Looks like the sidekicks are going to get a lesson in superheroing… or maybe it'll just be Superboy. He did grow up in a giant test tube, afterall.
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Love the button in the bust! Classic 60’s show trademark lol
If Black Canary was my teacher….I’d learn nothing.
@PaulMontgomery You and a certain young speedster.
I felt the “aster”. Nice episode and someone here would like the tease of a certain character.
I really wish this show was in hour-long blocks.
crap! i fell asleep.. how did it end??? Did Superman decide to help him??
so it IS Dick Grayson.
Access : Incredible Hulk…oh wait…wrong show. You won’t like me when I’m angry.
@Paul Ditto. I felt the writing for this episode was superior. The Connor / Supes dynamic they are strongly playing up is really well done. I’ve been looking for another kickbutt animation show to soothe the Justice League / Unlimited bruise when it stopped production. Looks as if Young Justice is that salve. Well done DC.
Has Gotham City ever been placed on a map in relation to other real world cities before? It almost looked like it was in CT.
@Flounder isn’t Gotham south of New York?
speaking of which, what state are these DC cities part of?!
Love the characterization of Superboy. Actually love the characterization of all the Young Justice kids.
The DC Cities float about a bit. There are certain cities like Metropolis that don’t make sense when you tabulate all the info, on the Eastern Sea Board but close enough to do a few hours bus ride to Smallville, Kansas.
I always thought Metropolis was a Chicago stand in and thought Illinois was close enough that Metropolis would be close to Chicago and on the Lake, still in the midwest. In Smallville TV series, Metropolis is in Kansas. I think most comics treat Metropolis and Gotham like they’re in New York and New Jersey respectively.
I always thought Gotham felt a bit more like Boston Mass in Architecture Style but more like Detroit in a “Can’t a City get a break”
The only time I can think (and I looked it up to be sure) that DC nailed down the locations was after Infinite Crisis DC created a map and placed Metropolis and Gotham on opposite sides of Delaware Bay, Gotham on the Jersey side but that might not be canon anymore, I doubt it is.
I was just wiki’ing the cities in DCU and Gotham and Metropolis have moved around a lot more then even I had though, same with Central City, Fawcett City, Star City and even Themyscira has moved from a Greek Island, to an Atlantic Island to being in the Bermuda Triangle
Here’s a good link to all of the places in the DCU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:DC_Comics_populated_places
So the shortest answer to the question “Where are the DC cities located?” is, “Where the writer’s need them to be.”
@Crucio ugh…brain…hurt…
Why was Wayne Tower in Metropolis?
@conor He’s like Trump, got towers all ova.
@Crucio Also I’ve read that Metropolis is Toronto and Gotham is NY. But then dumb writers put real cities in the DCU later on. Pfft who wants real cities?? We already have those.
Frank Miller says Metropolis is NY in the day and Gotham is NY at night.
Etc. etc. open to interp.
Okay, I have a question. Does Ivo have some kind of teleportation tech? Because otherwise I don’t understand how he could have gotten away.
He was there just before they defeated Amazo, and then he was gone. And why didn’t they try to look for him? Amazo was down and they all just stood there, going “Where is Ivo? We can’t see him, so he must have gotten away. Let’s not bother trying to search for him or anything, he is an old man, so he must be miles away by now. It’s not like we have a speedster in our group or somebody who has superhearing. Let’s just stand here.”
Other than that minor thing, loved the episode.
Loved this episode! Megan growing multiple limbs to fight off the robot monkeys was hilarious, and Robin’s uni-motorcycle was very cool to see. Modeled exactly like a real one! The animation looked even better than usual too.
Also, it seems like Superman, Conner, and Batman should go on the Maury Show.
you’d think that after the kind of fathers Superman has had, he’d be at least be a good one. abandoning your son must be a Kryptonian thing.
I loved how Batman ordered Devilsfood Cake and Superman ordered a slice of Apple Pie…and then promptly ordered that bitch to go! “I’ll take my slice of Americana outta here!”
@Flounder In the 70s DC Atlas they said Gotham was in Jersey and Metropolis was in Delaware
Love the series, love the episode. The following are comments and nitpicks for those who enjoy such things and are not intended as a denigration of the show. Seriously. The only way a show can even get these kinds of comments is because it’s is going after (and succeeding at) a realistic tone… if you tried to nitpick a more cartoony show you wouldn’t be able to restrict your nitpicks to a list like this. The fact that I enjoyed it, I’m more than willing to pour over it on a second watch.
