They’ve released more still photos from X-Men 3, and while I understand that things look differently in still form then they do while moving, some of these are not very good.
Our favorite comic book loving lass Toga pointed us to this gallery.
What the hell did they do to Colossus?
The more I see of this movie, the less I like it. And that’s a bad sign because once they announced Brett Ratner, I pretty much wrote the movie off.
It’s going to be interesting seeing this with Ron, the uber X-fan.
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I must say i like most of those pictures. I agree with you on colossus what the hell happened to him and why does he have demon eyes? However, the Juggernaut looks supremely bad ass. Im gonna go ahead and say that conor you are wrong about the movie, it will be good you just lack faith my boy.
I agree Colossus looks like the tin man or something, but I like the other pictures.
I really liked Colossus’s look in X2. It seems as though they’ve altered it slightly here and it looks like metallic sinew or something.
I dunno.
I’m obviously in the minority about these pics.
But, thats… oh… kay.
I have no faith in this director.
Colossus looks really strange. Like he’s got a mask on. I don’t like.
Juggy doesn’t look as bad as he seemed in the trailer. I like watching Vinnie Jones talk, so that could go either way.
Also, Logan seems to get some action with Jean I think. It might be “bad” Jean, but it’s Jean.
I hope that Colussus’s eyes are CGIed out, or that is going to suck hard. Weren’t his eyes CGIed out in X2?
I know most of them are rumors, but I’ve heard a lot of really bad plot points from an earlier draft of the script.
I dunno. I never liked the whole “introduce-a-villian-and-kill-them-off-in-the-same-movie” plot point. So, killing Lady Deathstrike, possibly some of the Brotherhood, and so forth, really gets on my nerves.
Buy, beyond that, I really am kinda nervous about this movie. I really liked the X-Men movie, and X2 was really nice, too, but from what I’ve been reading, this is it. After X3, there will be not much else lesft to salvage.
We’ll see. I’m apprehensive. Just like with Superman Returns. For every Batman Begins and Spider-Man, there is a Daredevil or Punisher.
posters are out:
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/archives/2006/02/new_xmen_posters.html
This is kinda funny.
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=22441
What’s with the little pink, Beast vest? Rough.
Here’s something for those skepticists, thinking of NOT seeing the movie: Go see it anyway. It’s not going to be a daredevil or punisher (which, once taken with a grain of salt, really aren’t all THAT bad.) It’s the X-men, and we all wanna see more hollywood comic book films, right? Support the industry. Even if we must have a trial and error period of films, there will eventually be a treasure amongst them.
yeah spidermav! testify!
First of all, Daredevil was that bad. I actually like The Punisher more than most people seem to.
Second of all, I don’t think anyone is planning on not seeing X3, but to say that you have to support bad comic book movies simply because they are comic book movies is dead wrong. The only thing supporting bad comic book movies gets you is more bad comic book movies. It’s the same principle with bad comics, bad TV, bad movies, bad anything. If you continue to throw your money at it, they will keep making them.
Support what industry? The movie industry? Comic book movies (good or bad) don’t do shit for the comic book industry.
First, Daredevil could have been an Elektra. So thank God we didn’t get TWO of those.
And I’m not saying necessarily saying that you should support bad comic book movies. Hell, I avoid bad movies all the time. But i’m speaking more on a relative term to the X-men movie series. The last two were good, right? An example of a good comic book movie. And we all know how much the ‘Nick Fury ‘ move is hated around here, and I’m not saying “oh man, go see the sequel!!”. What i’m trying to say is that you shouldn’t disregard X-men JUST yet. It has a foundation to build off of, and it can already go either way, but with this movie, take it with a grain of salt.
And it sure as hell supports the industry. You cannot honestly say that X-men, or Spider-Man 2 didn’t turn SOME people onto the comics. And transitively, the money goes to Marvel and allows them to make more books…and hey, like I said before, even if they publish ‘The Other’, we will always get a gem, such as Bendis’ Daredevil or ‘The Ultimates’
I urge all of you to see the Daredevil Director’s cut. OMG, what a better movie.
