Alan Moore Comments on ‘Watchmen’ Film

The LA Times blog got on the phone with my hero, Alan Moore, to talk about his view on the upcoming adaptation of his classic work, Watchmen. He’s not really all that into it.

“And I can tell you that I will also be spitting venom all over it for months to come.”

Aw, he’s so sweet!

Actually, I was really pleased with the tone of the article, and the writer, Geoff Boucher, makes sure to mention that while the words make Moore seem one way, he’s generally an affable guy without the aforementioned venom in his voice, which if you’ve ever heard Moore speak, is because he normally sounds quite cheerful, even if he doesn’t look like he would.

Moore, of course, isn’t one to make compromises when it comes to his work, wants nothing to do with the movie, because he suggests, quite rightly, that the book is unfilmable. The difference between him, and most fans is that they just want to see something. Moore, understandably, put a lot of effort and time and thought into making this comic book, and since he doesn’t own it, he can’t do a damn thing about what happens to it.

They also go on to talk about Moore’s upcoming gigantic novel, Jerusalem, a book I’m terrified of, and it hasn’t even been published yet.

 

Comments

  1. I really would love to force Moore to watch the Watchemen ala A Clockwork Orange.  I’d love to see the look on his face.  I mean, Snyder obviously loves the book.  Would it be that hard to show a little respect?

  2. @ultimatehoration – I would imagine that Moore’s point of view is that he is’t being shown any respect, so why should he respect a slap in the face?

  3. @Conor – Well, I’m speaking directly about Snyder.  Part of the reason Snyder is doing it is because he doesn’t want anyone else to destroy it.  Yes, he’s part of the Hollywood system, but there’s no reason to act that way toward someone who’s trying to do your work justice.  Agree to disagree, at the very least.  The venom’s not necessary, and, to use a term from V for Vendetta, comes off like "bitter almonds".  Alan Moore, if you really feel that way, don’t say anything at all.  Don’t do interviews.  Just work on that… book.

  4. Based on the previous adaptations of his work, why should Moore have any optimism? And let’s be honest, we all might be very excited about this, but it’s only based on a trailer so far.

    Why are comics fans so obsessed with seeing our beloved characters in moving form anyway? 

  5. Paul Montgomery (@fuzzytypewriter) says:

    @ultimatehoratio – It’s his work, so he has every right to voice a negative opinion about it.  More right than anyone here can claim.  Snyder’s intentions don’t really matter to Moore.  Who are you to say they should?  

  6. Patio said it best; with terrible adaptations so far there is every reason and right for Moore to get upset about this. From Hell, LXG, and V for Vendetta all got butchered and lost all meaning to what Moore intended when he wrote those books. Not only that but overall they have been terribly acted and just down right terrible.

    But I believe in Synder and I believe that he really wants to make this film work. Unlike the other directors of previous Moore’s work, Synder choose to do this film and wanted to adapt this almost page for page of the book. Of course the WB doesnt want that Pirate and Under the Hood storyline added so thanks to the film company, the film is butchered. But I’ve seen production shots, behind the scenes footage, and as of right now Synder has got the tone of the book down for the film. I’m just worried how much he had to change because again, WB decided to get rid of some of the B-stories from the book. Listen we’re all worried about this film, and like internet people talking on a forum…we’re all going to judge it before it comes out.

    As of right now this is the most excited comic book film I’ve been waiting for….even more then Dark Knight! Also, since I loved his remake of Dawn of the Dead and a great adaptation of 300….The odds of this being good are high in my book.

  7. I just wish that old hermit would just at least look at the trailer. Yes Alan we get it DC shit in your corn flakes, but its not as if Bret fuckin Ratner is taking a go at your comic its a team of people in love with your work and are doing their best to make it work for the screen

    I get the feeling moore seems to think its a film made by suits instead of a film made by fans. 

    The film may turn out to be a shit heap but from people who have seen footage its lookign amazing from word of mouth.

    Just wish more would bite the bullet and say fuck me this really does look faithful! 

  8. @figthclubber – Moore doesn’t care who makes the film.  It’s irrelevant that a big fan is making it.