1. August 3rd, 7:38 AM and these kids are on a school bus… bummer.
2. Spontaneously falling apart bridge… “City of Tomorrow”, really?
3. Pretty fast moving bridge traffic during a morning commute.
4. Lex Corp… first confirmation Luthor is in this universe.
5. Bruce has a tower with just his last name on it (no Enterprises or Industries) in Metropolis and is so dang vigilant that he looks out his window just waiting for random Acts of God to strike the bridge even during the daytime! If this wasn’t a kinder and gentler Batman, one might even suspect him of orchestrating the bridge accident…
6. Bust of Shakespeare is a awesome reference to the Adam West show, but a little out of place on an executive’s office desk, no? And some pretty primo placement for the suit in your top left hand drawer… ah well, economy of animation.
7. Superman to save the day! He’s “fixing” the bridge from underneath… despite it clearly being a suspension bridge with snapped cables…
8. Superboy! As he leaps amongst completely immobile cars, perhaps he needs some lessons in triage when he prioritizes the unmoving white sedan over a shifting bus full of diverse school children.
9. It’s easy to dismiss Superboy has overly angsty, but the writers make an effort to have it actually come from somewhere (versus, say, Superman X)… here, he makes an earnest effort to connect with Superman and gets rejected by his father figure to his face. If you didn’t have a life of normal experiences to balance you out you’d be angsty too.
10. “Clark, we need to talk… and despite the fact we are talking now we won’t.” (Eh, he needs to focus on the mission, fair enough)
11. Playing any reflex oriented game against Kid Flash seems like a fool’s errand.
12. Kid Flash likes bananas… I wonder if the creators ever ran track or cross country where coaches always demand their runners keep up their potassium.
13. Superboy clearly sees a game in progress and takes the effort to walk right through it… what a drama queen!
14. Superboy jealous of and resenting J’onn and Megan.
15. Canary declares class is in session… it would be nice if it had been scheduled!
16. Canary clearly fights in the jacket so why would she take it off to… fight? Stripping down as your first act amongst your students is probably not what they encourage teachers to do. That said, the bandage is a nice touch concisely establishing the humanity of Black Canary for the unfamiliar.
17. Continuity flub… in the widest shot we see the room is entirely empty… then when Kid Flash tosses his banana peel we hear it land in a can and he says, “Swish.” I said this was gonna get nitpicky. 😛
18. Kid Flash is jobbing. 😛 Overall, he’s clearly slower in this than most comic book portrayals, but to reliably perform the whirlwind feat of the third episode his reflexes and perception should be much better. The idea here is that he performs the block but doesn’t see the kick coming… but even we as viewers see it coming and with his sped up reaction time it should be even more obvious. Even after getting hit, he should be able to recover or at least soften his fall. Chalk it up to an overconfident KF not willfully using his abilities, I suppose.
19. “He allowed me to dictate the terms-” what? What she did had nothing to do with that.
20. “Training is mandatory.” Then it would have been nice to schedule it ahead of time!
21. “8 Leaguers 4 hours”. Jobbing.
22. How does J’onn know the tech bears the signature of Ivo?
23. Gotham is a little between White Plains and New Haven. And I doubt it’s meant this way, but pointing out Springfield, MA could be a nod to how the Springfield in The Simpsons is impossible to nail down… this series is going to tell you were Gotham AND Springfield are. 😛
24. Not a bad mission structure for the show and the undercover aspect explains why YJ are on call rather than the League proper… but given the members we’ve seen, it’s hard to explain why it isn’t Flash, GL, or Zatara handling transport much more quickly and with greater security.
25. One nice thing is that this indicates that the League teleporters (rumored in the first episode) clearly are more limited in scope than the JLU Timm versions. So they can’t simply beam the parts to their respective targets.
26. “Four additional decoy trucks to create confusion.” So a total of six trucks. The League’s defense against a person with the resources to build an entity that can tie up eight Leaguers for four hours is overwhelmingly confound them with a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a real truck assuming they can’t just attack all the trucks? Meanwhile those decoy trucks don’t have the benefit of undercover escorts to protect them from a villain who- according to this plan- doesn’t know the difference between a decoy and a real truck… meaning decoy drivers are red shirts. Again, show script economy… no way to get across a complex airtight plan in the time allotted… you just have to overlook it.
