Wow, what a crappy comment after the image, “no one read the book.” Seeing as Stan and Jack were long off the book before sales waivered enough to stop publishing, it’s not even accurate either.
‘And no one read the book when you had it, either.’
Yup, no respect! This is a bit of a cheap comment, given how much later creators built on Stan and Jack’s work.
I wouldn’t bother mentioning this normally, but as Marvel’s titling is so inconsistent … the book wasn’t titled ‘Uncanny’ X-Men until a good while later, after using the adjective on the cover for a couple of years. This issue was ‘All-New, All Different’, but officially, simply ‘X-Men’.
The comment clearly doesn’t really play as satire, More like snark for snarks sake. Not that I am a stanger to that, being an anonymous commentor on the internet and all.
Still it was strange seeing such a remark directed at Jack Kirby from a Comics website.
It’s all good though.
“Satire is primarily a literary genre or form, although in practice it can also be found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon.”
Hey, thanks for taking the submit! Silly bickering aside,I was hoping people would just get a kick out of Jack and Stan gawking at the Jean/Cyclops PDA.
I love when they would throw Stan and Jack, or even other members of the Bullpen into an issue back in the day. It was part of what made Marvel seem to stand out, it felt more real. I dig the panel, and maybe it’s that love for these old moments that peeved be with the initial statement/joke/whatever.
“The title lagged in sales behind Marvel’s other comic franchises. In 1969, writer Roy Thomas and illustrator Neal Adams rejuvenated the comic book and gave regular roles to two recently introduced characters: Havok/Alex Summers (who had been introduced by Roy Thomas before Adams began work on the comic) and Lorna Dane, later called Polaris (created by Arnold Drake and Jim Steranko). However, these later X-Men issues failed to attract sales and Marvel stopped producing new stories with issue #66, later reprinting a number of the older comics as issues #67–93.[7]”
Apparently you can’t post a funny moment from a old comic with a hillarious tag on it with out causing the internet to get out their pitchforks and demand your head Josh. I for one thought it was funny.
I was filled with joy about this panel and was going to comment. I remember seeing the book year ago, i think in Classic Xmen. I skipped along to leave a comment about it and then all this crud was whipped up. Took the sheen off my happy fuzzy feeling. Over reaction is a river in Eqypt.
Also there was a video podcast that covered the reprints in full, we are up to date non?
@AceBathound: Agreed. It’s one of those days where you just leave the internet alone, don’t ask it any questions, and maybe try to spend as much time out in the garage or in your back yard as possible.
Among the things actually noteworthy about the panels:
1). Stan Lee is wearing a smoking jacket and an ascot.
2). Jack’s wearing a green trench coat.
3). Jack calls him Stan, but he looks more like Clarke Gable than himself. Stan must have still had some pull at Marvel.
4). BRIGHT GREEN TRENCHER
1. There are 3 guys who not only love the stories in comics, the art, even the lettering, but they also love the way comics are made and the HISTORY of the industry. There is no better testimony to their love and respect (maybe reverence) but this website. Heck yeah they get paid now, but for years they were doing this as a “side-job/hobby”. and they still provide it to us for free.
2. “iFanboy”. take a funny, slightly insulting term, tweak it and plaster it prominently and display it proudly. The guys have a sense of humor. (ps: i remember hearing the 3 iFanboys regret their choice in naming the website for whatever reason–i dig it. it’s geeky but it works)
3. to the few of you offended by the “editorial” caption attached to the cartoon, welcome to iFanboy. stay a while. read the articles, listen to the podcasts. Josh, Conor & Ron are great fans of comic books and great advocates of the medium. they can be critical sometimes but never disrespectful. dig up any old video podcast from their archives when they interview Stan Lee and you’ll see that Stan likes them and they love Stan. every once in a while there’s an audio podcast review of a comic where the art style harkens back to Kirby and they give Jack the accolades he deserves while comparing the new art to his.
4. Maybe it’s the weather that’s got everyone so hot and bothered!
When I first read this (in a “classic” x-men reprint) I couldn’t believe that they showed Stan Lee without his glasses! I guess they had yet to become “iconic” for him.
Wow, what a crappy comment after the image, “no one read the book.” Seeing as Stan and Jack were long off the book before sales waivered enough to stop publishing, it’s not even accurate either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire
Well played, Josh. Well played. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinger
http://bit.ly/z2uPSe
Oooh, can I make coy non-answers too?
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
‘And no one read the book when you had it, either.’
Yup, no respect! This is a bit of a cheap comment, given how much later creators built on Stan and Jack’s work.
I wouldn’t bother mentioning this normally, but as Marvel’s titling is so inconsistent … the book wasn’t titled ‘Uncanny’ X-Men until a good while later, after using the adjective on the cover for a couple of years. This issue was ‘All-New, All Different’, but officially, simply ‘X-Men’.
Anyway, nice to see this moment again.
Wow, the feature has been derailed by pedantry and over reaction – and so early too.
I think the point of this feature is to enjoy a funny moment from comics history. We should all try to do that and not give Josh a hard time.
Come on ifanbase, chill out.
The comment clearly doesn’t really play as satire, More like snark for snarks sake. Not that I am a stanger to that, being an anonymous commentor on the internet and all.
Still it was strange seeing such a remark directed at Jack Kirby from a Comics website.
It’s all good though.
Big Lug. That made me laugh.
I’ve just added Big Lug to my everyday vocabulary.
