Tonight’s episode – Omega
Amazing
Laughter man
A compelling villain
No longer impaled!
Thank god, he’s finally here
Urbane
Dinosaurs, plastic
Yay!
Knife skills
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Tonight’s episode – Omega
Amazing
Laughter man
A compelling villain
No longer impaled!
Thank god, he’s finally here
Urbane
Dinosaurs, plastic
Yay!
Knife skills
Hee! Love the Tudyk.
Too bad he didn’t show up halfway through the season.
I love how they say "viewer discretion is advised" in a salacious voice. *sighs*
"Dug it out of her" Yeesh.
Anyone else just check the scruff of their neck for an imbedded GPS strip? Just me? Okay.
Okay. Looks like his imprints are mixing like crazy. This is definitely not Caroline’s imprint. At least, I don’t think so.
I think these imprints came out of a country song.
Why do I not know who he’s torturing?
Oh cool, they’re Bonnie and Clyde. Fun stuff.
I think this guy hired them to kidnap and torture him, and it got out of hand.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Whoa, was that Fred?
Well that was… interesting.
I think Amy Acker and Alan Tudyk kidnapping me is one of my fantasies now too.
Ha, my friend called from the beginning that she’d turn out to be a former active. (If she and Dushku didn’t look so much alike, it would have been a smoother reveal.)
@Paul. I’m guessing Nathan Fillion is part of that fantasy too?
Now I’m trying to figure out who I’d hire to kidnap me.
@Anson – Let’s throw Christina Hendricks and Charisma Carpenter in there for good measure.
That’s identity theft!
And now we’re done talking about the show and have moved into celebrity sex fantasies. That didn’t take long.
@Paul What’s Kristen Bell doing while this is going on?
@ohcaroline. Hopefully she’s with me.
@Caroline – She shows up to save me.
Awww. . . Victor! I do hope we get some closure with him and Sierra.
Okay "I’m not my best anymore" is kind of a heartbreaker here. I almost thought he had a glasgow smile for a second.
Did they implant Claire with a doctor identity because she was scarred? Cool.
WOAH. you get to see the dollhouse before you sign up?
So…let’s see..Alpha’s gonna kill the Doctor, scar Claire, and then they give Claire the doctor identity permanently, giving her knowledge of actives and self awareness. That’s kind of neat.
Hope Dollhouse comes back for another season!
You can’t stop the signal! savethedollhouse.com
I know I’m alone in liking Topher, but the birthday thing a couple episodes ago was great.
Damn, the whole November/Ballard thing kills me.
@Paul. That’s more than neat. It’s really damn clever. Makes for a cool reveal too.
alan tudyk is great but i still see walsh
Heheh. Watch your step. Why is people taking things literal always funny to me?
Sierra only has badass personas like bounty hunters and federal agents. Variety is the spice of life.
Tudyk is doing an awesome creepy job
I wonder how many gigs an imprint takes up.
I like Alpha’s shirt.
"He’s like soylent green. He’s people."
48 personalities? Who thought that was a good idea? Who?
Holy shit. Alpha destroyed himself? Epic.
@Anson – *adjusts nerd glasses*
According to the Caprica pilot/feature, a brain can only store 300 MB of data.
Woah. He’s gonna make caroline watch him kill her own body… or something like that.
Thanks professor Montgomery.
Any time, sport.
"The wrongness of this is so large" That was cringeworthy, at least for me.
I’m actually symapthizing/agreeing with Alpha in this scene
I still can’t figure out who Echo’s body is imprinted with. Are they both imprinted with Caroline? The one in echo’s body just seems so much less smart than the other one.
ok not so much anymore
@Anson I think Echo’s imprint here is the one Claire had in the flashback scene.
ok.. um, How long do you think it took Tudyk to get down the vacant serial killer stare?
jesus
Is it just me or does Topher seem a lot more calm and collected in these flashback scenes? Except for, ya know, when Alpha is pushing that guys eyes in.
topher = alpha’s orginal personality?
So Alpha’s got a God complex thing going on? Cool.
Surprisingly, didn’t see that coming.
I may have to rewatch this heh.
Okay, that was cool. Maybe that’s what they’ve been building up to. All these imprints we’ve met combine to make Echo into someone who knows enough to control her own destiny.
They telegraphed that one.