27. “So now we take out your trash?” That’s a pretty aggressive interpretation of the sitch.
28. Motorbikes… you know what that means! Toys!
29. Wow, awkward. Supes looks at Superboy and looks away.
30. “STAR Manhattan”? In the greater metro area sure, but I’m slightly skeptical of a STAR-level lab in the heart of NYC. We’re not talking about a blood testing or pharm lab… we’re talking Hadron Collider / Amazo Android type laboratory. Must have had the same permit-guy Daredevil and The Hand got.
31. Again, I get the undercover concept… but unless you’ve got motorcycle escorts on the other trucks, that’s a pretty strong flag for which trucks to hit don’t you think? Additionally, when the route begins with a bunch of capes standing around, how strong is the undercover aspect really? It’s not like the baddies didn’t know there was League involvement… they took out Amazo and guarded the body until transport! So if they already know the League is involved, why not let the League quickly execute the transport?
32. This timeline is strange. It took 8 Leaguers 4 hours to contain Amazo… so counting back from the Mount Justice briefing at 1PM, they’ve been fighting him since between 7:30AM and 9AM depending on how long it took Superman to fly from Metropolis to Litchfield. YJ gets their briefing by 1PM and get out to Litchfield by 8PM. In that 7 hour gap they could have transported the pieces many times over! Assuming all the time was spent securing the pieces, how could they overlook something that Robin catches in the field? League is jobbing! 😛 This seems like a clear situation of “Fast is Safe” but instead they wait for Batman and YJ to get out to there 7 hours later?
33. “We need to talk.” I’m going to assume it didn’t take Bruce 7 hours to get to Litchfield from Metropolis… so in all the intervening hours after the briefing, he couldn’t talk with Superman?
34. “Aster.” Robin parsing words is an interesting character trait- distinctive if nothing else… but for someone that into coding and hacking, the intricacies of linguistics (particularly if they fascinate him this much) should be easily grasped. This seems like it would have been a better trait to give Megan or Aqua Lad as ESL. Still, it’s a tonal thing and it works.
35. “Quiet Mission” Are the League expecting an attack or not? A lot of precautions on one hand and a day-long lag until execution and a comment like this on the other.
36. “I hate monkeys.” You’re 16 weeks old, how much experience do you have with monkeys to warrant hatred?
37. Ivo must have watched Tron recently.
38. Battle Mode – Toys toys!
39. Wally ditches the unnecessary bike.
40. Growing extra limbs, cool.
41. Why isn’t Megan flying after the box? Why isn’t KF running after it?
42. The fact Robin saves the driver sort of highlights the League was expecting the decoy drivers just to die. 😛
43. Good to know Megan has telepathic range.
44. Aqua Lad’s explanation for not calling in the League is a bit thin. Wally is appropriately sarcastic… but then follows it up saying they don’t know where to go (you would if you had followed them!). Maybe the cornfields were supposed to act as a speedster deterrent?
45. Universal hacking port. Parts with GPS… groan.
46. I guess Megan is too slow- even flying… why wasn’t her ship around? Can’t it fly cloaked? How did they get from Mt. Justice to Litchfield anyways?
46. Metropolis 9:18PM… so it took Batman and Superman 1 hour and 10 minutes to change and get to Bibbo’s Diner (another reference)… so if the commute is that short, why the 7 hour delay? Why not talk during the commute? Did they make a date… for just dessert? They thought this was a conversation best held in public in their civilian personalities? Is Bruce Wayne unrecognizable in Metropolis? The entire conversation was less than a minute… it couldn’t have come up in the hours prior?
47. Kinder gentler Bruce may seem odd, especially with rejection prone Clark… but I honestly feel it all works. There’s a certain level of automatic legitimacy the audience gives Batman, so whatever he says gets added weight / veracity allowing the writers to drive home points that would be too sappy from anyone else. Likewise, the off-kilter Clark does humanize Superman- which might bug some who idolize him- but it makes him a deeper character rather than a cardboard cut-out. This Superman has a deep appreciation for fatherhood and perhaps his inability to ever be one… so to be violated with a clone and have the word “father” slapped on top of it is a reasonable shock. However, he also knows a thing or two about adoption and the right thing so expect him to eventually come around and for it to be all the more meaningful for it (than if he had welcomed Superboy with open arms upon first sight).