File alongside ‘Holy smokes’.
“Satire is primarily a literary genre or form, although in practice it can also be found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon.”
So you’re shaming Jack Kirby to improve himself?
Hey, thanks for taking the submit! Silly bickering aside,I was hoping people would just get a kick out of Jack and Stan gawking at the Jean/Cyclops PDA.
Totally did.
I love when they would throw Stan and Jack, or even other members of the Bullpen into an issue back in the day. It was part of what made Marvel seem to stand out, it felt more real. I dig the panel, and maybe it’s that love for these old moments that peeved be with the initial statement/joke/whatever.
Yeah, it was fun. I notice Marjorie Liu, Mike Perkins and pals at Northstar’s wedding – no dialogue, sadly!
It was a really great panel. Thanks!
This was a great panel to share, I always liked it when Stan and Jack showed up in the books, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen this one before.
“The title lagged in sales behind Marvel’s other comic franchises. In 1969, writer Roy Thomas and illustrator Neal Adams rejuvenated the comic book and gave regular roles to two recently introduced characters: Havok/Alex Summers (who had been introduced by Roy Thomas before Adams began work on the comic) and Lorna Dane, later called Polaris (created by Arnold Drake and Jim Steranko). However, these later X-Men issues failed to attract sales and Marvel stopped producing new stories with issue #66, later reprinting a number of the older comics as issues #67–93.[7]”
FACTS!
You can copy and paste from Wiki…..FACT!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men#1960s
Also I don’t know what your copy and paste proves. It sold poorly under Thomas/Adams and under Lee/Kirby.
This is ridiculous.
Apparently you can’t post a funny moment from a old comic with a hillarious tag on it with out causing the internet to get out their pitchforks and demand your head Josh. I for one thought it was funny.
If you can find someone with more respect for Jack Kirby than me, I’d like to meet them and give them an uncomfortable hug.
I’m with Josh on this one.
I was filled with joy about this panel and was going to comment. I remember seeing the book year ago, i think in Classic Xmen. I skipped along to leave a comment about it and then all this crud was whipped up. Took the sheen off my happy fuzzy feeling. Over reaction is a river in Eqypt.
Also there was a video podcast that covered the reprints in full, we are up to date non?
Great panel. thanks for the memories.
The internet sure is in a mood today.
@AceBathound: Agreed. It’s one of those days where you just leave the internet alone, don’t ask it any questions, and maybe try to spend as much time out in the garage or in your back yard as possible.
I laughed, and then I got on with my day. I am the 1%.
I laughed as well. This was a Daniel Tosh-like comment – clever, but without his usual malice.
I love that Stan and Jack are *both* smoking. And that they’re both dapper as Hell.
Jack lived for a long time for guy who was as attached to his cigars as he was.
Among the things actually noteworthy about the panels:
1). Stan Lee is wearing a smoking jacket and an ascot.
2). Jack’s wearing a green trench coat.
3). Jack calls him Stan, but he looks more like Clarke Gable than himself. Stan must have still had some pull at Marvel.
4). BRIGHT GREEN TRENCHER
I’m pretty sure that neither Kirby nor Lee were offended.
I read this pretty recently, hell yeah Claremont run.
This is awesome. Are Jack and Stan just passing through the mansion? Are they on a tour? Judging by Stan’s attire, he’s in the wrong mansion.
If memory serves, the gang were in Times Square on New Years Eve, waiting for the ball to drop.
Or is that the FF issue drawn by Ramon Fradon that featured Thundra?
Errrr
It was Christmas. Scott & Jean had just walked into Rockefeller Plaza for dinner.
Stan Lee is wearing an ascot. He is everything that I want to be.
I’ve no comment left. You guys said it all.
They later used Stan’s outfit for the Wonder Man costume during most of the 1980s.
1. There are 3 guys who not only love the stories in comics, the art, even the lettering, but they also love the way comics are made and the HISTORY of the industry. There is no better testimony to their love and respect (maybe reverence) but this website. Heck yeah they get paid now, but for years they were doing this as a “side-job/hobby”. and they still provide it to us for free.
2. “iFanboy”. take a funny, slightly insulting term, tweak it and plaster it prominently and display it proudly. The guys have a sense of humor. (ps: i remember hearing the 3 iFanboys regret their choice in naming the website for whatever reason–i dig it. it’s geeky but it works)
3. to the few of you offended by the “editorial” caption attached to the cartoon, welcome to iFanboy. stay a while. read the articles, listen to the podcasts. Josh, Conor & Ron are great fans of comic books and great advocates of the medium. they can be critical sometimes but never disrespectful. dig up any old video podcast from their archives when they interview Stan Lee and you’ll see that Stan likes them and they love Stan. every once in a while there’s an audio podcast review of a comic where the art style harkens back to Kirby and they give Jack the accolades he deserves while comparing the new art to his.
4. Maybe it’s the weather that’s got everyone so hot and bothered!
When I first read this (in a “classic” x-men reprint) I couldn’t believe that they showed Stan Lee without his glasses! I guess they had yet to become “iconic” for him.
If you read old marvel comics his stan’s soapbox illustrations didn’t really have the glasses until later on.
I didn’t even recognize them until I saw Conor’s “joke”.
Stan Lee looks more like Tony Stark than himself.
No, that’s exactly what Stan looked like.
@josh: I’m used to seeing Lee look like what he does now….or from the last 15+ years.
That’s excellent! Not sure what all the bitchiness is about though