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1. dcraigross says:

   August 2, 2012 at 4:51 am

   I totally agree, the main problem with this event is that Marvel don’t seem to care at all about their own history. As a big x-men fan i’m dissappointed that none of the characters past history is explored in any detail. I understand that you want to make it accessible to new readers, but if I were a new reader I wouldn’t care about any of these guys because they have no depth. Also if the point is to be accessible, why bring in things like k’un l’un and never explain what they are?

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   • KenOchalek says:

     August 2, 2012 at 10:59 am

     I think they’ve provided the basics about K’un L’un — I’m aware of what it is, but I’ve never read an Iron First book. I know it’s a mystical city in another dimension. Iron FIrst and that other dude (Thunderer?) are a big deal there.

     It’s essentially a place the Avengers can hide where the Phoenix X-Men can’t find them.

     Is there something else I ought to know?
   • rwpos says:

     August 2, 2012 at 8:35 pm

     Is there anything more that you need to know about K’un Lun for the sake of this story? Not so far. And if you need to know more later for the newly minted connection between the Phoenix force and the immortal weapons to make sense then perhaps you’ll be given that information at that time. But there is a lot more to learn about the city generally…
2. theWAC1 says:

   August 2, 2012 at 2:24 pm

   I’ve been a long time X-Men reader, and I’ve read enough Avengers to know who they are, and I gotta admit I really like this series. With so many awesome characters it is a HUGE undertaking to make a good, deep story and still make as many people happy as possible, and I think they’re doing just that. Who exactly are the villains in this series? Depends on your viewpoint, and that’s sort of what makes it fun. These X-Men aren’t the X-Men we’ve grown to love (have you read them lately?) and I feel that they are actually behaving in character. The Avengers seem pissed that they’re no longer needed and are trying to get back to their previous status. I’ve been reading each issue, and then rereading them in 4s, with no crossovers, and am not a bit confused, or disappointed. I was for a couple issues, right after the plot turned, but upon rereads, I’m really excited to see how this turns out. It’s been creative, “out there”, exciting, and actually pretty smart. I don’t understand all of the hating that’s been going on.

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   • rwpos says:

     August 2, 2012 at 8:37 pm

     After the last two issues if you still think that the villains are based only on your point of view then you are a morally challenged person.
   • rwpos says:

     August 2, 2012 at 9:31 pm

     And like you, I wasn’t confused by anything with this story, nor was I confused by the previous issues. I understood them perfectly. I just don’t like the characters or their actions. I also understand that this story will appeal to many people who aren’t me, and my review wasn’t written as a pursuasive argument to try to make others not enjoy this book. It was just an expression of my reaction to this comic. I prefer my “heroes” to be less brutal than the Joker with a kidnapped Robin. I prefer my heroes to be able to engage in mature conversations with their comrades. I prefer a lot of things that haven’t been this series or its tie-ins. Thus my negative reaction.
   • theWAC1 says:

     August 2, 2012 at 11:35 pm

     I think you got it right. I do like my villains bad, for lots of reasons, and I guess I can see why people are disappointed with their heroes’ actions. Thing is, besides Namor and Emma, who have always been kinda shady, I would have to argue that the Phoenix is the main antagonist. Look at all the good that transpired early on. I sort of fall where Beast falls in issue 7 (I think). It’s conversations like these that tell me something went right with a series, and in no way was I intending to criticize your review. It’s a good review. I just have a hard time reading so many negative reviews on a solid, entertaining event that seems to have taken a lot of work.