Marvel has announced that they are prepping a live action Avengers movie!
I can’t believe that someone finally has the guts to try a big time, live action, super hero team movie featuring characters that are not at all the X-Men. The Fantastic Four doesn’t count.
It looks like the plan is to release an Iron Man movie, then a Captain America movie, then a Thor movie and then an Avengers movie. It seems The Avengers won’t be assembling until sometime around 2011.
On the one hand, it’s a smart move — you don’t have to worry about introducing the characters to the public and waste a lot of time on defining who, say, Captain America is. On the other hand, if those movies all bomb then we’re never going to see The Avengers on the big screen. Hell, if two of those movies bomb. Hell, if only one of those movies is a huge financial disaster we probably won’t see The Avengers. This is a ballsy move by Marvel Studios.
I’ll believe this movie when the first day of principal photography starts, is what I’m saying. But I’ll be damned if I’m not excited about the prospect!
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writer of Elektra, The Incredible Hulk, X2, X3….
Hunh.
It makes sense, I personally think the last few years have been the Avengers’ strongest.
I guess Ultimate Avengers isn’t doing it.
Now, it will be interesting to see how this works out. I’ll let you know in 5 years.
writer of Elektra, The Incredible Hulk, X2, X3….
yeah Zak Penn. Who, from every interview I read about X3, was really hurt that he didn’t get writers credit for X2. I don’t know, I mean Elektra was awful and X3 was disappointing. So I’m actually bummed, I know it’s about holding out until we actually see something, but I don’t know, the track record can speak for itself.
This movie will never get made! Iron Man could be a successful movie. Captain America will not be that exciting. Thor will bomb. Also, by the time that the movie is ready to be made then the super hero movie excitment will have worn off or have been ran into the ground. That with the cost will force this idea into development hell. Not trying to be negative, but it is my guess. However, the Ultimate Avengers cartoon was kinda cool.
Captain America will not be that exciting.
Read the script, have you?
I don’t see how a team this big could ever be made into a movie. If this is going to be a reality (which I guess is possible now) I want the Iron Man who will be in Faverau’s movie to be in this Avengers. I don’t want to have two actors for the same character. If Hulk is in it, the same goes for him.
Personally, I’m satisfied with the 2 Ultimate Avengers DVDs. This is a big risk for Marvel than a single hero film. If you nail one character prefectly, another character may not get enough screen time or be portrayed in the totally wrong way.
Get ready for some more black leather suits, fanboys!
I don’t see how a team this big could ever be made into a movie. If this is going to be a reality (which I guess is possible now)
The original Avengers lineup had five members. It doesn’t have to be a big, sprawling team.
I want the Iron Man who will be in Faverau’s movie to be in this Avengers. I don’t want to have two actors for the same character. If Hulk is in it, the same goes for him.
That seems to be the intention.
Oh no… Do you think they’d leatherize Capt?
I’m still waiting for like an R rated Ultimates.
I don’t care what they’re wearing, as long as it makes sense, and they get the generalities of the character correct. And sometimes, leather makes sense. It made sense in the X-Men, and it made sense in Daredevil. Spandex makes no sense. And even in the case of Captain America, chain mail might be hard to pull off in real life.
Who Wants to be a Superhero is a pretty good example of why traditional comic costumes look silly in real life.
Whenever I think about the slate of Marvel of movies, the one I worry most about translating to the screen is Captain America. Partly because he’s my fav character, mostly ’cause I can’t envision a portrayal that isn’t, well, cheesy.
I totally can see where the tech angle of Iron Man and even the fantasy-ish God among men of Thor could work, but whenever I picture someone in a Cap uniform…yikes, I just cringe. They could write up a good script, no doubt–man out of time, Bourne-style espionage and hand-to-hand combat–but I keep seeing the red-white-and-blue sticking out, all sore-thumb-y, undermining everything else. Maybe someone out there is more optimistic, and can talk me off the proverbial ledge? I’m willing to listen.
I have not read the entire Captain America script, but have done some research. I was not saying that I would not watch it, but I think that the majority of the movie going public will not find it that exciting. The same goes for Thor. No matter how much fanboys love these characters, we can not make a movie a blockbuster.
I have not read the entire Captain America script, but have done some research. I was not saying that I would not watch it, but I think that the majority of the movie going public will not find it that exciting. The same goes for Thor.
Got any links to back these assertions up?
No matter how much fanboys love these characters, we can not make a movie a blockbuster.
This is certainly true. There are just not enough of us to matter, financially.
Well, the Spider-Man suit worked.
I know you can’t always use spandex but maybe an Ultimate-esque outfit would work for Capt…
I also agree with the WWTBASH comment, but then again, I think Feedback has the best costume.
Here is my number one reason for downplaying the Captian America movie for the general public:
This quote was from Avi Arad on 02/23/06:
“Without giving too much away, obviously there’ll be a little bit of the origin and then we come into our real world,” Arad recently disclosed. “What makes Captain America such a compelling character is that it allows you to judge history so you see where he came from and you see what he stood for. This script is going to take a little bit of time, because it has to be a masterpiece. It’s BACK TO THE FUTURE kind of stuff.”
