Young Justice – S01E06 – Infiltrator

Posted on 02/11/11 at 6:00 PM in Articles by Conor Kilpatrick

After last week's tease with the mystery arrows flying in from out of nowhere to save Young Justice, it looks like Artemis joins the team tonight, which finally gives Miss Martian someone to talk with about boys and ponies and rainbows. (That's what girls do, right?)

I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.

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Heroville says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:07 pm

They say she’s not an original character but I can’t figure out who’d she be unless she’s like a female version of Conner Hawke or a younger version of Shado.
Heroville says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:10 pm

By the way, the Flaming C showed up again
daccampo says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:12 pm

@Heroville I just assumed she was a re-titled version of Arrowette (from the Young Justice series. maybe crossed with the new Speedy (Mia) from Green Arrow?
Heroville says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:31 pm

@daccampo No they’ve explicitly said it isn’t any of those
WeaklyRoll says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:49 pm

Here i thought it was Arrow and Canary’s Daughter.
Jack239 says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:53 pm

she is from the dcu but its a really minor character. her real first name is Artemis. i think she is the daughter of Paula Brooks. i believe her name is Artemis Crock
LukeB says:

February 11, 2011 at 6:55 pm

Well Artemis is an Amazonian in the standard DCU, she even took over as Wonder Woman for a while, so maybe she’s a replacement for Wonder Girl…. would be kind of creapy if it turns out she is some kind of really old Amazonian stuck as a teenager, weird.
Endlessw says:

February 11, 2011 at 7:03 pm

i think its the sportsman’s daughter her name was artemis, right???
Heroville says:

February 11, 2011 at 7:06 pm

Looks like FOG is a riff on one of the theories about what the Smoke Monster was.
Heroville says:

February 11, 2011 at 7:15 pm

Chesire!
Heroville says:

February 11, 2011 at 7:18 pm

I’m not sure that spider guy knows what company he’s supposed to be working for
Apotheosize says:

February 11, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Artemis Fowl
rottenjorge says:

February 11, 2011 at 8:13 pm

its nice theres a new female character im enjoying the show
MisterJ says:

February 11, 2011 at 8:38 pm

Good episode, again. This is turning into a pretty good show. I am especially enjoying the foreshadowing with Artemis and Superboy.

The ‘Hello Meggan’ has to go though, it shrieks of early 1990’s.

Glad to see Spidey and the Bionic Commando show up to help Chesire.
boomergirl says:

February 11, 2011 at 9:23 pm

I really love how everyone can be inside everyone else’s head when Meggan links them up. At one point I missed some of the jokes because it was all rapid fire. The Kid Flash/Artemis banter was fantastic and Red Arrow (they’re skipping the Arsenal code name and going straight to that one…ok) showing up was awesome.There was squealing from my part when Cheshire showed up but I was disappointed that she didn’t share screen time with Roy. I really thought they were going to go the whole episode without having Robin do his word analysis thing and lo the last 5 minutes! We keep saying “best episode yet”each time one these airs. I have a feeling that it’s going to be a while before we say other wise.
Conor Kilpatrick (@cskilpatrick) says:

February 11, 2011 at 10:55 pm

Curses! All kinds of cable issues tonight and the recording was all messed up. Luckily there’s a replay tomorrow night…
RahUniQue says:

February 11, 2011 at 11:10 pm

SMOKE MONSTER! aweSOME.
RahUniQue says:

February 11, 2011 at 11:14 pm

where is DrAwkward ‘s episode breakdown? I loved it last week. Anyone watching Clone Wars? Love that show also.
RahUniQue says:

February 11, 2011 at 11:16 pm

Chesire is wicked.
mguy77 says:

February 11, 2011 at 11:18 pm

This was my 1st episode. Quality stuff!!!

Matthew
TheGoose says:

February 11, 2011 at 11:41 pm

I’m surpised with all these different chracters they keep bringing out. I noticed Cheshire and Prof. Ojo (the guy with the one eye), Black Tarantula, but I don’t know who the guy with the hook was.