48. Gotham 9:21PM… so in the time it took the box to leave from Litchfield to this point, Bruce and Clark got to Metropolis, which implies the latter were faster which again begs the question, why not perform the transport 8 hours ago at said speed?
49. Ivo just got the parts and Superboy arrives immediately after… and Ivo is busy monologuing… so how did Amazo reassemble? Automatically? Via monkeys?
50. I appreciate the acronym… roboticists definitely have a penchant for them.
51. Nolan North on a train.
52. What’s Ivo’s plan? Wasn’t it to recover Amazo? If he sends Amazo after Superboy doesn’t that increase the probability that the League will become involved and simply defeat and reclaim Amazo? Shouldn’t he focus on getting away?
53. Why would you feel naked in civvies?
54. Good to know Robin still attends school as opposed to some sort of home schooling arrangement. Apparently, however, that school system is letting him down in term of English studies given all his linguistic parsing.
55. Those monkeys are FAST… they lifted Ivo off a moving train and into the school where he could position himself in the gym and give his dramatic slow clap right on cue!
56. Okay, I know it’s for our benefit as the audience, but surely it wasn’t a good idea to design an android that telegraphs his every move and power- “Access Flash”- before using it?
57. Artemis’ arrow (or Speedy’s). How would she even be there? She doesn’t have the power to follow Superboy or KF, so either she patrols empty schools during Summer nights in Gotham routinely, or she was following Robin. If she was following Robin: a) She didn’t think to step in when the monkeys attacked? b) They didn’t find it suspicious on long empty corn-lined roads that they were being followed?
58. Superboy strategizes and Robin somehow picks up on it.
59. Intangibility nitpick- putting aside an AI not smart enough to have some sort of failsafe against such a tactic… empty air isn’t empty… it’s got air molecules in it which- if phased into circuits- would be just as damaging as solid matter. I suppose the process could be displacing air each time somehow, but then you’d hear an accompanying sound.
60. I’ve ranted enough about timing… Aqua Lad and Megan show up.
61. “Feeling the aster.” See, not a complete angst ball.
62. “Hey, where’s Ivo?” again, those monkeys are FAST (one wonders why they didn’t protect Ivo from YJ)… why wasn’t Artemis keeping an eye on him?
63. A hero known for having dozens of different arrow types dispositively denies his presence by showing off one arrowhead?
64. Knowing glance between GA and Bats… it’s not Speedy.
Again, loved the episode. In broad sweeps the main complaint is timing which you just have to go with… like an episode of 24… and planning which has to be concise (even if not comprehensive) in a show like this. Nothing story crippling since the emphasis is not on the plan, but the fighting / action and the characters.
Well.
@Paul seconded
I’m calling this now, but Artemis is GA and BC’s daughter.
@Drawkward
Wow!
why can’t flying superheroes land without crushing the pavement? Showoffs!
Looks like Gotham might be where Bridgeport CT is on Earth Prime. Which would make sense…Bridgeport is a scary dump of a city.
@DrAwkward wow
@Gilgabob Superboy doesn’t fly so much as jump long distances like The Hulk.
@DrAwkward that was entertaining. could you do that for every episode? and for Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes? lol i’m serious.
why does superboy hate monkey’s…
@Evangelion11 They’re shifty. Can’t be trusted.
I Superboy hated monkeys because of the telepathic creatures in the pilot episode at Cadmus kind of resembling them. At least that is how I took it.
monkey throw poo
Lithium
…..So we’re all agreed on having DrAwkward do official episode review from now on?
@Heroville ….. I don’t believe there is a concensus on this, no.
@DrAwkward you do know this is a childrens cartoon show right?
@DrAwkward – How do you enjoy anything?
@DrAwkward – Wow.
is it me… but i think dick is such a dick, no pun intended…but i on see dick acting that way…
@kaydawg25 I think this iteration of Robin is an interesting amalgamation of almost all the Robin’s that have existed. I think he’s great, particularly for the way he approaches battles (i.e., like Batman), and I really enjoy the banter between him and Kid Flash.
BTW, Bruce Greenwood is fantastic as Batman in this. I enjoyed his work on Under the Red Hood, but he’s really shining in his role here.
I’m starting to like this show… well I always thought young justice was cool
Best episode so far. I love kid flash.
Oh, yeah… and this show is the opposite of the “Teen Titans” show: that is to say that it’s actually good.
“He hit on teacher and got served” – how awesome is that line? I LOVE this show!