; agreed lol

    i wonder if that bartender had powers

  8. boutux boutux says:

    good night boys. sorry i’m late

     

  9. rayclark rayclark says:

    a watch?? trying to make amends

  10. rayclark rayclark says:

    i think he has his OWN agenda

  11. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @rayclark: The bartender looked pretty shocked.  She was definitely not in on the plan.  Which means she was pretty negligent if she didn’t call the cops after what she saw.

  12. rayclark rayclark says:

    wow matts intense about this. hes still upset about daphne i think

  13. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; yea agreed. did not see the expression on her face. shoulda called them.

  14. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @cyberauron: Daphne was shot full of holes.  I don’t remember if they said she died or not.  She is supposed to be in tonight’s episode, so maybe we’ll find out.

  15. rayclark rayclark says:

    i hope she isnt dead

  16. rayclark rayclark says:

    he doesnt trust bennet at all

  17. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    I’m hoping they’ll expand upon the backstoy of the hunter.

     What’s his name, again?

  18. boutux boutux says:

    i hope so too. i like the speedster. she was spunky

  19. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    @conor- full of holes? it’s only been two weeks but I thought she only took 2 hits and one was on the shoulder.

  20. rayclark rayclark says:

    the crazy soldier guy?? hes intense. matt is being pretty intense too.

  21. boutux boutux says:

    well that question was answered. daphne is dead. :’(

     

  22. rayclark rayclark says:

    i like seein these past scenes in black and white. makes it look more aweosme

  23. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    C’mon – who doesn’t know Asta?? :)

  24. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @psyguy411: That’s full of holes in my book.

  25. boutux boutux says:

    parkman can see memories? wow they are really expanding the boundaries of his telepathy. he’s no longer just a precog

  26. rayclark rayclark says:

    i still dotn think shes dead.

  27. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Black and white rocks.

  28. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    @conor- fair enough…dead would be dead. I just think of Scarface when I hear full of holes.

  29. rayclark rayclark says:

    wow matts just AMPED up his powers. and nathan is just weaving his little spider-web

  30. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    I’m ;ovon this BnW

  31. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    *I’m loving

  32. rayclark rayclark says:

    b&w totally rocks

  33. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    These two guys are the two best actors in the cast.  Good stuff.

  34. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    That’s… a lot of weapons and money.

  35. rayclark rayclark says:

    what a room. files on EVERYONE!! weapons everywhere!! he just got MORE badass in my eyes

  36. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor: agreed and lets not forget Asta

  37. piscespaul piscespaul says:

    I like the creepy music w/the b & w

  38. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    "There’s only so many crossword puzzles I can do."

  39. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    This reeks of a trap.

  40. rayclark rayclark says:

    im thinking HRG knew this was gonna happen so he cleared it out

  41. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    Oh, do I smell a good character episode and not just for HRG? I love these moments.

  42. piscespaul piscespaul says:

    Its a trap!

  43. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Wow, I thought for sure all the weapons and stuff would be gone.

  44. rayclark rayclark says:

    ITS A TRAP *said in Admiral Ackbar voice from ROTJ

  45. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Aaaand I’m right. A rare sight inded.

  46. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; i TOTALLY thought so too

  47. boutux boutux says:

    is hrg good or bad? i have a feeling we still wont know when this epi is done. that’s why he’s so bad ass.

  48. rayclark rayclark says:

    no sylar im tihnking….

  49. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    HRG is good if you are non-powered and Claire.

  50. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @boutux: I don’t think that’s an easily answered question.  I think he’s firmly in the gray.  He does what needs to be done to protect what he believes in and who he cares about, sometimes that makes him good and sometimes that makes him bad.

  51. rayclark rayclark says:

    peters gonna get captured…

  52. rayclark rayclark says:

    phasers on stun….EPIC

  53. rayclark rayclark says:

    HRG is a total mind screwer

  54. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    If Darth Vader was in charge of those soldiers, he’d force strangle all of them.

  55. boutux boutux says:

    damn i really wanted to see peter fight or use some super sick ability to kick some gov’t ass.

  56. rayclark rayclark says:

    matts freakin crazy!!!

  57. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    It’s good to see that Ed Danvers has made his way up the government ladder.

  58. rayclark rayclark says:

    wow asta’s freakin crazy and not trustworthy…i think he has a dark past

  59. boutux boutux says:

    maybe he’s turning into his father. the nightmare man part II

  60. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    And here we are.

     

    I’ll take what I can get.