And, thought I despise the comicbook character, I enjoyed The Punisher movie. I own it, as a matter of fact.
The posters do NOT imspire any type of confidence in this movie. Escpecially if you put it next to the Rent poster.
*head/desk*
*head/desk*
*head/desk*
Why is it the MTV directors seem to show up on these movies about three in? Next up: neon lights and feather bowas. I can’t wait until they put nibbles on the Beast’s uniform. Or Wolverine’s.
And, sorry, I’m not buying the “go see it so they’ll make more.” More crap is just more crap, folks. I’m all for voting with my dollar, so I’m voting that Hollywood STOP MAKING CRAP MOVIES!
Thank you.
You honestly think that Hollywood will ever STOP making crappy movies? It’s been in the industry for 60 years and we’re still getting crap like ‘Rent’ and ‘When a Stranger Calls’.
Toga, you say ‘I’m all for voting with my dollar, so I’m voting that Hollywood STOP MAKING CRAP MOVIES!’. How do you know if it’s crap or not yet, if it’s only in post-production and editing? We have trailer and cast list to go off of. And you gotta understand, that different mindsets review things differently. The AP movie reviewers may disregard X3 as a comic movie, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, but it may be different for those of us who actually read the comics (Although, this may not be the case; the media also hated the theatrical cut of Daredevil)
In conclusion, we cannot disregard judgement yet, until A) A mass of reviews have come out -or- B) We’ve seen it ourselves.
First, Daredevil could have been an Elektra. So thank God we didn’t get TWO of those.
I didn’t see Elektra. It did not get my money. See how that works?
And it sure as hell supports the industry. You cannot honestly say that X-men, or Spider-Man 2 didn’t turn SOME people onto the comics.
I honestly don’t. And we’ve asked retailers about it.
What i’m trying to say is that you shouldn’t disregard X-men JUST yet. It has a foundation to build off of, and it can already go either way, but with this movie, take it with a grain of salt.
So did Batman Forever and Superman III.
You honestly think that Hollywood will ever STOP making crappy movies? It’s been in the industry for 60 years and we’re still getting crap like ‘Rent’ and ‘When a Stranger Calls’.
If people go see them, they will keep making them. Rent is a different case because the source material is excellent, so you would expect that that would result in a better movie. But apparently it didn’t. These things happen. Usually to Alan Moore.
How do you know if it’s crap or not yet, if it’s only in post-production and editing? We have trailer and cast list to go off of.
I’m going off of the fact that Brett Ratner has made only one film that I have found to be watchable, and that one had no action in it whatsoever. It’s up to him to prove me wrong. He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from me.
Again, I plan on seeing it.
I would have to disregard the idea that in order to make a judgemnt on a movie, we have to wait for one of those things. I can usually tell a movie is crappy before I go see it. Sometimes, I’m wrong, but my years of experience have taught me a thing or two. And it’s nice when I’m wrong. For example, I’m a Daredevil apologist. I liked the movie, quite a bit. I was sure it would be terrible, but I had fun. I’ve watched it since, and there are parts of it I really like. But for example, when Batman and Robin came out, I didn’t need to go see it, or even see any reviews to know I wasn’t going to like it.
However, using the information I have to go on with this movie, I’m making the call that it will bad not so good. It might be good, and I’ll probably go see it, but instead of showing up that first night, I’ll wait a bit, and see if I really want to go or not. From my point of view, Brett Ratner is not a director who’s done anything I’ve ever liked, and that’s where I’ve based my judgement. I’ve heard bad things about the script, and blah blah blah, but Ratner really is the killer for me.
And, again, I’m going to have to go with the vote with your dollar theory. Hollywood won’t stop making bad movies, but they might not make as many bad comic book movies. Conversely, we have to show up in great numbers for good comic book movies. I wish more people had gone to see Ghost World and American Splendor.
