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May 22, 2013 6:21 pm I like that as an explanation although I still don't think it's fair to say that lying was what resulted in their victory. It's a factor, but was that really the deciding factor? I'd argue no on that. Khan says "so much the better" and pursues the enterprise even after having recognized that he had been lied to about their repairs. Ultimately he just gets outmaneuvered in that nebula and defeated in ship to ship combat.
May 22, 2013 6:20 pm I like that as an explanation although I still do think it's fair to say that lying was what resulted in their victory. It's a factor, but was that really the deciding factor? I'd argue no on that. Khan says "so much the better" and pursues the enterprise even after having recognized that he had been lied to about their repairs.
May 21, 2013 5:48 pm Ugh... just realized that I'm reminded of the way that Lost worked... lots of "wouldn't it be cool if X happened" thrown in the show, with nothing tying up into anything satisfying (also known as a good ending). Keeping my fingers crossed for Star Wars !
May 21, 2013 5:46 pm I really enjoyed your review and podcast. I agreed with a lot of what you guys thought about the movie. If anything, I think that it should be taking more heat than it is. A lot is forgiven due to the great actors and interaction between the crew. I was LOVING this movie about halfway in, and then it really fell apart. Unfortunately, it's a movie where the more I think about it, the worse it gets. The problem for me is that they had some really cool ideas for a plot, but it doesn't come together into anything that makes sense. The more I thought about it the more things came up that seemed way off. I really don't think it's a generational thing, or that use of Wrath of Khan for inspiration is much of an issue. It's just that things that make no sense are a problem. A bunch of examples: 1) Why does Khan flee to the Klingon homeworld? There's really no good reason for it, other than that it just happens to be the perfect location for him to be so that he can conveniently be killed in an assassination to start the war Admiral Marcus wants?!? What exactly is Khan planning on doing there alone? 2) Why does Khan think his crew is dead? Why is the admiral planning on having their bodies disposed of via using them to assassinate Khan himself? He was using Khan to develop this technology, wouldn't he want to thaw another one of these guys out? And they're really going to use 72 torpedoes?? 3) Where the heck are the klingons? They're fighting a battle in klingon space, and just killed a bunch of them (and destroyed their ships) on their homeworld, and they never show up??? 4) Carol Marcus is acting all happy at the end when her father was just killed..... right. 5) What the heck does Nemoy's Spock tell this Spock that is of any relevance? Presumably Nemoy tells this Spock how they defeated Khan... in Wrath of Khan they went into a Nebula. What the heck does that have to do with transporting photon torpedoes that are about to detonate? Is it supposed to have some similarity to the detonation of the genesis device? Very very unclear what the point of that is. 6) The ability to just phone up anyone... Nemoy's Spock, or Scotty on a cell phone back near earth... totally ridiculous. 7) The whole... suicide bombing due to getting Khan's blood for your daughter... hard to buy that this father would be so caught up on saving his daughter that he would blow himself up along with all of his coworkers. It's also stupid because Khan could easily have just bombed that place himself when he was working there instead of engaging in some elaborate plot to offer his blood to the dying child of some other star fleet lackey. I could go on but you get the idea. I also think that the "Khaaaaaaan" and death scene weren't earned... more importantly, they were also goofy and poorly executed.