Still, good episode.
jashcraft1014 says:

February 12, 2011 at 1:53 am

Another excellent episode.
RahUniQue says:

February 12, 2011 at 3:39 am

@TheGoose that’s who that was!?! I was racking my brain. I just went with faux-spider-man. lol
rottenjorge says:

February 12, 2011 at 9:00 am

@conor watch it conor youll enjoy it
TheGoose says:

February 12, 2011 at 10:11 pm

@RahUniQue I apparently spoke too soon. Turns out the spider guy is Black Spider. I got him mixed up with the Marvel Comics, Black Tarantula. I knew I’ve seen Black Spider before in the comics (mostly in Identity Crisis) and hes also a Batman villain.

And after researching online, the guy with the Hook is named…Hook. Well, that was anti-climatic.
DrAwkward says:

February 12, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Same disclaimer as before. Love the series and this episode and if you can’t stomach nitpicks or distinguish between pointing them out and enjoyment of a show this isn’t for you.
1. August 7th. The last episode ended August 4th.
2. Infinity Island refers to a 80s issue of Batman, however, whereas that resided in the Indian Ocean, here the time stamp ECT places the island in the Caribbean.
3. Armed grunt sporting a bullpup styled rifle (note the magazine coming from the buttstock) vaguely inspired by the FAMAS with the extra long rail along the top. The grunt is wearing night vision goggles with multiple or compound lenses popularized in fiction by the Splinter Cell videogame seeing greater artistic license ever since (see, Soldier of The Maximums), gloves with armoured nuckles, and a tactical harness or vest. This is a lot of realistic detail going into a mere foot soldier.
4. The electric arrow affixes itself squarely to his chest despite its blunt head and reliably delivers a visible and audible non-lethal electric shock. Special FX trope.
5. Roy runs past the body even as it falls meaning he fired the shot very close to the target.
6. Grapple arrows that work. Not going to mention arrow tropes from here on out.
7. Nice music swell at our first clear glimpse of Roy. The last time we saw Roy was on July 17th in the third episode where he was still wearing his Speedy uniform sans had. Roy’s visited the tailor since then.
8. Man they are SERIOUS about that dress code… even a grunt monitoring security footage indoors has to wear the night vision goggles and full tac gear during his shift!
9. Wide shot of Roquette’s captivity. Nice setup, but if you want her to do work a keyboard would be nice.
10. Roy kicks a steel door off its hinges onto a grunt. Superhuman or action trope?
11. Skipping bows as viable melee weapon tropes as well. Gotta roll with all the archer stuff.
12. Budget cuts. Poor Roy. No respect even from the rescued. Does she recognize him and his lack of powers?
13. I appreciate the alarm being a bell over a generic Klaxon.
14. The Doctor is Serling Roquette a Superboy / Young Justice supporting character and unrealistically brilliant teenaged geneticist, here those ties don’t exist and she appears to be an adult.
15. “I take it or you.” Seems a bit of a false dilemma. Roy’s blue arrow manages to blow a hole through 14th century stone wall… surely his quiver of tricks includes something that could scramble, disable, destroy, delay, or compromise the device!
16. The zipcord line’s gauge increases dramatically between shots. On the plus side, look at the detail in that carabiner.
17. As the action trope requires, all grunts are terrible shots.
18. “Arrow boat.” Close, the GA arrow-themed water craft was called the Arrow Craft.
19. “Rental.” Wonder what Roy wrote as “Destination” on his form. Despite being a rental, it has an integrated remote bomb trigger interface built into the dashboard.
20. Telegraphing whine on explosives as per the trope.
21. Professor Ojo and Sensei appear.
22. Incidentally, Young Justice is doing that thing where they insert images from the episode into the opening intro.
23. August 8, 10AM EDT (which is -4 UTC the same time as ECT in our opening), so to put this into perspective, it is 10 hours after Roy rescued Dr. Roquette and he hasn’t bothered to pick up a cell phone and have the League blitz Infinity Island.
24. How covert are they supposed to be? Megan is running around with them in all her green skinned glory with four sail boats not even a hundred yards from them. Assuming sightings start to aggregate it wouldn’t be hard to put two and two together to pin down the headquarters of the team.
