Special Edition Podcast
Show Notes
The iFanboy Animation Brain Trust — Conor Kilpatrick, Paul Montgomery, and Ryan Haupt — reconvene to discuss the latest DC Universe Animated Original Movie: Batman: The Killing Joke! It’s one of the most divisive and most famous Joker stories of all time… can the return of Bruce Timm do the adaptation justice? Plus! Quick thoughts on Jared Leto’s take on The Joker in Suicide Squad, looking ahead to Justice League Dark and Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders! Also, cicadas!
Running Time: 00:55:00
Music:
“Baby Did A Bad Bad Thing”
Chris Isaak
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I feel like the Barbara – Bruce thing was hinted at in the New Adventures of Batman even. I really wish they would have just done a Batgirl short, and a Killing Joke short. I just think it would have been better. I thought the adaptation of the Killing Joke the last half hour was pretty good.
Given the track record, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Great show by the way, I thought the discussion was really good. I love this podcasts.
Thanks!
I can’t wait to read “Batman: The Killing Joke” – Noir Edition. I ordered it after this podcast finished.
Conor, totally agree with you on the length of the Barbara prologue. It’s especially jarring when you throw in the flashbacks to Joker’s origin. Now it’s like you have three different important stories going on at once, and one of them really doesn’t fit. If someone were to watch this before ever reading the book, those flashback scenes would seem really unnecessary and awkwardly tacked on, because the movie seems more like a Batgirl story than a Joker story. It would have been better had the prologue either: a) provided some reason for why the Joker did what he did in the context of building our connection to Batgirl; or b) done more to emphasize the randomness of Joker, so that when he does shoot her we feel like “That fits with his character, sure.”
Kind of surprised there was so much talk about the voice performances and no talk about the absence of Andrea Romano.
To me that explains the problem with any of the voice acting here.
Her lack of involvement is felt dearly in the recent films.
Have been thinking about this for over two years now, and have decided that, in my opinion, as far as the Batman/Batgirl sex is concerned, it really was just added to this feature to promote DC’s first R-rated “for mature fanboys only” project. They needed to deliver provocative sex as well as violence, and the only substantial female character in this story is Batgirl, so – she’s the one who bangs Batman. But I agree with Conor 100%, it’s yucky and unnecessary. I don’t care if a few previous DC projects say that Batman and Batgirl have been romantic; it’s simply not in my own personal DC canon, I did not appreciate it here, and I hope to never see it again.
As far as that Batgirl/Paris Francesco prologue goes… I also felt it was awkward and too long, but I get its intent. In pointing out to Batgirl that crimefighting is exponentially more dangerous when the villain takes a personal interest in you, Batman is setting up the movie’s next segment about his own relationship with Joker.
All that being said, I did like how the comic book Killing Joke was adapted here, and I do feel this movie was worth watching. The only reason I waited this long to watch it is because that Batman/Batgirl sex controversy convinced me it was too odious to step into.