  61. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Mohinder needs to start working different neighborhoods.

  62. rayclark rayclark says:

    WHOA mohinder!!

  63. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    So how the heck is Mohinder not freaky? 

     What changed? He was the Fly!

  64. rayclark rayclark says:

    HRG has his own angle….and whoa mohinder

  65. rayclark rayclark says:

    WHOA

  66. piscespaul piscespaul says:

    He’s a crafty one that HRG

  67. rayclark rayclark says:

    WOW

  68. gibbs254 gibbs254 says:

    hostage fail!!!

  69. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Hahaha – HRG is using his memories to fracture his captors’ group trust.

  70. boutux boutux says:

    matt has gone off the deep end. and now hrg has escaped.

  71. rayclark rayclark says:

    saw that one coming.

  72. boutux boutux says:

    i love to hate to love hrg. if that makes sense.

  73. rayclark rayclark says:

    HRG using memories as a weapon….whoa thats aweosme

  74. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    I wouldn’t say Matt is totally crazy he’s as pissed as any one of would be going through losing someone we love, but with powers.

  75. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Ah, I see it. On wiki (not the end all, be all resourc, mind you(

     "In "Dual", Mohinder tries to take the formula to stop his progressing mutations. He is thwarted by a combination of Daphne stealing the vial in his hand and Peter, Flint, and Knox destroying his lab at Pinehearst. In the process, however, they knock over a large vat of the formula, which Mohinder is exposed to, causing the lesions from the first flawed formula to disappear"

     

  76. rayclark rayclark says:

    did matt shout a curse word??

  77. rayclark rayclark says:

    peter to the rescue

  78. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Peter knows how to make an entrance.  Although I feel like, hand-to-hand, HRG slaps Peter down in under five seconds.

  79. rayclark rayclark says:

    mat is hilarious

  80. rayclark rayclark says:

    whoa…

  81. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Yes, more of this guy! Just like I wanted.

  82. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    The evil government loves their Dell.

  83. rayclark rayclark says:

    the soldier guy vs hrg in a mind game…whoa thats intense

  84. rayclark rayclark says:

    that was totally intense

  85. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    There isn’t a lot of planning with this group.

  86. boutux boutux says:

    he’s telling the truth

     

  87. rayclark rayclark says:

    WHOA!! ITS A TRAP!! Mohinder knew something was up

  88. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Perfect time for a commercial.

     

    I’m on the edge of my seat!

  89. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    Does this end with HRG having to save one or all of them?

  90. boutux boutux says:

    peter is gonna get caught

     

  91. rayclark rayclark says:

    hell yea peter

  92. piscespaul piscespaul says:

    Peter’s gonna get an ass whupping

  93. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    They have cameras everywhere!

  94. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Omeone in this room needs to be shot.

  95. rayclark rayclark says:

    the hunter is insane. i cant believe he shot him!!

  96. boutux boutux says:

    peter shot him. nice

  97. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Ask and ye shall recieve.

  98. rayclark rayclark says:

    that was intense

  99. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    God, I can’t spell tonight!

  100. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Yessss Daphne might be alive!

  101. rayclark rayclark says:

    KNEW she was alive!! i KNEW it!!

  102. zombox zombox says:

    Son of a bitch. She’s still alive.

     

  103. rayclark rayclark says:

    mohinder is kinda badass

  104. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Zombox, you’re upset about that?

  105. rayclark rayclark says:

    ultierior motive???

  106. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    @ Rayclark

     Yeah he kinda is.

    "Come on… all of you!"

  107. rayclark rayclark says:

    or just peter

  108. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    How can he grab Matt and not inherit the power?

  109. zombox zombox says:

    Oh yea. I cannot stand that character. I was really happy that the show was starting to narrow its focus of characters again.

    Allows them to tell a better story that doesn’t ramble.

  110. rayclark rayclark says:

    @psyguy411: i was wondering the EXACT same thing

  111. boutux boutux says:

    this epi has been awesome. one of the best this season.

  112. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    So happy that Daphne is still alive.

    @psyguy: Does it have to be skin to skin contact?  Or maybe he has learned to trigger it and can absorb powers only when he wants to?

  113. zombox zombox says:

    Maybe now that he’s had his power a while he’s learned to control the stealing effect?

  114. rayclark rayclark says:

    wow mohinder

  115. rayclark rayclark says:

    still dont like nathan at all

  116. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    "It wasn;t long ago you had me tied up."

     Good point

  117. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    Maybe he really is like Rogue and it has to be direct skin contact, but he didn’t do that this time.