  9. He just doesn’t want to take away from Watchmen Babies in V for Vacation.

  10. At least he’s consistantly the grumpiest guy in comics…

  11.  Too much gets made of the fact that he doesn’t want anything to do with the film adaptations. What Alan Moore wanted was for the Watchmen to be a comic, that’s why he wrote as such and to him that’s what it always should be…I admire his dividing the whatever his share of the film rights are amongst the various other folks who had a hand in helping him produce the comics (he does do that, right?)  

     Lucky for us, there are people (and in case of Watchmen, who apparently care very deeply for the source material) out there who want to see what it would look like thrown on the big screen. 

     

    SIDE QUESTION: Who would play Alan Moore in the screen adaptation of his life story?  

  12. Oh please, nothing is unfilmable. They filmed Lord of the Rings just fine and they said that was unfilmable.

  13. SQ: Johnny Depp, channeling Nick Nolte

  14. Have any of you order the Moore documentary mentioned in the article? It looks really interesting, but I’d love to hear someone else’s opinion before purchasing.

  15. It should be fair to note that I remember a Wizard article where Moore said that it’s not so much that he’s flying into a frothy rage because they’re making movies out of his stories but that he just wants to separate himself from the projects and for people to know he isn’t connected to them in any real way.  He isn’t really huddling around some cauldron in his house in England calling for a pox upon Zack Snyder.  He’s just joking around, I think, and just doesn’t care about if they make a film or not.

    To me, that makes sense because, let’s be honest, if Alan Moore was crying literary rape because people were taking his characters, plots, settings and putting them out in ways never intended by the original author, with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Lost Girls out, he’d be kind of a hypocrite.

  16. Naked Lunch is unfilmable and look how that tur…

    nevermind.

  17. Who cares what he wants? It’s over rated and if alan moore had his way he would film himself andy kaufman style reading the Watchmen in different voices.

    And lord of the rings had to be shrunken down a bit (like the moria mines scene and design – they didn’t film the description in the book word for word since it’s very difficult – I actually read that book and it was tough so it’s okay)

    Alan Moore turned to the comic book guy from the simpsons…

  18. @chlop  What’s overrated?  Watchmen?  But if you say so…

  19. Yeah, who cares what he wants? Who does he think he is? The author??

  20. yap. Over rated comic book. panalologists.com episode 50 from 30:00 minutes there is a Watchmen review which is mostly what I thought about watchmen but a bit harsher (to me it’s a 6 out 0f 10 without considering hype)

    How can you film something that shows a comic book about a pirate while the main dialog isn’t shown (the people talking). how can you film something that has scraps of paper at each chapter? you can’t be truthful – you can choose one idea from the comic (which is littered with too many ideas) and go from there – that will probably be the murder mistery.

    Alan Moore is annoying. Even the holy grail of books which is Lord of the Rings could use a trim here and there and a bold editor (if people want the mythology of that place there are all the other books of his that got published which are a mess…except for the hobbit)

  21. @ SixGun Here’s a link to a review of the DVD: 

    http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/16460/1/DVD-REVIEW-MINDSCAPE-OF-ALAN-MOORE-THE/Page1.html 

    You can also find clips from BBC4’s Comics Britannia series, wherein he discusses V for Vendetta, Lost Girls etc.  

  22. @deadspace – the comic book will always be there and unlike books, the image you had in your had of the look of the characters etc. won’t go away which movies did that to books I like.

    It won’t go away if a bad movie or an action movie is made based on it.  LXG is crap but it didn’t effect the comic book series…

    He should relax and concentrate on making good comics.

  23. @chlop As I understand it he doesn’t want anything and couldn’t care less.

  24. I do agree with Moore in that comics and movies (and even novels) are not interchangable, each is its own animal.  He’s not interested in seeing a derivation on his work, his ideology, to him, is only valid when communicated in the comic form; I wish he would see the movie (even if it’s based on morbid curiosity), but I understand why he wouldn’t.  It is and will be a completely different beast.  I am sure he and I would agree that "The Wire" wouldn’t ever be translatable into comic/novel form.

    I also find that as mediums differ so, many brilliant comic writers when crossing over, put out mediocre novels and screenplays (Gaimain, Robinson);  I definitely like (not love) Jeph Loeb’s TV work over his comics anyday.

  25. @chlop – you realise that review of the watchmen you linked to was a piss-take, right?