Cheese on Cracker! Sorry I’m latr!
Frankenstein’s monster was constructed from the organs of criminals. Cool parallel.
@Paul Not to me, but I’m a little drunk and I wasn’t really paying attention.
HAHAH. "One of my personalities is a multiple personality, but that doesn’t make me a multiple personality."
Supermen of the mind and not the body. Interesting.
I feel like a wardrobe malfunction is a clearand present danger.
Has he mentioned Alexander the Great yet? I hope he mentions Alexander the Great.
The psychological aspects of this show are the best parts. They’re great even when the stories and characters don’t always hit the mark.
Cool. His MO carried over to his uberpersona.
Haha, love the mannequins in the background.
I dunno, if Alpha’s just a psychotic nutbar, what’s the point?
@Paul For Nietzsche the philosopher, The Ubermench was a mental state. As Zarathustra reminds us, "Of all evil, I deem you capabble, Therfore, I desire the good from you.
ok… the black president thing was a bit ridiculous.
Denis Leary Hulu ad equals BEST THING EVER.
Agreed, Caroline. He needs to Guest on CASTLE.
Yeah, it’s refreshing in the sense that most ubermensch depictions are of the Khan variety, emphasis on the physical.
@ohcaroline. It is pretty amazing.
@Anson – Yeah, that line sucked.
AHA! Whikey 1.1. That’s who echo had in her head to start with.
Alan doesn’t know how to hold a gun.
Rinse and spit *cringe*
"I’m bluffing! But the rest of us mean business." Love the different thoughts going on when he spazzes like that.
Oh, Tim Minear wrote this ep? That explains a lot. (Not much of a Tim Minear fan).
@Paul. Yeah, that one too.
So she’s the insider?
Ok, so she wasn’t self aware. I was close.
@Paul She just figured it out?
anyone know this song?
TWIST!
LOLLIPOPS!
Odd music choice
So, umm, I was possibly looking the other way. What happened to Alpha?
I suck at this.
Hell of a way to end a season.
I obviously need to watch that again. But I think even if they renew this show, I’m not watching anymore.
@Caroline – Sober up!
Well, it’s been fun. Hopefully, I’ll see you all next season. Definitely crossing my fingers on that one.
I’m serious. I totally missed the climax, though I blame disinterest rather than beer. Shouldn’t try to blog and watch TV at once.
@Caroline – Alpha got away. I think Claire figured it out, though latent memories probably played a role. She hacked into Topher’s computer to verify her suspicions.
Okay, then i didn’t miss anything! Just didn’t realize that was the climax. I thought November must have gotten him and that’s why they let her go.
Maybe the doctor is tophers sister, or that friend he programs every year. I actually want this to get another season. i want to see what they do with alpha next season
@ohcaroline – Um, Tim Minear wrote Out Of Gas, not to mention he worked on Wonderfalls. Also, I recommend meeting and talking to the man about his work. You’d see how bright and creative he is. Witness exhibit A: http://www.sofadogs.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=443489
Exhibit B: http://www.sofadogs.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=444139
I loved the episode, I think Topher has something huge coming soon, if the series continues. Alan Tudyk has been doing a wicked job and is my favorite character so far. Curse work for making me miss the live blogs.
While I realize that Alpha seems to be a sneaky and physically fit cat, the two former law enforcers, who both have vested interests in members of the Dollhouse, let the main physical threat to the Dollhouse and its members very slowly get away? Is Alpha the Big Daddy of this show, who we will see returning week in and week out? I was mostly with the episode up until this point. Even DeWitt is kinda like "Meh, Ballard’ll get around to it."
@Clammo
Apparently the scene in which Ballard and Boyd attempt to capture him is deleted.
So if that’s all she wrote are we happy with this as an ending?
I so want this show to come back. I liked it from the first episode, but every week I liked it more and more. And the last 2 episodes have been just KILLER TV. Here’s hoping for a season two!
@Johnpavlich Please don’t assume I’m not familiar with the guy’s work just because I don’t agree with your assessment of it.
@ohcaroline: fear not! Johnpavlich began his post with "Um," meaning you don’t have to listen to anything he says after that.
@ohcaroline – Fair enough. I was just making sure. Joss and Tim’s writing feels extremely similar to me, so liking one and not the other doesn’t make much sense, but to each their own. If it’s not your bag, then so be it.