25. Four friends and two coolers with the HQ literally steps away, lazy and gluttonous kids!
26. The series is aware of differing start dates for school districts, still August 8th is quite early.
27. Reinforcing that Wally isn’t as fast as other Flash portrayals. He doesn’t dodge the water or the dodge balls, he is freaked out by the wet pants because he can’t just zoom home and change instantly, trips and stumbles, etc.
28. Hotdogs. No one in this group is a vegetarian apparently.
29. Wally leaves the school at super speed without a backpack or worry about being spotted apparently.
30. Since Wally appears via teleporter, I wonder where he came from.
31. Another cooler?
32. Artemis introduces herself. Having never heard of her is actually a reasonable cause for concern where here heroes are apparently mostly public.
33. Roy announces himself as Red Arrow not Arsenal.
34. Baywatch ran from 1999 to 2001. There might be some kids who don’t get this reference. 😛
35. And nanotechnology rears its head. I’m going to ignore all the tropes involved in this as well. I don’t hate the trope, but I do hope this episode gets it out of the writers’ system.
36. “League of Shadows”. Unsurprisingly, a non-comic adaptation has found the “League of Assassins” a bit too on the nose as a name and changed it. YJ follows in the footsteps of B:TAS, Beyond, BatB, and Begins.
37. 14.5 hours later and now Roy’s passing on a mission? When is now anyways? From Wally’s perspective, it should be as close to school dismissal as possible to catch any remaining rays for the beach… but Roy’s narration runs parallel to an 11PM attack in Miami suggesting a later occurrence (but making Wally’s expectations odd).
38. Roy still has access to League teleporters and bank enough to go from the Caribbean and back inside a day… stashing her at high school was the best option?
39. If Roy is so ready to wash his hands of everything, why didn’t he call the League (or Young Justice) sooner? Have Supes do a pick up or Megan’s invisible ship. Was seeing Artemis that offensive?
40. The Fog was used in Miami August 8, 21:38 EDT and now Young Justice is guarding Happy Harbor High at 21:53 EDT.
41. “Less RAM than a wristwatch.” Why is Dr. Roquette working on highschool hardware? Why can’t she work on a laptop or something as cutting edge as Robin’s hardware from the safety and comfort of Megan’s cloaked ship? From, say, orbit. Sure, the League are deadly, but I’m not familiar with any space-faring assassins in their employ. Even ignoring the security of the ship, given the stakes, Robin’s not willing to share his super-powered wristwatch?
42. “Teen think.” Again, this Roquette isn’t a teen herself.
43. Wally eating a candy bar. So are random snacks going to be his “thing” the way “Hello Megan” and “Whelmed” are for Megan and Robin respectively?
44. “Fate of the world at stake!” And Roy doesn’t call, Robin won’t share CPU resources, the League won’t help, and YJ use public grounds as secure facility. Hyperbole hopefully.
45. Incidentally, the animators must love less lip sync work… the animations are actually slightly more emotive to compensate.
46. Just noticed that KF’s night vision goggles are shaped differently (elongated with squared ends) in this episode than Drop Zone (circular).
47. “I couldn’t get the Justice League.” Really, why not? This isn’t a covert operation. Just because Roy brought the mission doesn’t mean it’s YJ material.
48. “Billboard written in neon.” OK, now it makes a little more sense. They were just meant to babysit her while she wrote the virus, meaning a low conflict mission. However, like in the last episode, Aqualad has decided to escalate YJ’s role… Aqualad goads Serling into tracking the Fog as well, which gives away her position. So, if it weren’t for Aqualad, all these episodes would be boring! That said, if the issue is being traced, again, why not use a more mobile hacking center like Megan’s ship? I’m beginning to realize that the ship is one of those things that is going to have to be ignored for the sake of the episodes.
49. Philly airport 21:57 EDT… so Professor Ojo got from Miami University to Philly in under 20 minutes? Even with a private jet that’s pushing plausibility.
50. This timing also implicates something else… that Ojo travels faster than information on Earth-16. There’s no Oracle-like person to respond to and process the distress in Miami and feed that highly relevant information to YJ in Happy Harbor, perhaps preventing Aqualad from escalating the situation with his tracking initiative. Additionally, Batman didn’t consider the targeting / tracking issue when he confirmed this mission for YJ?
