MrIamme

December 18, 2008 3:33 pm

@Paul

It's a punchy kind of week. And I can't claim that you struck unwarranted. I apologize as well.

I will read Conan. I know what's good for me. 

December 18, 2008 3:12 pm

Thank you Josh. I will try to scale back my approach to discussion, and I apologize for giving a negative impression.

@itsbecca: Absurd absurd absurd!

Damn me for my lack of self control! 

December 18, 2008 2:56 pm If it has to be explained, it not a very good joke.

December 18, 2008 2:43 pm So you just like being a dick. Okay. I see what the tone is here.

December 18, 2008 2:37 pm

PaulMontgomery: "I'm still cooler, albeit far less Robin Hood than Mr. Lame though."

I see the nature of the "friendly spirited discussions" Josh was talking about includes petty personal attacks. I seem to be engaged in a rewarding dialog. how about you Paul?

December 18, 2008 2:02 pm Well, if you have the time to find those books, it will be interesting to see if the creators bothered to put any information in or not. I will prepare myself for the potential humbling. And I admit to being really curious what the books are now. Are you sure this wasn't actually a super sly way to drum up interest for said unnamed titles?

December 18, 2008 1:49 pm

itsbecca: "I relent that would've been smart of me to demand last go around, but I'm rather shy and kind of just went around smiling and pointing at things and holding out money."

Let me reiterate that i do feel that this is a failure on the part of the creators in question. They certainly SHOULD be putting this information in your hands. I simply feel that to often readers take a fully passive role. There is no good reason for that. Both parties should, I think, meet in the middle in terms of effort.  

December 18, 2008 1:46 pm

itsbecca: "The problem is this.  I just don't care enough about them."

Then I'm really not sure why you brought them up in the first place. You alluded to the fact that you would have kept reading the titles, but you didn't know where to look. That's not the same argument as "I just don't care enough". If your initial argument had been "I just don't care enough", I probably would never have responded to you. 

itsbecca: "While I'm certainly lazy, It's not my laziness that drives this put it in my face culture.  It's competition.  If there's one movie theater in your town they don't have to get all fancy to make you come.  If there's 50 they're going to start getting those nice plush chairs and letting you put as much butter on the popcorn as you want.  If comics were my only interest and freetime activity I might spend more time taking fledling creators and walking them around by my hand, but it's not.  Comics aren't just competing against comics, they're competing against consumers free time for media.  Movies, books, music and video games all eat up that precious time.  But even for those that it is... there's so many comics, past and present.  Does anyone want to post their towering "Next Pile" to drive this point home?"

Like I said, my response was based on your initial argument. If you liked the books enough to want to keep reading them, and to be at a loss for where to look for them, then it is your responsibility to keep track of them regardless of the flaws in the marketing. If you are content to go with the marketing over preference the majority of the time, that's your prerogative. 

December 18, 2008 1:32 pm

BC1: "and they are self-distributing their book (which from becca's description sounds reasonable)"

As I stated in my earlier post: "If the book was distributed in any capacity beyond a convention". What I mean by that is if the creator has the book distributed through one of any number of distributers. I didn't see anything in becca's post to suggest that these books were solely delivered by the creator, as books sold at conventions are often available through other avenues. However, I admit that the possibility exists.

BC1: "Also, not knowing from becca's posts, we don't know if the creators included info in their books" 

Again, I stated my earlier comment with a qualifier. "Many". Certainly not all. So the possibility exists. That said, the title and creator name will certainly be present, and that is usually enough to go on. 

BC1: "Finally, it does come down to what you like."

Sure. But the implication in her original post was that she did like these books enough to continue reading them. She chose, through inaction, not to. I'm not saying that she must pursue everything that comes her way. But she remembered these books enough to comment on them now, including the clarification that she did follow up with one title. She liked them enough to keep them, and reflect on how she would have continued reading them, if she had known where to look. 

Regardless, she told us to stop speculating, and she will answer our questions when time allows. It will be interesting to see the results. Like I stated previously, I could quite easily be wrong in my assessments. 

December 18, 2008 1:06 pm

itsbecca:"It will be on your desk by morning Mr. Lamme."

And I will likely be humbled by an absolute failure on the part of the creators to include relevant information in the pages of their own books, and also by an inevitable absence of information on the web. Ah well.