@jimski – Well, excuse me for fucking breathing. Sheesh.
@johnpavlich I’m not denying Minear’s a talented writer, but he tends to get into thematic territory that I don’t personally like very much, ie, the ranting serial killer Alpha in this episode. I think he also wrote the Echo-kidnapped-by-cult episode of ‘Dollhouse’ ep this season, which creeped me out so much I almost couldn’t watch it. Doesn’t mean he’s not good, or that I don’t appreciate any of his contributions to ‘Angel’ and ‘Firefly.’ Just, his name on an episode doesn’t really make me enthused.
Peter David’s summation of the first season pretty much nails every issue I have with it. Well-said, PAD:
http://www.peterdavid.net/index.php/2009/05/09/cowboy-pete-plays-with-dollhouse/
@jimski. um… Brilliant.
@ohcaroline – Yeah, I totally get that. The Inside is one of the most dark and disturbing television shows I’ve seen. It’s like Se7en: The Series. I dig it, but it’s an aquired taste. Perhaps Drive would be more fitting? It’s got Nathan Fillion, and who doesn’t love that guy?
@Anson17 – Why encourage this? Next thing you know, I’ll be dismissed for using the word, "Dude". I mean seriously, I’m cast aside as someone to be ignored because I decided to type two letters? I’m sorry. I thought iFanboy was a place where people could express themselves openly and honestly within friendly discussions about comics and other forms of popular culture. I didn’t realize I had to go over my text with a fine-toothed comb.
I like it here, and I often recommend this site to others who want to talk comics and the like without fear of judgement or snobbery. I even link to iFanboy often at Whedonesque. I guess I’m just not articulate enough to hang with the in crowd. My apologies. My "ums" and I will be on our way.
Thanks a lot, jimski. Thanks for making me feel this small, when all I wanted to do was share an opinion/suggestion about a writer I admired.
The implication that I get when I read "um" at the beginning of a comment is that the commenter is assuming that the statement they’re responding to was uninformed (which, in fact, was supported by the rest of your comment). That may not have been what you intended me to infer, but that is how "Um" comments can come across, and in this case, how it did.
@johnpavlich, 90% of the time a commenter using "Um" to begin a post is being sarcastic, condescending, or both. Example:
Nice person: Boy howdy, I sure don’t care for that Joss Whedon.
Jerkwad: Um, hello? Ever heard of a show called Firefly? Um, only the greatest show ever.
It’s possible that this highly inflammatory interpretation is unfamiliar to you, in which case I apologize for the misunderstanding. The law of averages, though, suggests that everybody knew what they were saying.
@ohcaroline – It wasn’t what I intended. I really was just saying, "Um". I sometimes say it out loud before a sentence because I’m thinking. It’s like when a computer makes that quiet, playing-card-in-spokes noise because it’s processing information.
@jimski – Apology accepted. Misunderstandings do happen. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. To bring things away from all my idiosyncrasies and back on topic: What are your thoughts on the possibilities of a second season for Dollhouse?
Personally, I feel the same way about it that I do with Terminator. The season ended on a really interesting note, ripe with possibilities to take things in fascinating and captivating directions, so while renewal doesn’t seem likely, I try to remain optimistic.
Loved the entire episode, but the line about Obama made me cringe.
@johnpavlich Is fine, knowing is half the battle, etc. But it probably is worth bearing in mind that if somebody knows enough about a second tier TV-writer to have an opinion about his work, she’s also probably pretty familiar with it. But so much for that.
Re: renewal, I appreciate Dollhouse because it’s introduced me to some performers I hope to enjoy following in the future (Harry Lennix + Victor and Sierra whose names I don’t know!), and let me watch some actors I already knew I enjoyed (Olivia Williams, Reed Diamond, Alan Tudyk, Mark Sheppard). Plus I’m hoping the show-runners (the ones below Joss who did the work) got some good experience out of it. And I look forward to seeing a lot of these people in the future, working on better shows. Probably on cable. So — no, I actively don’t want it to get renewed at this point. That’s not to say a new season couldn’t be good, but it would be a hard sell for me to give this premise any more chances.
Looks like DOLLHOUSE has been renewed.
Finally watched this.
It kinda bored me. I’m not sure it’s staying on my DVR list next season.
Joss Whedon talks DOLLHOUSE season two.