51. Happy Harbor is in Rhode Island. The Shadows has insane response time / localization if three of their assassins are all there in minutes… and given Sensei’s inquisitive tone of voice, the Shadows did not have them there as deliberate plants as far as his own agenda is concerned.
52. How are three people supposed to hold this entire perimeter?
53. Note Megan can control the ship remotely (we knew this from the third episode but here it is again).
54. Note Megan does not appear to have any sort of passive ESP allowing her to sense the presence of other conscious minds within her range… otherwise the Shadows can somehow shield their minds from Megan.
55. Cheshire appears.
56. Cheshire is cheeky. Despite only two perimeter guards, she leaps over the fence on their side of the perimeter.
57. Happy Harbor Hornets.
58. A woman who’s been on the run for the past 14 plus hours has elected to stay in her conspicuous white lab coat.
59. Aqualad dives, I hear Whitney Houston.
60. “Atlantean skin is quite dense.” Perhaps, but shuriken always have limited penetration and given that each projectile sunk in to the “hilt” does density matter?
61. The whiteboard contents actually have to deal with computer science, wow.
62. Artemis hits the sai, Cheshire grabs her wrist in pain. I suppose if it torqued enough….
63. Ninja vanish! Apparently, Megan can’t or forgot to seek out Cheshire’s mind.
64. Wally’s goggles have become rounded again.
65. “You gave me mouth to mouth.” Is really slurred. This also implies Megan has gross or macro telekinesis without the finesse of 90’s era over-powered Marvel TK users… she isn’t going to be rearranging molecules, creating brain aneurysms, force choking, or removing water from lungs with TK anytime soon.
66. “We’re over Philadelphia.” That’s actually a pretty accurate depiction of where a STAR Lab would be in Philly. Also note how quickly Robin reports back and passes information, while YJ has still heard nothing about Miami.
67. YJ privileges apparently included unlimited B&Es… first the high school and now this location.
68. “I can hear you glaring.” However, “can’t hear you being ambushed” was the original comment but given this is all a dupe, no worries.
69. Black Spider and The Hook appear. The former borrowing heavily from Spider-Man and the latter becoming a bionic man unlike his comic book counterpart.
70. It was around here that I thought that this protection plan was too terrible to make sense and that they were going to do the same Megan dupe they did in the third episode… and they do. Only, I still don’t understand why she’s in an internet cafe at all… Robin and Superboy have had a fairly relaxed journey in the ship. There’s plenty of room for a woman and a laptop in there!
71. This building says, “WayneTech” so what was the building in episode five for?
72. Robin’s secret identity safe from Superboy.
73. Nice possum play.
74. Universal hacking jack / port again.
75. Kinda a gross order… a chicken avocado sandwich with chocolate milk and lemon soda? Also really expensive. That milk was $2.39. WayneTech better have other benefits because the caf will nickle and dime you to death.
76. “Outfiltrate.” Robin’s linguistic parsing thing.
77. Ojo apes Cyclops.
78. Going to skip over Artemis stuff to avoid giving away long term spoilers.
79. “I have 12 [sisters] back on Mars.” Earth-16.
80. Gotham still has telephone booths? I wonder if such teleporters work both ways. Roy sat there all day brooding in the dark for this confrontation.
81. Nolan North was Ojo. The voice cast on this episode was particularly strong: Oded Fehr, Crispin Freeman, Kelly Hu, Tara Strong, Alan Tudyk, Keone Young.
Short version: Plot-hole wise, a stronger episode than the previous one, but still a few holes with Roy not destroying the Fog during evac, not sic’ing JL/YJ on the Island inside 14 hours, not putting the good doctor on the bioship, the tracing issue (not addressed until Aqualad raises it), and the speed of flight / information from Miami. Only the bioship thing is borderline show breaking (since a big emphasis of the episode is protecting the doctor and that seems a particularly obvious way of doing it). However, we’re given more than enough character moments and action beats in 20 minutes to make such concerns insignificant.
RaceMcCloud says:

February 13, 2011 at 2:30 am

Nice episode. Glad to see Ultimate Spidey and Mia show up. Waiting on the PAD scripted episodes, and Secret. All a-tingle!

@DrAwkward – Some comments on your comments:

1 – Don’t see the problem

2 – So?

3 – … uh, sure.

4 – But the guy in red tights fighting crime with arrows is totally realistic. Got it.

5 – Yup.

6 – Why would you when there’s so much else to cover?

7 – Yes. I also enjoy music. And I think you meant “hat”.

8 – Well, they’re the “League of Shadows”, not the “League of That Shady Spot Under the Palm Tree”

9 – Everything’s touchscreen now. Keyboards, so 2010…

10 – You missed it, ten seconds before the shot began he melted the hinges with a welding arrow.

11 – Does that mean you’re going back on your “I’ll let the arrow stuff slide” promise? Naughty naughty!

12 – Nanotechnology scientists are well known for their love of snappy banter. Duh!

13 – I did not notice that nor care about it.

14 – Yes. Yes she is.

15 – Yes, but that would cause some sort of arrow trope or something, and there’s a limit on those per episode. WGA rules.

16 – I totally missed the line gauge because of the carbinger detail.

17 – They’re just on retainer from Cobra. Times are tough all over.

18 – Snappy banter FAIL.

19 – I agree; they should have spent at least ten minutes on Roy renting a boat to clear that up.

20 – You keep misspelling “tropics”.

21 – That’s not a nitpick. That’s not even a pick. It’s just a nit.

22 – I love that thing. That’s a lie. I don’t care about it.

23 – He poked them repeatedly on Facebook. They did not respond. Not his fault.

24 – Plus, who would wear yellow with that skin tone?

25 – Comics fans probably shouldn’t be throwing around names like “lazy” and “gluttonous”.

26 – The school district subplot is what I was most looking forward to. Damn them for rushing through that!

27 – And in no way is he A.) protecting his secret identity, or B.) providing comic relief.

28 – Shenanigans! Every group of four has NO LESS than 1.3 vegetarians!

29 – But the fact that he was apparently the only student dismissed didn’t bother you? Weird.

30 – I don’t.

31 – I guess YJ likes hot dogs. And beer.

32 – Except for Robin. Who Batman vouches for. Just as he does Artemis.

33 – I see you were watching this with the volume up.

34 – Kids watch this show?

35 – You promise that, but I’ll bet you don’t!

36 – Unsurprisingly, you commented on it.

37 – Seriously, how has your head not exploded from all of these inconsistencies?

38 – Maybe rather than keep questioning the actions of the renegade sidekick with pouty anger and daddy issues, you should understand that clearly the writers are painting Roy as not as good as he thinks he is?

39 – You should look up “misdirection” as a writer’s tropic.

40 – When watching this show, I suggest you put a strip of black electrical tape on the bottom left corner of the screen. You’ll enjoy it so much more.

41 – No, he’s not willing to share. And she can’t work on a JLA computer because… okay, that’s a pretty good point.

42 – Is “stating the obvious” really what’s passing for criticism these days?

43 – Yes.

44 – Non, teenagers never exaggerate.

45 – I’m not sure what that means, but it sounded dirty.

46 – Strange, because there’s only one pair of goggles in the world.

47 – Next time I see Batman, I’ll ask him why.

48 – By the time you’re done ignoring everything you have to ignore, there’ll be two-minutes and thirty seconds of total episode left you can actually enjoy.

49 – Seriously. The electrical tape. It’ll do wonders.

50 – Just thinking… having the Oracle, Batman, and the JLA solve this problem would probably defeat the purpose of having a show called “Young Justice”.

51 – You’re right. I was hoping to sit through the actual travel time of poorly planned assassins.

52 – It’s a high school, not the Taj Mahal.

53 – Noted. (Not really.)

54 – Also, she’s young and inexperienced. That COULDN’T be part of it.

55 – Appears what? Moody? Cranky? Giddy? The possibilities are endless.

56 – Oh, cheeky. Got it. Thanks!

57 – Sunny Station Squirrels.

58 – My brain hurts.

59 – Superboy flies, I hear Bobby Brown. Weird, huh?

60 – I was asking myself the same thing reading your comments.

61 – Wait… wait… were you actually impressed with something? Now THAT’S worthy of note!

62 – *He begrudgingly allowed*

63 – I love the first Ninja Turtles movie, too.

64 – Because he couldn’t have change them. Or a different animator drew them. Yes, this is as exciting a blooper as all “inconsistency” bloopers are.

65 – She will also not be overthinking one-liners. We got all that covered right here.

66 – We are SO over Philadelphia. I don’t even KNOW Philadelphia anymore. Who CARES about Philadelphia?

67 – Unlimited bacon and eggs? No problem here!

68 – That’s strange, because I can hear you overanalyzing.

69 – No, that was actually Spider-Man. Work is work.