  26. I just wish I could grow a beard like his…it’s very wizard like.

  27. BTW, Where and what episode is the picture above (I assume from the Simpsons) taken from.  And what was the context.  Just curious

  28. Every fan wants his idols to like him or at least like the things he likes.  It’s natural.  But Lord of the Rings and Watchmen were adapted to film.   The stories and characters are changed to fit the film medium.  Much is lost, always.  Sometimes films are more enjoyable than their source material.  Doesn’t matter.  The point is they’re changed.

    Most authors who have books adapted to film get that.  They’ll go to the premiere, eat the free food and have an opinion good or bad.  Most play the game and move on.  Alan Moore takes the stance that he and Dave Gibbons created a work of art for a specific medium.   He’d like people to experience it as a comic.

     Guillermo del Toro is a huge Hellboy fan but his movies are completely different than the comics.  Favereau is an Iron Man fan.  He distilled decades of stories into a film that was a lot of fun but not a strict adaptation of any specific storyline.

     

     

  29. @jing7wei – Ranting about it means to me he cares. If DC suddenly solicits Watchmen 2: Revenge of Rorschach he can rant all he wants. We get it – he doesn’t like it – no need to drill it into our heads.

    It’s a movie – he can ignore it. And it might seem like an advertisement but alan moore can be a kitten but he seems to me like Q!PAW episode 48 from 3:55. He just really annoys me.

    @deadspace – yes it was a bit of taking a piss since that guy didn’t like it that much, but as I said it’s harsher than my thoughts on it, but the quiz part is right and the long winding part is right and the part about it being mostly boring is correct – my thought about it are a bit different, but Q!PAW is a podcast that laughes at comic books and things related to that…

    When a book is slowly building and at the end there are a few pages of text it’s annoying and breaks the flow of the comics. When you can guess what will happen in the next few pages and in the next few chapters, it’s not that fun reading it – I didn’t know – I guessed and chose the most likely guess and mostly I was right.

    When someone calls superheroes vigilanties but doesn’t keep them human (not counting the Dr.) it’s a bit of a piss taking.

    Alan Moore tries to incorparate many things and that means they are not done very well – there is a murder mistery which starts the comic,  it jumps to the history of the two teams but ends it abruptly to jump back to the mistery and then there’s a bit about the psychie of vigilanties and it’s all on top of each other and not done very well. He tryes to look at super heroes and try to speculate what motivates them but it gets cut off for another idea.

    Anyway – that’s not the point. the point is Alan Moore is understood – he made himself clear and now he needs to relax and let us be.

  30. @Uncle Bob– It’s from Husbands and Knives, an episode from last year where a new comic store is set up adjacent to Comic Book Guy’s.  Alan Moore, Dan Clowes, and Art Spiegalman show up for a signing and Comic Book Guy comes to sabotage the store before Art, Alan, and Dan rip off their shirts, revealing their pecs and chase him out of the store.

  31. Mindscape is quite good, but it’s also easy to find on YouTube. While you’re there, look up Monsters, Maniacs, and Moore, which is a great 80s era documentary on him where he talks a lot about Watchmen while it’s still fresh in his head. There’s some great Miracleman material in there as well for those interested.

  32. @PaulMontgomery – If he wants to act like a diva, that’s certainly within his rights.  You don’t hear the estates of the writers who’s work he cribbed for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen pissing and moaning.

  33. @ultimatehoratio – If the writers were alive they might.  There’s no way to know.

  34. @chlop Do you think Moore called the LA Times and was like, "I need to get this off my chest."  What’s funny is that we haven’t heard a thing from him until now on this project.  I imagine he gets asked several times a day to make a statement on this, and finally, he said, "OK, here’s what I think."

    Also, you say this: "Alan Moore tries to incorparate many things and that means they are not done very well" as if it was fact, and it’s important to note that this is your opinion.  Your opinion of Moore’s failings are not objective truth.

  35. Betcha  a Legends of the DK #1 orange cover variant that somewhere out there Moore is sitting in a dark room in some creepy looking chair, bowl fulla pipeweed and orange cheetos fingers while watching V 4 Vendetta, League of Ext. Gentlemen, a bootleg Watchmen and the first season of Perfect Strangers…….And he’s thinkin’….."Not bad…….Not bad at all…….Especially that Balki fellow"…….