  118. rayclark rayclark says:

    wow way to use mohinder nathan

  119. zombox zombox says:

    I struggle to see Mohinder as a bad ass. After two seasons of wishy, washy mumble stumble crap.

  120. rayclark rayclark says:

    did NOT see that coming.

  121. rayclark rayclark says:

    wait…

  122. rayclark rayclark says:

    ANGELA!! MOM come ON!!

  123. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    I didn;t see this coming.

    Everyone’s got it wrong.

  124. boutux boutux says:

    i have never really liked mohinder or nathan. but i hate tracy and i want her to die. i wish they didnt kill off niki/jessica.

  125. rayclark rayclark says:

    back to isaacs loft

  126. YoSoyJu YoSoyJu says:

    HRG is a good guy again! Hooray!

  127. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    @conor – didn’t refresh in tme to see you make the same suggestion. I’m also glad Daphne is back, she’s brought energy back to this show when it was struggling.

    This has been a good character episode, yes!

  128. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    "I’ve alway been comfortable with morally gray."

  129. Davetron3k says:

    whaaat?

  130. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    Oh….crap/

     

    (Love that music at the end)

  131. boutux boutux says:

    what is with the watch? matt blows up the world? 1st peter/sylar, then hiro and now matt. why does the world always end with a mushroom cloud?

  132. piscespaul piscespaul says:

    awesome episode…

  133. zombox zombox says:

    Meh… after a few good shows for this half of the season, I’m feeling a lack of focus beginning to set in again. Let’s hope it was just a brief slip.

  134. YoSoyJu YoSoyJu says:

    A Sylar free episode? I don’t like it.

  135. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @boutux: It’s an instantly recognizable symbol of mass destruction.

  136. boutux boutux says:

    totally awesome epi. loved it. thanx for the fun boys. nite nite.

  137. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    This was a really strong episode – great acting in this one.  I wouldn’t mind focusing on this group for a while.  I didn’t feel the loss of Sylar or Claire.

  138. ReiMehari ReiMehari says:

    @Zombax

    I don’t think it was a slip. They needed to explain why people were chasing them/how tings got to be that way.

  139. zombox zombox says:

    I don’t feel like they did. I felt pretty sure that Nathan put it together because he’s been talking about something similar for a whole season. The only thing this episode did was establish the desperation of Parkman and validated Noah’s ambiguity, which we already knew from his past. Nothing else changed.

  140. JackBurton34 says:

    @Conor I agree, I think Heroes works best when they focus on a smallish group of people during each episode. We dont need the entire cast each episode. HRG is the fucking man, kinda like Batman in the way he never stops thinking and planning.

  141. Tork Tork says:

    Anyone think Noah might be Rebel?

  142. So is Noah Bennett a Villian or Hero?

  143. Tork Tork says:

    He’s a hero but he’s comfortable with morally gray.

    And nevermind about Noah being Rebel.

  144. Ruo21 Ruo21 says:

    Amazing episode, exactly what I wanted from an HRG episode.

    Terrible, terrible ending. Getting really sick of the nuke angle. Especially Matt thinking that dynamite caused a nuclear explosion.

  145. dopeshow730 says:

    Very cool episode. I like the twist at the end, and can’t wait to see how Noah is going to handle balancing between right and wrong the next couple episodes. It’s just too bad Sylar wasn’t in it. I hope they give him more screen time next episode to make up for it. For those of you who missed it, you can check it out online at this link here…

    http://watchheroesstreaming.com/season-3-episode-17-cold-wars/

  146. UncleBob UncleBob says:

    I really enjoyed this episode and I really haven’t enjoyed the series at all.  I hate to say it and know it is becoming a troublesome trend, but darker is better.

  147. Ruo21 Ruo21 says:

    @Conor- Even though a nuke is an instantly recognizable symbol it is becoming very unoriginal. I would rather see a pile of corpses, a crumbling city, or a population sign that said "Welcome to New York. Population: 212." Something new.

  148. yamiangie yamiangie says:

    stoped watching after peter grabed Matt.  So another exlpostion lame.  I  don’t think I’ll watch next week.

  149. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Ruo21: I like the thematic reoccurance of the nuclear explosion.

  150. OddsBodkins OddsBodkins says:

    So… Parkman can make those guys all shoot themselves at the plane crash but not here?

  151. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @OddsBodkins: I’m not sure how many people Parkman wants to cause the death of.  The plane crash was a situation of intense stress and danger.

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