70 – Yeah, but the ship has no Wi-Fi. So primitive, Martians…

71 – I dunno… for holding people and things?

72 – Superboy doesn’t care. Neither does anyone else. Except for you.

73 – You spelled “passion play” wrong, and I don’t think there was one in this episode.

74 – Listen, he’s ROBIN. He can DO that kind of thing! He’s the freaking BOY WONDER! If he wants a universal port, HE GETS ONE!

75 – This is where your comments jumped the shark. In case you were wondering. Yes, I’m amazed it took this long too.

76 – Better than the Jason Todd Robin’s “throwing criminals to their deaths off of balconies and then claiming they jumped” thing.

77 – Again, that was Cyclops. Times. Tough. You dig it.

78 – I can only imagine the willpower that must have taken you. Commendable.

79 – You have all of the Earths in the Multiverse committed to memory. I wish I was surprised.

80 – No, they only have the one. It’s a well known teleportation platform. Swear to me!

81 – Ollie North was… wait, no, no need to get political. Good to see some working actors, voice or otherwise.

Seriously. You need to stop doing this and enjoy things more.
edward says:

February 13, 2011 at 6:46 am

oh, you kids
EJ says:

February 13, 2011 at 7:01 am

@RaceMcCloud- Wow! I cant believe you actually sat down and took the time to counterpoint him on that asperger-ian stream of consciousness. You do the Lord’s work my son….the Lord’s work.
DrAwkward says:

February 13, 2011 at 11:36 am

@RaceMcCloud

It’s funny you can read and wrongly respond to 81 comments but you can’t read the disclaimer at the beginning to save your life. Tragic. If your mind lacks the necessary sophistication to both enjoy a medium and recognize its gaps in plotting that’s on you, there’s no need to project such a simple-minded attitude onto others and demand that they “enjoy things more.”
DrAwkward says:

February 13, 2011 at 11:56 am

@EJ “I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.”

I’m actually providing that, whereas Race is just trolling. 81 responses to me and my post and not the substance of the show at all. And I wouldn’t mind it if it was actually a substantive discussion addressing said points, but it’s amost entirely aspergian (the correct form of that word) snark and not particularly funny, insightful, or correct snark at that. Is replacing the word trope with tropic supposed to be funny, insightful, or accurate? How is it a counter-point or the Lord’s work?

Rather it seems kneejerk defensiveness attempting to fight a nonexistent phantom entirely with pathetically unfunny ad hominem attacks.

Put simply, Race thinks YJ is being attacked by a poster, has tied his selfworth to it and is defending it purely on a personal basis- attacking the poster / posting style- rather than addressing the contents of the post itself. Meanwhile, I’ve stated- repeatedly- that I enjoy the show and that only shows that strive for realism and which are so enjoyable are worth rewatching so carefully. Race can’t reconcile that concept which is on him.

That one cannot simultaneously recognize plot holes in Star Trek, Star Wars, Die Hard, The Matrix, or what not and enjoy them is a pretty simplistic point of view. Pointing them out neither diminishes my enjoyment and if it diminishes yours you can either elect not the read the post (as the disclaimer at the beginning suggests), grow in sophistication to be able to juggle both, or find plot-based reconcilation that addresses and fills the holes to your own satisfaction. However, going after the one who points them out on a personal level is immature and pointless.
RaceMcCloud says:

February 13, 2011 at 12:08 pm

Does anyone else notice the irony of some with 81 points of nitpicky criticism being so sensitive? Anyone? Anyone?
RaceMcCloud says:

February 13, 2011 at 12:08 pm

@EJ – Carry on, my son.
RaceMcCloud says:

February 13, 2011 at 12:09 pm

Typo! What I MEANT to say was, “Does anyone else notice the irony of someONE with 81 points of nitpicky criticism being so sensitive? Anyone? Anyone?”

My apologies!
Paul Montgomery (@fuzzytypewriter) says:

February 13, 2011 at 1:36 pm

Best episode yet!
RahUniQue says:

February 13, 2011 at 3:29 pm

@DrAwkward yay DrAwkward’s comments!!!!