As far as the comics industry benefitting from the movies, yes they did. BUT, that didn’t manifest itself in any way that made my comic books better. Some of the investors, and Joe Quesada made a lot of money from the Spider-Man movie, but the comics didn’t get better, and more people didn’t read them. Comics stayed the same through this whole comic movie boom of the last however many years. Batman Begins was great, but the Batman comics didn’t get any better, and the comic sales didn’t go up, so what has that done for comics, rather than boost the bottom lines of the companies who own those copyrights?
conor was more organized than I.
RE Conor:
I’ll concede the Batman Forever and Superman III points. You win this time!
RE Josh:
See, your point with already having a feelig of dread surrounding Batman and Robin furthers a point. You knew you weren’t going to like it, so you didn’t go see it. However, concerning X3, everyone is going to go see it with a bad taste on their pallete, thus it will transitively affect their movie viewing experience (For example, had I not read the reviews for certain comics or games, I probably wouldn’t have regretted that purchase.)
The comic industry benefits, but not the comics themselves. And that’s because they are two seperate entities. When a movie comes out, the books are probably already deeply into a storyline (I currently have NO examples for this, seeing as how I didn’t start reading comics until post-batman begins). And I would bet money that a few more people started buying comics after seeing the movies. That’s all it takes, isn’t it? One little ‘Apple-dropping-on-the-head’ to spur a person down a certain path? The sad fact is, the whole comics culture is viewed as a 1980’s stereotype, thus more people don’t find themselves getting into it. I know that until Spider-Man 2, I had no interest in comics. It’s like a point that was brought up in the podcast (The Gotham Central #40 one, I believe), wherein no matter what, people will still continue to read normal generic airport novels over comic books. It’s just the way it is. Not many people are open to this culture, in a society where a public image is so important.
As for what’s it’s impact on the comic’s themselves, it’s true that it hasn’t done much. That is because, like I previously stated, the two mediums are in different worlds. I don’t think a director/script writer could swap with a comic writer and editor and achieve the same results. It’s rather sad, actually.
I really didn’t think I was going to like Daredevil, but I did. Sometimes, it’s best when you expect nothing, because if it does anything good at all, you’re pleasantly surprised.
I would say that some people started reading comics after seeing some of these movies, but compared to the number of people who bought the DVD, for example, it’s a drop in the bucket. Ask any comic retailer what the long term effect on comic book sales is following a movie like that, and they’ll tell you “not much.” I’m guessing the sales of trades spike, a little. They don’t even do movie versions of comics anymore. They used to always put out a comic version of whatever comic movie was coming out, but they don’t even do that anymore, because it’s not worth it. And they usually suck, so there you go.
Now a compliment. For someone who hasn’t been reading comics that long, you’ve got a good handle on it. You could have fooled me.
Thanks Josh. My exact time that I began was halfway through House of M…like, a week before Crisis. I make it a duty to read up on a subject or interest before I even think about voicing an opinon.
And, contrary to the subject of comic book adaptations of comic book movies (Which, in truth is redundant; why not just re-print a trade of the base story? That would probably help all forms of comic book media) theres actually been adaptations of all the past movies; Spider-Man 2, Fantastic Four, Batman Begins. It’s almost a waste of money if you really think about it. And of course comic sales don’t have a lasting spike post-movie releases, because, as you all have discussed, it’s a huge amount of effort and dedication to read comic books. Going weekly, spending 20 dollars or so; this is a huge amount of RELATIVE sacrifices for most people in this day and age. In this day and age, it’s kind of hard for people to make a strong dedication to something; people aren’t as open to change as society once was. It’s sad really; it’s a relatively a small industry, yet a powerfully artistic one. If a normal person were to delve into a GOOD comic book series (Not alot of the recent stuff, but stuff like ‘Y the Last Man’, ‘Jonah Hex’, ‘Gotham Central’, or some of JMS’ early Spider-Man run) one would find a multitude of excellent, compelling writing, beautiful stylistic art, and all in all, true form of entertainment. And hell, it’s fun to read too! I think that with this rising of comic book films, it can gain mass media attention, more than ever before (Hell, Spider-Man is now a household name). With these tiny little pushes, we’ll eventually go into a renaissance of comic book writing and art. It’ll be the 70’s and 80’s all over again (Minus the horrendous clothes, but with a stronger push in global paranoia!)