    And then he goes back to ghost writing All Star Batman and Robin……..

  36. @Chlop

    Yeah I’m not Moore’s biggest fan but claiming his writing is unsuccesful because he tries to incorparate a lot of ideas is ridiculous.  If there’s one thing I respect about him its the meticulous planning and structuring of each of his stories.  I really think that you picked the wrong thing to nitpic.

  37. I think I should just reiterate that I’m pretty sure that Alan Moore is just being hyperbolic about his disdain for his stories being movies.  I remember him saying they can do whatever the heck they want with the movies as long his name isn’t being connected to them.  I’m pretty sure he even quoted Stephen King over Stephen’s take on movie adaptions (which is a very healthy take I think)  So, unless he’s gotten more bitter after the Wachowskis’ V for Vendetta, I think he’s halfway kidding around about the spewing venom and the other comments.

  38. Curious on the film:  Isn’t the Night Owl character suppose to be noticably overweight?

  39. To me, everything Moore has written is pure gold except 1963 and The Black Dossier.  It’s too bad he can’t find a way to get along with any company he’s ever worked with.  It’s the anarchist in him I guess. 

    @Tork – I’m bitter about V for Vendetta as well.  Asthetically, it was so cheesy!

  40. I thought the V for Vendetta movie was better than the comic, personally.

     

  41. Watchmen?

    That’s a funny name!
    I’d have called it Chazwaza!

  42. I’m cautiously optimistic.  The trailer gave me chills and there are several descriptions of recently screened footage that sound like this could be something special.  I think now begins the process of seperating the movie from the book.  If anything, I’m glad Snyder isn’t just cutting and pasting Dave Gibbons panels. 

    Alan Moore will hate it no matter what, but it doesn’t matter.  I now see people reading "Watchmen" every time I go on the subway and that’s what counts.  

  43. I want to believe it will be good.  We’ll see.  That being said, I have not liked any of the movies that have been translations of his books.  As much as my friends liked V for Vendetta, I literally fell asleep watching it.

     That being said, I am also glad that more people are reading Watchmen now, even those that I can’t get to pick up any other comics.  I hope someone asks him how he feels about his masterpiece reaching more people BECAUSE of this movie.  

  44. So it really was Alan Moore as himself in that Simpsons voice?  man, Groening got mad skills to get him to come on his show.

  45. I don’t think I respect a creator more than I do Alan Moore for standing up for himself. Obviously he’s a bit of an extremist, but whatever works for him. I think he’s painted as a bit more of an antagonist (not necessarily in this article) than he is.

  46. As much as I agree with Mr. Moore I can’t help but be excited for this.  I remember when the trailer broke online and I watched I was honestly a little dubious.  THEN, it was the next day when THE DARK KNIGHT was just being released and I got the see the WATCHMEN trailer on IMAX and I couldn’t help but pee a little.  I can’t wait.

  47. @ conor, when you say moore doesn’t care who makes it, that’s not true. i bet if the guys who do the wire were attached to the movie, he’d think twice.

    he’s actually given an interview where he talked about why he dislikes snyder. essentially, snyder included the allegedly sexist and homophobic stuff that people saw in the 300 book. and moore thinks less of snyder for not changing that stuff.

    and i back his choice to do or say whatever he wants about this movie.

  48. Just curious. What is Jerusalem about? The title is pretty daunting.

  49. Thank goodness there is a creator who doesn’t sacrifice his soul for the Hollywood dollar.

  50. I agree with Alan Moore — Watchmen is unfilmable (he would know).

    Yeah, the trailer is good, very good, but how many awesome trailers have you seen that turn out to be crappo movies?

    But I guess whether the movie is good or not is irrelevant, the point is Alan Moore gets no say in a movie based on something he created & will get none of the millions of dollars it will gross.

  51. Moore isn’t trying to get the movie unmade or anything. He is merely trying to disassociate his name with the thing as he had nothing to do with it. Which is accurate.

    I would rather this than comic creators who whore themselves out to the movie studios – I don’t want to sounds to critical here but Kick-ass getting a movie deal after one issue? That doesn’t feel respectful to the medium. It’s like saying "well….your comic is all fine and good, but we could make it better by making it move with real people."

