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1. TheNextChampion says:

   October 30, 2008 at 9:28 am

   Great review Race, agree with you on all fronts.

   I also want to add for the people who love BND and state that the reason that retcon had to occur cause there was no stories for MJ and Peter anymore: Look at this series. Eight long and great years of USM with a love life of MJ/Peter for the ‘spine’ of the storylines. Yes I know we had the whole Kitty Pride angle for some issues: But MJ was still a big factor in those stories too!

   So the thought that the stories of MJ and Peter in a relationship cant be told anymore in 616 continuity is just a uber-lazy idea.

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2. RaceMcCloud says:

   October 30, 2008 at 1:09 pm

   I’ll add to that, I think JMS was doing the best work with the Peter/MJ relationship that had ever been done, at least since their forced/shotgun wedding.  I’d be willing to be that’s one of the reasons he was so annoyed by "One More Day".  He had spent so much time and creative energy on building up this relationship into something real and strong, and then editorial decided to blink it out of existence.  Although I suppose the official line is that those stories "still happened", it’s just the mass perception of reality that changed.  I don’t know.  

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3. TheNextChampion says:

   October 30, 2008 at 1:44 pm

   Well whatever the case is with OMD and perception of reality is in that comic. The fact is to me that USM still is the better Spider-Man title only because Bendis isnt retconning his work to make more interesting stories. I guess the BND supporters could say that that the Ultimate version is just rehashing stories or reworking them so they arent that original. But some of these stories are still more entertaining then Peter being a lonely single guy with barely a job.

   But when you read stuff like the last two ASM issues and they have practically nothing to do with BND or OMD, they are some of the most entertaining issues I’ve read. Maybe they should just write issues instead of focusing on Parker’s new life?

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4. Conor Kilpatrick (@cskilpatrick) says:

   October 30, 2008 at 7:30 pm

   One More Day wasn’t about the relationship, it was about the marriage.

   Two completely different things.

   I need a macro.

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5. TheNextChampion says:

   October 30, 2008 at 8:44 pm

   @conor: Then why isnt MJ even part of this BND? I mean they could still be dating like they are in USM. I know she was in that Paperdoll arc but I mean like she is a permant main character.

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6. RaceMcCloud says:

   October 30, 2008 at 11:09 pm

   USM is clearly the better Spidey title, even with BND being successful.  And I think BND will only be completely successful if they go BACK to OMD and Mephisto.  That needs to have repercussions.

   And I understand why they undid the marriage, but I think JMS proved that Peter beind married to MJ was not a problem in telling good stories.  He really got a lot of mileage out of their marriage and relationship.  Other stuff he did, not so successful.  But he used the marriage as well as anyone.  They had a really interesting relationship in his books.  And hey!  If readers want single, young Peter, there’s USM right there.  It was the best of both words.

   That having been said, BND has been good, and more people are happy with ASM now than they’ve been in a long time, so what do I know? 

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