Special Edition Podcast
Special Edition – Daredevil
Show Notes
Conor Kilpatrick and Josh Flanagan are joined by former iFanboy columnist Mike Romo to talk about the 13-hour original series (from the partnership of Netflix and Marvel Studios) featuring real estate crime and punching — so much punching — Daredevil!
Running Time: 00:48:45
Music:
“The Boxer”
Simon and Garfunkel
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This series is in my top 3 things Marvel has done in the MCU so far. I absolutely loved this, and I don’t really have any connection to Daredevil other than seeing the earlier movie with Affleck. Never read any DD books either. Foggy took an episode for me to latch onto but afterwards I was completely on board. And how good is Charlie Cox? I wouldn’t have thought, and it’s weird to think it’s the same guy from Stardust. I don’t think there was a single bad piece of casting in this. The priest is great, D’Onofrio is just a great Fisk, Toby Moore is great as Wesley. Everybody. I’m just giddy over it. The only complaint I have is that it could have ended an episode or two sooner maybe. But I still liked it either way.
Glad they got a second season.
Also was super surprised how brutal it was. The uh… bones thing in the Russian prison especially made me go, “OH”. As if the fight in the second episode wasn’t enough.
Man, I loved Foggy from the word go. The Matt and Foggy in college stuff was excellent.Karen took a bit to grow on me, but when she did, I REALLY liked her.
I was into almost everything, although I think a few parts dragged out a bit too long, like the hostage situation bit in World On Fire. Stick was awesome. I loved how people not familiar with the comics can go back and read just a few select arcs, and see where the show took cues. Primarily, those were Born Again, Man Without Fear, and Fall of the Kingpin.
Speaking of, the end scene of Stick was lifted straight out of issue #2 of Man Without Fear. It had been some time since I read that, but I caught it last night since I’m giving it a re-read. That issue has some Matt and Foggy college stuff, along with that “greek girl”. Pretty fun nods in the show.
I actually felt that Charlie Cox was one of the weaker actors overall. That said though, it just shows how much of a fantastic job everyone else did. His stilted way of speaking bugged me at times.
Vanessa…man. MAN. I’m not really familiar with any portrayal of her in the comics, so in my first experience seeing her, what an amazing job as basically, a woman who can break the kingpin. I really enjoyed the scene in the penthouse where they showed how she broke Fisk’s routine. I think that was very well done. Also, she was hot.
Killing Ben Urich blew my mind. I know they only intended on one season of Daredevil, but if they’re aiming to build a street level MCU, why kill Ben Urich? I didn’t quite understand that. They could have gone any number of ways with that. Perhaps even Fisk pulling strings at the hospital where Ben’s wife was to make sure she got further care, and have that as a way to control Ben.
Ay any rate, great freaking show. I can’t wait to see these upcoming series, especially Iron Fist.
The release schedule for the Netflix shows is actually considerably faster than what Conor mentioned at the end. “AKA Jessica Jones” will be released at the end of this year, and Cage and Fist both are planned for next year, in addition to DD’s second season. So, two shows this year, two more new ones next year along with DD’s return.
“You should think of it about as roughly a year. Some will roll in as early as eight months and others in 15 months apart, and basically what it is is we’re not trying to meet a fall programming schedule or trying to hit a grid number, so really we want to give the shows enough time.” – Netfllix CCO Ted Sarandos speaking in January.
Things can change either way, obviously.
Personal fav episode is 9, Speak of the Devil, NOT because of the aweseome fight with a Hand Ninja, where DD gets beat to a plup, that was great and it’s use as a framing device was stellar. No I like it for the talk Matt has with his preist about justified murder, is it right to kill an evil man, and what does it mean to try? That idea is quinitesentially daredevilian, about justice, violence, and it’s reprocussions. I’ll be sad to see that preist killed, probably by Bulleye, because you know that’s going to happen.
Also AKA Jessica Jones is supposed to be out later this year, not next year, as was said on the podcast. (I’m thinking mid October. They started filiming in Feburary, should be done by late July…you worked in Tv production Josh and Connor, you do the math) Luke Cage is supposed to be next year in the spring slot, followed by Iron Fist later in 2016. The Defenders follows this in a shorter run of 4-8 episodes in 2017. How DD getting a second season messes with this is still to be seen.
“You should think of it about as roughly a year. Some will roll in as early as eight months and others in 15 months apart, and basically what it is is we’re not trying to meet a fall programming schedule or trying to hit a grid number, so really we want to give the shows enough time.” – Netfllix CCO Ted Sarandos speaking in January.
Things can change either way, obviously.
Did Room say “Bee-onic Woman?”?
Daredevil was so, so good that to me it’s ruined some of the other superhero content shows/movies that are out or coming out.
Like for instance I cannot look at Arrow the same way now after watching Daredevil and after finally seeing a street-level superhero being done so right in a way I could not imagine could ever be done right. Same with some of the reviews we’re seeing from Avengers 2 (I think they’re being tainted by how good Daredevil was)… Also the one thing that’s missing from not only Arrow but even much of Marvel’s cinematic universe… a compelling multi-layered villain that inspires terror. Outside of The Dark Knight’s Joker, Wilson Fisk is the only other compelling villain I’ve seen properly portrayed in any comic-book adaptation as of this point.
Great podcast covering this show though. My only minor, minor gripe is that I wish you guys had gone more in-depth analyzing some of the aspects other characters from the show. Like what you guys thought of James Wesley (phenomenally portrayed by Toby Leonard Moore), or Madame Gao’s possible lore, or maybe even Wilson Fisk’s obsession with abstract art and how it relates to his character/awful upbringing. So much to go through 🙂
I agree with Josh (or at least I think it was him) who mentioned also that it’s tough binge-watching an entire series through.
I’m not an exec at Netflix, but I think rather than all at once or one episode at a time (like on television), they should compromise and release a month’s worth at the beginning of each month (like 4 episodes a month for 4 months). That’s almost like a similar model to releasing comic mini-series. I think that would get people talking about the show and being interested a lot longer than everyone blowing through in one weekend.
But yeah, again, great show. I want more, and I don’t know where to get it because there’s nothing else like it that’s out. I guess we still have The Flash but even that pales in comparison. (Arrow definitely pales in comparison)
Very much looking forward to a Daredevil season 2. And I hope the upcoming Netflix series’ can match the performances in this one, because this will be hard to top.
I’m not going to say that Arrow is garbage, sometimes when you sort through garbage you might find something interesting.
Amell is fine but that dialogue. CW-itis.
The difference between Arrow and Daredevil is a high school play and a professional production.
I wasn’t a fan of the gypsy ninja costume and overall it was shot in such low light but my quibbles are minor with Daredevil no real groan moments.
And kudos to D’onfrio for finding that machine at the gym the just works out his face, dude seriously bulked up there.
I think Netflix should release these shows in binge ‘chunks’ 3-4 episodes at a time with a anticipation build period in between.
Sony actually has it right with their Powers schedule. Its just a shame that none of the Powers episodes seem to be worth watching.
I really have nothing to add other than since about 1998 Daredevil has probably been the most consistently compelling comic being made (excepting Shadowland). The show was so very good I just loved it.
What are the chances they just adapt the Fraction Iron Fist? Such a great run until he left.
Don’t forget Turk!
This series brought me back to comics and the podcast again. Haven’t bought issues in a year and a half, but as soon as i finished this series I signed up for a Marvel Unlimited account to go back and read all the Daredevil I had missed.