    But ultimately the medium stands up by itself, and Watchmen is a strong example of sequential art storytelling that proves this. The story and art are all fine and good, but it is the juxtaposition of text and art that conveys the messages and tone of the book – this is something that cannot be accurately emulated on the screen I feel.

     That’s not to say I expect it to be bad, I just expect it to be different. If it’s a good movie in it’s own right, then fine. But if that’s the case, then it’s not Alan Moore’s Watchmen.

     That Simpsons episode was so out of character for Moore, but apparantly he’s a big fan, so fair play to him. It was the first new episode I’d watched in years, and the bit with him in the comic book store was very funny.

    @UncleBob – I wouldn’t say that Night Owl needs to be "noticably overweight" as that implies some kind of obesity, but I saw him as very middle aged and certainly no longer at the peak of his physique. Seems the movie is going in a different direction.

  52. I’m with chlop, the QPAW podcast 50 is well worth a listen – as well as the Watchmen review (I don’t think it’s a pisstake, it’s one reader’s opinion, made all the funnier by his knowing delivery), it has a great ‘at home with Alan Moore’ sequence and ‘Mr and Mrs Stan Lee go shopping’.

     http://panelologists.com/

    As for Watchmen, I’m glad the pirate stuff is out of the film; didn’t Len Wein recently admit that it was basically padding, added when Alan Moore realise how may pages he had to fill? Sure, it’s clever padding, and making a point, but my gosh, it went on, and on . . . I enjoyed Watchmen well enough when it first appeared, but I never found it enjoyable enough to go back to. 

  53. Does anyone else think Alan Moore thinks to get over himself? He’s hardly the first author to have his works changed (and not for the better), for a movie adaptation. And it’s just that: an ADAPTATION. Movies are a very different medium than comics, and things that work in a comic don’t necessarily work in a movie. The credits will say "Based on Watchmen" which is exactly what it is. BASED on it. Plenty of witers, with a far greater following than Alan Moore, have had their works totally transformed on screen. He’s making himself a martyr to try to keep his image, I think. If he doesn’t want to cash the check and give it Dave Gibbons, that’s fine. But when he didn’t take any money for the movie, he lost the right to say anything about it. he’s not involved, and he’s judging the movie before it’s even been made. How do you think Moore would react if people passed judgement on his latest written work before he even put paper in the typewriter?

  54. I just saw the watchmen book at target

  55. @josh – yes. it’s my opinion and I wrote there that it’s my opinion. I doubt he calls people to get interviews but there seems to be too many interviews with him going at length about the movie and to me it sounds like whining.

    He can write some press release and get it over with, saying he is not happy with the adaptation and deny interviews or skip the Watchmen questions.

    @Anson17 – it’s not bad because he tries to incorporate alot of plots and ideas, it’s bad because he doesn’t succeed joining them in a good manner and to me they seem to run over each other and eventually not accomplishing much.

    It seems to me Alan Moore gets special treatment just because people think he made the Citizen Kane of comics, and he doesn’t.

    He borrows from other creations and he learns from other creations – he didn’t really care if the guys writing books that are considered classics might not like people reading them in a comic book form instead of the intended book form.
    Those classics which many of them are far better than Watchmen (in my opinion of course) have been translated to many formats.
    Gulliver’s Travels was a kids cartoon when I grew up and it was great and it was a TRANSLATION not an ADAPTATION.
    When you "adapt" a format to another format something will be lost or changed.
    I read Gulliver’s Travels many years after that and I cringe each time someone posts a review of the book in the Teen category – it’s a satire about the human condition – not a kids book.

    If that happens I might post a comment about the book there saying it’s not a kids book but a satire that anyone needs to read, but I don’t start having a fit over it.

    Plenty of book writers get their work "adapted" many times to different mediums and it in no why detracts from the original work. As for the name – just ask DC to put at the beginning "Based on the comic book Watchmen, DC Comics Publishing" or something like that.
    That way DC will be able to plug the comic book and Alan Moore won’t wake up in the middle of the night.

    As I already said – if DC makes a Watchmen 2 comic book without him he can whine all he wants – that is a rape of his original work. An adaptation is a translation of the ideas to a different medium which changes the way those ideas are presented.

