Special Edition Podcast
Show Notes
Thanks to our awesome Patrons, we’re proud to present another Booksplode!
This month, Josh Flanagan and Conor Kilpatrick take a look at…
Batman by Neal Adams, Book Three by Neal Adams, Dennis O’Neil, Dick Giordano, Len Wein, and Frank Robbins!
Here’s a color/art comparison of one of the pages that we talked about on the show as it is presented in this edition versus The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told collection:
What’s a Booksplode? It’s a bi-monthly special edition show in which we take a look at a single graphic novel or collected edition, something we really just don’t have time to do on the regular show.
Running Time: 00:42:04
Music:
“You’ve Got a Friend (2019 Remaster)”
James Taylor
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Great show!
Completely agree re: the recoloring job on this book. The art should’ve been presented as it was originally. I suspect that the recoloring is mandated by Neal for these collections, since his studio (Continuity) is one of the companies credited in the fine print in the beginning. Whether the reason is quality of the original job or a way to pay Neal again, I don’t know. Superman vs Muhammad Ali also suffers from the same thing.
Btw. I have the print version of this collection released years ago, and the prices are visible on the covers in the gallery.
Thanks for a fun episode.
Bill
Think if I had to read it with the New colours I would be completely thrown. They are awful. Enjoyed this podcast, it felt even more edited and polished than normal.
I also wonder if it was a production concern. I agree that if it isn’t then this is the wrong move. You lose the historical value of the book if they are doctoring art and redoing colors. I almost would have preferred it just be not colored rather than recolored like some of those old cheap X-Men trades were.
When Grant Morrison began writing Batman, he said in an interview that he wanted a return to the “hairy-chested sex god Batman.” Almost 15 years later, that phrase remains lodged in my brain.
Apparently, Neal Adams’s Batman is Morrison’s platonic ideal of the character.
Great episode, guys. I really want to check out (parts of) the book.
Great memories. Dick Grayson’s friends in the Halloween story (“Night of the Reaper,” Batman #237) were based on real-life comics creators. The spaced-out guy is Alan Weiss, who isn’t so well known bit did art for DC and Marvel. The other two are Bernie Wrightson and Gerry Conway. Thor is standing on Denny O’Neil’s foot on page 12 of the story.
Wow. That’s some deep cut knowledge. How do you come across something like that?
I remembered it from the time and confirmed with a Google search: https://13thdimension.com/batman-237-the-greatest-halloween-comic-book-ever/.
And it’s another ditto from me as regards messing up the colouring, and the value of inkers – how much better is Kevin Maguire when he’s teamed with an inker/embellisher than when the colourist is having to do the finishing and modelling, for example?
I’ve never like Ra’s al-Ghul and Talia, they’re refugees from a Bond film for me, and I don’t want Bruce Wayne 007 (except in that one issue of JLI). Still, these stories are stone cold classics, thanks for looking at them.
I was thinking the price might have been removed from the digital file to not conflict with the comixology price and they grabbed those files for the collection. I have no idea if this is true, just an idea that popped in my head.
I have the mid 2000 hardcovers of these and from the second volume the addressed the recolouring:
-Neal Adams recolored his own pages
-The explanation goes a lot into the fact that they had used duo-tone the first time
I scan the section of the forward and share it if people want to see it.
More interesting is volume 1 of the hardcover series as about half was recolored.
Hunh. It’s still weird they didn’t try to recreate the color as it was presented originally. That seems like the wisest course. But, what do I know?