I’m not disguarding it, spidermav, but I don’t have a lot of hope for it. I’m back to the same level of disreguard for it that I had with the first movie – and I was ever so glad to be proven wrong.
And I will hold on to hope that Hollywood will figure out that the reason that they’re not getting the viewership and money that they think they should because they’re making way too many crap movies.
I think the thing that pisses me off is Colossus was done right in the last movie. All that needs to be done is to do that again! How hard is that?
I think the thing that pisses me off is Colossus was done right in the last movie. All that needs to be done is to do that again! How hard is that?
That’s what gets to me, too.
Change for change sake or change simply because “I”m the new director and this is how he should look” sucks.
Change for change sake or change simply because “I”m the new director and this is how he should look” sucks.
Amen. This can also be seen in comics! For example, JMS took over Spider-Man and gave him a damn ‘mystical’ spider back ground. Nobody wanted that.
Nobody.
Change for change sake or change simply because “I”m the new director and this is how he should look” sucks.
Frankly, it’s the same fear I hold for Superman. I love Singer for his story telling ability, but I’m not entirely sure picking up where the other movies left off is the best of idea.
For example, JMS took over Spider-Man and gave him a damn ‘mystical’ spider back ground. Nobody wanted that.
Amen! I never understood why JMS did that (other than change for change sake). While I believe that any story is viable, but taking a character who’s based in science and give him a mystical aspect seems difficult at best.
I think that, sadly, the best comics that COULD be made into a movie never are.
For example — X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman and Superman. All examples of pretty good comic book movie franchises. All four books have an at least 40+ year history. They are rich with characters, nuances of past storylines, hits and misses, crossovers with other properties, and their own personal histories, retcons, and revisions. So, Hollywood has to make their own version of a particular mythos — usually taking some of what they feel to be the best “hits” of the comic’s past, and rolling it all up into a smorgasborg — then adding the Hollywood formulas of the sterotypical heroes, villans, and women; plotlines; and possible cliffhangers. They also never seem to make it within the realm of possibility for a crossover to occur (which may or may not be feasable for the movie franchise anyway — although it would be nice to have the option). These movies come with whatever amount of sucess is needed to garner a few sequels . . . and then you get the “rotating star syndrome” — see Batman. And then the franchise runs itself into the ground — see Batman and Superman #s 3 & 4. Then a reboot — see Batman Begins — or a movie retcon — see Superman Returns. Then the cycle starts all over again.
Instead, why not make movies of limited series, or shorter run graphic novels. Two stories I think would make an excellent movie would be “Empire” by Mark Waid and Barry Kitson and “H-E-R-O” by Will Pfiefer. I know Empire is a contained series, and would be a really interesting concept for a movie.
http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=3917
I’m not sure if H-E-R-O ever went beyond the first trade, but just the first arc would be enough for a really nice movie.
http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=1364
I’m sure there are other books, especially Indy, that could easily warrant a really nice movie. I really enjoyed the Hellboy movie, myself, and that most assuredly got me hooked on about five Hellboy trades.
Hollywood is always going to make crap, as long as studios beleive they have to cater to the lowest common denominator. I don’t know how to fix that. I agree that if more people had gone to see Ghost World and American Splendor, maybe we would be having a different discussion here.
Every now and then there is a rose on top of the shit pile. But by the time you’ve climbed to the top of the heap, you’re so covered in shit yourself you can’t enjoy the rose.
talk about creepy:
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/archives/2006/02/new_juggernaut_photo.html