    Why should he get special treatment? Stephen Kings’ work doesn’t lose something if a movie is made based on it. He’s also what some pople consider – a great living writer, a masterpiece maker, and he continues to make books and short stories regardless. He doesn’t melt, he doesn’t have a stroke… and even his work isn’t sacred enough to me for him having a free pass to whine (i liked some, didn’t like some – like the shining which is again IN MY OPINION over rated).

    Even the bible had many adaptiaions – why does he deserve to have a free pass to whine about it? He might be a great guy be he seems like the guy that hates fan fiction…

    Sherlock Holmes is a character that was adapted to many movies and only two are great and 2 or three are ok IN MY OPINION and even two thick books that are each a complete story which were great.

    What I’m saying is why does he get a free pass to bitch and moan about a little thing like that? People are reading his work and enjoying it. He’s not some obscure writer that people know just based on the movie that was made based on his book. He seems to have a hissy fit on every little thing… IN MY OPINION

  56. I’m really not understanding these anti-alan moore opinions. I know if I wrote a successful book and didn’t want it to be turned into a movie yet people just went and did it anyway regardless of what I, the author, wanted then I’d be severely pissed off too. What is it about that that people aren’t getting?

    And I agree with the person who said thankfully there is a writer who doesn’t want to sell his soul for the hollywood dollar. When you have Mark Millar seemingly producing comics for the sake of a movie deal it’s nice to have someone who is the complete opposite of that. And while I love Mark Millar’s work, I know which creator I respect more. 

  57. @chlop – I wouldn’t say Moore gets a free pass, it’s just that he’s making it an issue and thus it’s currently relevant for discussion. If Millar had talked similarly prior to the release of Wanted, the same points would be made (although the quality of the source would probably be much more debated because, let’s fave it, I’ve not chosen a very good example here.)

  58. It is horrible that Alan Moore has completely changed his position on…how….his….oh wait. This is exactly what he says every time someone asks about his books getting turned into movies.

    I do find it odd that comic fans seem to want permission from Mr. Morre to enjoy Watchmen.

     

  59. @ThomasKaters – It’s annoying how Moore revels playing the martyr.  HeHe’s proven that he can’t get along with anyone.  Ever.  When this happens with every company he works with, is it them or is it him?  Even though this is a comic board I know you of all people will get this when i say he’s the Terrell Owens of comics.

     

  60. As long as I live, I will never understand what compels us to make and watch adaptations. The best case scenario is "Awesome! This is exactly like the story I have at home, and read already!"

  61. @nickmaynard – I doubt that very much.

    I think that Tad nailed it earlier.  Many comics fans get upset when creators don’t love the things they do, or love the things as much as they do.  Alan Moore doesn’t ever want to see hiw work adaptated.  Why get upset about that?  It’s mind-boggling.

  62. from hell changed my life (the comic not the movie but, that johnny depp sure is dreamy)it showed me how a comic can be more than just boyhood power fantasies or escapism they could be literature. Mr. moore has every right to be pissed off about the shitty movies they make out of his comics. not to say watchmens going to be shitty but, look at how must of his work has been handled by hollywood, id be mad too. not to mention all the times dcs lied to him and fucked him over about V and watchmen… let the man be a little grumpy

  63. 1: Let’s hold off judgements about the movie until we’ve all seen it. I have high hopes that the film will be good, but it’s still possible that it won’t be. Either way, the book will always be awesome.  

    2: I gotta agree with @Tork and @ultimatehoratio on this: Moore’s position seems pretty weak. He cries foul about Hollywood transfering his characters to another medium, yet he feels entitiles to take the characters of Jules Verne, Bram Stoker, Lewis Carroll, J.M. Barrie, etc. and transfer them to a different medium. I don’t fault Moore for feeling frustrated about the lack of his control he has over his characters, but he should at least acknowledge that he’s guilty of the exact same thing. 

    3: It’s very possible that Moore knows that creating controversy for the film will only help promote it, which, in turn, will help sell copies of the book. From what I understand, he may not own the rights to Watchmen, but he does still recieve royalties. Moore’s a smart guy. Do you really think he’s unaware of this possibility? 