@RaceMcCloud and now comments on comments!!!! yay! great stuff.
RahUniQue says:

February 13, 2011 at 3:41 pm

why is everyone fighting. this is all for fun. can’t we all get along?
WWest says:

February 13, 2011 at 4:01 pm

@DrAwkward Love the commentary tracks, keep them coming. Ignore the jerks.
RahUniQue says:

February 13, 2011 at 5:48 pm

@WWest I Agree.
RaceMcCloud says:

February 14, 2011 at 12:07 am

Listen, I’ll try to be fair here: were my 81 comments snarky and obnoxious? Yeah, they were. Sure, I’ll own up to that. But you know what? 81 nitpicky points on a 22 minute superhero cartoon are also obnoxious, I don’t care how many disclaimers you put in front of it.

Look, we all read comics. We get that there’s suspension of disbelief involved, we get that. We also all understand, for example, that it’s completely impossible to do with arrows what characters like Green Arrow/Red Arrow/Hawkeye ROUTINELY do with arrows. That’s part of the fun of superhero fiction: making the impossible, possible. So one post saying, “Hey, you can’t do that with arrows!” would have been enough to get that across, and fine and funny and whatever. But, like, 5 or 6 posts about that, whatever the total number was? In a list of 81 total criticisms? That’s beyond overkill, and it plays into the worst “comic book guy” stereotype of fans of this genre of work (a stereotype we’ve all been trying to shake forever) no matter what you say before you start.

The thing about it, though, is that @DrAwkward actually had some really good points in that list (I should know; I read them all), but they get obscured because he’s burying them in a list of 81. If he REALLY wanted to have conversations about plot holes, he could have listed 3 or 4 or 5. But to list 81? It reeks of condescending know-it-all-ism, which is a term I just made up.

@DrAwkward, you can do whatever you want and you can enjoy any cartoon show or comic book or anything however you like; I’ll admit that and I’ll retract that statement about how you should enjoy things. That’s your choice; points to you. But if you’re going to post up in a public forum your 81 tiny little nitpicks, you’ve gotta have thicker skin if somebody presents rebuttal in an unfunny, snarky, obnoxious manner. As, again, I did.

And @WWest, did you just call me a jerk? *CROTCH CHOP!*
Conor Kilpatrick (@cskilpatrick) says:

February 14, 2011 at 12:37 am

Good episode.

It would be really funny if Artemis was Terra.
EJ says:

February 14, 2011 at 12:49 am

@Conor- Didn’t Terra have a completely inappropriate relationship with Slade?
Conor Kilpatrick (@cskilpatrick) says:

February 14, 2011 at 12:57 am

@EJ indeed she did.
EJ says:

February 14, 2011 at 1:00 am

Gotta love chicks with issues…..subscriptions to issues.
WWest says:

February 14, 2011 at 3:03 pm

@RahUniQue You find it ironic that RaceMcCloud is chiding someone for a thin skin and posting style while being defensive and off-topic?

@DrAwkward Ignore RaceMcCloud. I got this.

@RaceMcCloud If the shoe fits. RTFM. You’re like a hypersensitive mom who watches South Park or Robot Chicken to make herself hysterical. Clearly it’s not for you. Some of us like details. DocAwk pegged you as defensive perfectly since you saw mere commentary as criticism, like your first three obnoxious replies.

Your defensive “attempt” to stop looking like a jerk doesn’t apply to the show or DocAwk’s comments. He specifically dismissed arrow trope discussion, plus you couldn’t walk away without calling him condescending and thin skinned. The shoe fits pretty well.

@conor I think the creators have said they want to cover new territory and since the Teen Titans animated series already covered that they will probably skip it. My theory is that Artemis as a traitor is a red-herring and that she has some other shameful secret. The real infiltrator will be all the technology Kid Flash keeps bringing into the Mountain. He kept the robot eye and now Cheshire’s mask. Or Robin’s cape could be covered in nanobots. Maybe they spy on the kids or infect Red Tornado for the late season reveal.
Conor Kilpatrick (@cskilpatrick) says:

February 14, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Okay, lots of people are being jerky and are close to going over the line so we’re just going to end this discussion right here.
WWest says:

February 14, 2011 at 3:22 pm

@conor More than happy to discuss the show rather than other people’s posts.

What made you think of Terra? The blonde girl joining the teen team with a traitor angle?
Conor Kilpatrick (@cskilpatrick) says:

February 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm

@WWest Yes, but my comment about it was totally a joke. I don’t think they’ll actually do that storyline.