HULK #2
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This isn't really a review of this comic so much as a rant against what the Hulk has become in recent years.
I read the other reviews here and I think I'm finally starting to get the reason that the Hulk doesn't work as a book supporting character for so many people. Many people think of the Hulk as a "Force of Nature", that he's like a storm, or an earthquake, or a volcano. That's not what the Hulk is, and the fact that so many writers (Peter David gloriously excluded) write him this way is the reason that his stories are often so boring. I mean, one can only watch the Washington Monument get destroyed in some disaster movie so many times before it becomes more of the same old same old.
The Hulk is Bruce Banner's Id. It is his innermost desire, and his innermost fear unleashed upon the world. The Hulk is every repressed desire for pleasure and release that Bruce Banner has ever had. And it is the fact that Banner is the weeniest, weakest, most repressed person imaginable that dictates that the Hulk, when released, is a raging torrent of testosterone and destruction. He is the exact opposite of Bruce Banner in every conceivable way. The gray Hulk is a smooth pimp-daddy, good with the ladies, good with words, and an epic ass-kicker in a fight. The green Hulk is pure selfish rage, capable of nothing but lashing out in anger and bravado, but also capable of selfless protection of the weak. On some level the Hulk is everything Banner wants to be, and is terrified of being at the same time. The reason that the Hulk is as physically powerful as he is, is because Banner is so physically impotent. And therein lies what should be the crux of good Hulk/Banner story telling. You have the dichotomy of a brilliant and gentle man, who in a sense misused his intelligence by attempting to create a destructive weapon, is turned into exactly what he most despises (and perhaps secretly loves); an out of control, mindless, raging font of destruction, and he was turned into this by the very bomb he created. He did this to himself. He can't stop it, but he must always try.
I think a large part of this Jekyll and Hyde type of relationship between Banner and the Hulk is lost when every Tom, Dick, and Harry also turns into a huge strong guy when exposed to gamma radiation. I think even Peter David over did it a little bit with the percentage of people, who upon exposure to gamma rays became "super", but at least with his stories it affected all people differently. The Leader was also seemingly a manifestation of what Samuel Sterns wished that he were, or wished he could be like on some level; brilliant. Able to lord it over on all of the scientists who probably treated him like crap when he was their janitor.
I don't think Jeph Loeb gets that. The Hulk isn't just some source of destruction. He's not simply the "Summer Blockbuster" of Marvel characters. He's a Greek tragedy for God's sake. We should look at Bruce Banner and pity what he's become, what he's done to himself. He should be the greatest character study in all of comics. But writers never treat him like that.
I read the other reviews here and I think I'm finally starting to get the reason that the Hulk doesn't work as a book supporting character for so many people. Many people think of the Hulk as a "Force of Nature", that he's like a storm, or an earthquake, or a volcano. That's not what the Hulk is, and the fact that so many writers (Peter David gloriously excluded) write him this way is the reason that his stories are often so boring. I mean, one can only watch the Washington Monument get destroyed in some disaster movie so many times before it becomes more of the same old same old.
The Hulk is Bruce Banner's Id. It is his innermost desire, and his innermost fear unleashed upon the world. The Hulk is every repressed desire for pleasure and release that Bruce Banner has ever had. And it is the fact that Banner is the weeniest, weakest, most repressed person imaginable that dictates that the Hulk, when released, is a raging torrent of testosterone and destruction. He is the exact opposite of Bruce Banner in every conceivable way. The gray Hulk is a smooth pimp-daddy, good with the ladies, good with words, and an epic ass-kicker in a fight. The green Hulk is pure selfish rage, capable of nothing but lashing out in anger and bravado, but also capable of selfless protection of the weak. On some level the Hulk is everything Banner wants to be, and is terrified of being at the same time. The reason that the Hulk is as physically powerful as he is, is because Banner is so physically impotent. And therein lies what should be the crux of good Hulk/Banner story telling. You have the dichotomy of a brilliant and gentle man, who in a sense misused his intelligence by attempting to create a destructive weapon, is turned into exactly what he most despises (and perhaps secretly loves); an out of control, mindless, raging font of destruction, and he was turned into this by the very bomb he created. He did this to himself. He can't stop it, but he must always try.
I think a large part of this Jekyll and Hyde type of relationship between Banner and the Hulk is lost when every Tom, Dick, and Harry also turns into a huge strong guy when exposed to gamma radiation. I think even Peter David over did it a little bit with the percentage of people, who upon exposure to gamma rays became "super", but at least with his stories it affected all people differently. The Leader was also seemingly a manifestation of what Samuel Sterns wished that he were, or wished he could be like on some level; brilliant. Able to lord it over on all of the scientists who probably treated him like crap when he was their janitor.
I don't think Jeph Loeb gets that. The Hulk isn't just some source of destruction. He's not simply the "Summer Blockbuster" of Marvel characters. He's a Greek tragedy for God's sake. We should look at Bruce Banner and pity what he's become, what he's done to himself. He should be the greatest character study in all of comics. But writers never treat him like that.
Story: 1 - Poor
Art: 4 - Very Good
Art: 4 - Very Good
See but the Hulk himself isn’t a character. I won’t agrue against the fact that maybe there could be a good Bruce Banner comic, but the Hulk himself is a mindless beast. He’s the ultimate expression of Marvel’s method of making the stories about the people behind the costumes (Spider-Man is about Peter Parker not Spider-Man), in that I don’t care about the Hulk and I’ve never been able to.
Again I’ve never read Peter David’s run, so maybe he does something different that I’d gravitate towards, but I’ve come to the conclusion that I just will never care about the Hulk. He might be good as a threat in other people’s books (showing up to kick Daredevil’s ass in Frak Miller’s run on DD for example) but I just don’t care about him. Same with the movie, as soon as the CGI showed up I stopped being interested.
Jazzlawyer, I think you’re right. I do agree that the HULK himself can be kind of boring, but the point of a lot of my tirade is that I think most writers miss the point that the HULK and BANNER should be inextricably linked. It’s the dichotomy between the two of them that really makes the character sizzle for me. Like you say, if Spider-man were just about a guy in tights with spider powers it’d be a pretty darn boring read, but that’s not what it’s about, it’s about Peter Parker and how he deals with having these powers, and the pain in the rear that they really are for him. Most writers simply chose to ignore the Banner/Hulk relationship in favor of using the Hulk as a big wrecking ball, which can be fun once in awhile, but gets boring pretty fast.
I definitely reccommend that you give the Peter David stuff a try. His run is where a lot of the psychoanalysis of the Hulk/Banner relationship comes from, and it really was pretty awesome. A lot of it can be had in the Hulk Visionaries: Peter David trades that are available (5 of them so far I think). He also kind of cheated his way around the boring "Monster" Comic aspect of it all by treating Banner as a Multiple personality disorder victim, and melding the personalities together into the "Professor" who had the strength of the green Hulk, the craftiness of the Grey Hulk, and Banner’s intellect. I really loved that run, but it’s possible that, as Conor is want to say, that Peter David may have milked the Hulk for all the interesting stories that he’s worth.
Aaak I double posted. Damn Windows.
I’ll see about giving Peter David’s run a try. If that doesn’t catch me though I’m washing my hands of this whole thing.
Post Civil War Rule #4327 – Issue 2 of every book has Iron Man in it. (see Thor, Captain Marvel, Hulk…).