  64. @Android: Yeah you would think Moore would love the fact that 200,000 new copies of Watchmen GN’s will come out this year. Probably even more then that will be sold from this time to the film comes out! I understand why he hates these adaptations and he should be upset….but if I was him and I saw the money that will be raking in because of the interest of the book because of the film….Maybe saying ‘spewing venom’ is a little harsh compared to the money that’s gonna come his way.

  65. I say we gather some lads, take a trip to Northampton, and give him what for!

  66. @chlop just shut the hell up. we get you hate watchmen and alan moore. he DID make the citizen kane of comics(at least thats what most people think)

    sorry for the flaming negativity ifanboy, but someones gotta do it.

    i know watchmen will never be as good as the book, but it could make an alright film. watchmen is such a strong work that the only thing that would defame it would be a crappy sequel by alan moore.

     

  67. @gwiz and that someone will be us if necessary.  Please don’t talk to other users like that.  He’s got an opinion, and it’s different than yours.  Everyone treats everyone else with respect here.

  68. If iFanboy ever decides to sing any of my reviews or read one of them to the beat of music, I want my name taken off of it.

    Wait, I take that back.  That might be awesome.

  69. @ultimatehoratio I’m down for giving Mr. Moore what for!

    Though by "what fo" I simply mean gravel at his feet and beg for him to bless me. 

  70. @androidmoser – what for = involuntary shave

  71. @ultimatehoratio Who is being shorn? Me or Moore?

  72. Watchmen is unfilmable because it’s a comic book about comic books, and it’s completely wedded to the form of sequential art.  The pre-issue inserts, the pirate interludes – it’s about the history and the poetics (to use an overly pretentious word) of comics.  Try to turn that into a film and you get something very different.  Best case scenario and it’s sin city, an overly visual special effects showcase with nothing to say.  I’m skeptical of the script, the actors, and whatever Snyder’s professions of fandom, the director too.  There is no way this movie can possibly do justice to the series.

  73. Very well said biftec.  I suppose, the story, as Moore imagined it, was in comic book form.  I’m sure there are quite a few novelists out there who wouldn’t want their work adapted to, say comics, for example.

  74. It’s interesting reading this, this morning. This weekend I was the Birmingham International Comics Show, here in Britain, listening to Dave Gibbons talking positively about the film, and his book Watching The Watchmen.

    I suspect that the key difference here is that they have gone into a huge amount of detail in reproducing what Dave originally drew. It’s pleasing for him to see that time and effort being respected.

    Moore on the other hand knows that no matter what will be done there will always be compromises on what he wrote. I think it’s fair to say that a certain amount of his attitude over this situation does also come down to bad blood with DC comics, but I’m always very impressed with Alan’s determined attitude towards the filming of his work. To him he created comics because he wanted to create comics – because he felt there were many things he could do with the medium. Watchmen is very much a dissection of comic book universes and their characters, using knowledge from within, drawing parallels from genres within the medium.

    If you don’t read comic books you’re not going to get the most out of it. You’ll still like it, but a broader understanding of the comics medium enriches the experience. Many moviegoers DON’T have that knowledge. And removing the prose sections, which are so integral TO the story, removes something more from it. By rights it is not shoot-able to anywhere near what Moore would see as satisfactory.

    I cringed during the Q&A session yesterday, when a guy asked Dave Gibbons "So just how crazy IS Alan Moore?". Cringed partly because I was sitting directly two rows behind from Leah Moore and John Reppion (Although I;m sure she’s used to that by now) but also because it’s such a stupid statement.

    Dave replied that he thought Moore was ‘absolutely not crazy’ and that he finds it greatly amusing that Hollywood execs cannot understand why he’d want his name off a movie "He doesn’t want to be rich? He doesn’t want to be famous?". Gibbons said that he respects Alan’s decision. 

  75. Well, nowadays comic publishers are more in control of the filming of comic books so maybe we’ll see five versions of Watchmen – reboots and retcons are now prominent in movies.

    And maybe they’ll divide it to three parts, and use an old technique that was used in black and white movies where a newspaper spun to view and sometimes someone read it – do that for the text excerpts.

    And put in the movie credits: Based on Watchmen – Not by Alan Moore.

    And yes, i’m just joking…