Now that being said, I believe that the general public will not care about the back story thus they will not care about the entire movie. Its the history lesson he talked about in the quote that will be downfall. However, heard David Self is the man writing the movie. He did well on The Road To Perdition.
A couple more points:
Do you think that the 18-25yr old market will go see Captain America? I know that a lot of this depends on the script/story and the actors attached to the movie. If the story is strong then the movie could do well, but I think that there is a lot of room for cheese to make its way into the script. I hope not, but we have seen great characters go the way of “Batman and Robin”.
Also, there is the villian. Do you think that the Red Skull will be translated well and look good? If not Red Skull, who? However, maybe they will use the Winter Solider story as a template. Many fanboys might be angry, but it could work.
I found my quote from Avi Arad on http://www.ifmagazine.com for a article written on 02/23/06.
the problem is getting past comic fans. I know some of my friends who loved the X-men/Spider-Man/Hulk and Batman films, said to me “Do you hear they’re making a Captain America movie? That won’t work.” Because alot of none comic fans don’t know about the character beyound the WW2 stuff. I try to explain “well he froze in ice and was unfrozen.” And they just stair at me, I think it’ll be hard to get this to the average movie goer. I know I’ll be there, because Cap is one of my favorite characters, and if it’s a good film, I don’t care, it’s not a faliure to me if I have a great film to add to my collection, but in terms of $$$ it might be harder to get a success
Now that being said, I believe that the general public will not care about the back story thus they will not care about the entire movie. Its the history lesson he talked about in the quote that will be downfall. However, heard David Self is the man writing the movie. He did well on The Road To Perdition…. I found my quote from Avi Arad on http://www.ifmagazine.com for a article written on 02/23/06.
I think you’re basing a lot of your opinion on a quote by the producer of a movie that hasn’t even been written yet. Why do you think the general public will not care about the backstory? Because World War II doesn’t resonate with people?
Making a Captain America film is definitely the riskiest move that Marvel’s new film division is making because, as you said, there’s a high cheese factor (mostly in the costume) that works okay on the page but not so much in real life.
You are right, I am basing everything on my opinion of the general public. But, my opinion is based on what has been said about the movie. People like WWII fact based movies. This is not a fact based WWII movie.
The post from Cameron is right, the average person is not gonna like the frozen and unfrozen bit. And this bit is the most important part of the comic book character. I do not think that people are going to identify with the character, thus not care about the movie.
I want this movie to succeed, so we can get a Avengers movie. Hell, I watched Elektra and wanted that to succeed. But studios have to play to the general public.
ANY major superhero movie has a high cheese factor, and saying that this movie will not appeal to a mass market because the origin part of the story is set in WWII is pretty rediculous. The backdrop for the movie is not a factor that will determine the success or quality of the film, for example, high fantasy as a movie genre never achieved commercial success, yet look at the success of LotR.
Wow, lots of iFanboys gunning for Hypothetical Captain America. Personally, I suspect by the time Tim “Taxi” Story finishes filming a guy in a Galactus suit like something out of a Godzilla movie, Captain America is gonna come across like Hemingway in comparison.
The Living Legend of WWII, when good was good and evil was evil, wakes up in a world of gray areas that left him behind? Now he has to fight his battles in a world where it’s hard to know who the good guys are? America would step over your grandma to watch that movie. I can’t wait to see it, and I think I may have just written the pitch. I mean, hell, as long as he isn’t frozen by Schwarzenegger in blue body paint you’re all set.
The Living Legend of WWII, when good was good and evil was evil, wakes up in a world of gray areas that left him behind? Now he has to fight his battles in a world where it’s hard to know who the good guys are? America would step over your grandma to watch that movie.
I’m with you – this movie practically writes itself.
The trick will be walking a fine political line because the same people screaming on a certain cable news network about how unAmerican Revenge of the Sith and Superman Returns were will have seizures on the air if they think that a character called Captain America does not toe the proper party line.
The trick will be walking a fine political line because the same people screaming on a certain cable news network about how unAmerican Revenge of the Sith and Superman Returns were will have seizures on the air if they think that a character called Captain America does not toe the proper party line.
Along those same lines, I cannot believe that Ed Brubaker’s Cap has been fighting neo-Nazis and Soviets for the entire run. Soviets! Do you have any idea what I would be doing right now if I had the rights to Captain America in this political climate? (Answer: losing all of Marvel’s money by dividing the reading audience.)
It’s always safe to hate on the commies.
While I have voiced my negative views on the success of Captain America, I have to say that I agreed with Conor’s post. If Captain America is forced to fight battles in the gray area of today, then it will stir up Fox News. It this movie caused any kind of controversy, then it would be a great success. People would line up to protest, then people would line up to buy tickets. Protesting any movie equals dollars to the studio.