The iFanboy Letter Column – 09/18/2009

Friday means many things to many people. For some, Friday means it’s searching for the ultimate party where on the way, you and your friends get stuck in a 1980s movie-esque adventure. For others, Friday is the day you pretend to be a psychic to help solve crimes in Santa Barbara.

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My co-worker’s son who is 12 years old, doesn’t get to read much comics because there isn’t a local comic book store in our area. However she tells me he likes to read a lot of fantasy based prose like Harry Potter, The Chronicles of Narnia, The Spiderwick Chronicles and so on, but she’s running out of ideas on what to buy him to read. My question is this, what are some good all ages fantasy comics that are collected in trade or hardcover format that has a definitive end that I recommend to her? Now keep in mind I want to recommend Tellos to her but with only one volume collected in hardcover format and with artist/co-creator Mike Wieringo’s passing I’m apprehensive about doing so, not knowing if the series will ever be completed.

Shaun

It’s funny that you should mention Tellos, because as I was reading your e-mail, I was thinking that exact book! It’s not the only option out there, but one of the best and I would absolutely recommend that book. Artist Mike Wieringo may have passed away, but his work with writer Todd DeZago is still one of the best fantasy stories told in recent years and what’s been published stands on its own as a complete story. It’s definitely a great story that is meant to be enjoyed.

Another option would be Jeff Smith’s Bone, which is an epic run that you can get either in one thick volume or you can get broken up into trades. Visually it’s very cartoony and Disney-like, but the story is steeped in fantasy with swords and creatures and things like that and is possibly one of the best fantasy comics to come in our modern age of comics. I think Bone would be one of your best options to recommend to your co-worker’s son, I personally guarantee that he will fall in love with this story and read it again and again. Another great option would be the Mouse Guard series which has two complete stories published so far and I would imagine would have many more. Depicting medieval style mice as they battle the elements and the other evil animals in their land, Mouse Guard is both beautiful and fantastic storytelling. I don’t think you can go wrong with either Bone or Mouse Guard. Good luck with the recommendations and let us know if he likes them!

Ron Richards

 


So my wife bought me The Death of Superman for my birthday, I know, she is awesome. I had never read it since I just recently got into comics. Being the completest that I am, I read the “World Without Superman” and am starting “The Return of Superman” as well as the “Hunter/Prey” storyline.

As I’m going through the story, I’ve noticed a few similarities between this and the “Batman RIP” storyline by Morrison. I know that The Death of Superman was a speculation event, but I was wondering if you guys saw similar story elements. We all know that Bruce Wayne will be coming back, but the “replacements” for Superman are almost the same as they were for Batman.

Do you feel that once all the Grant Morrison storyline for Batman is over and gone, will we not really care like we do for the Superman death?

Randall H. from Conway, Missouri

Granted it’s been well over ten years since I read those comics, but the only similarity I can remember between “The Death of Superman” storyline and the current one in the Batman books is that both characters died (or in Batman’s case, were perceived to have died). In the Superman story, the replacements — Superboy, Steel, The Erradicator, and Cyborg Superman — were actually vying to be the new Superman, whereas in the current Batman books Dick has stepped into the role of Batman and, as of right now, there is no debate over who is the rightful new Batman.

Your final question is an interesting one, although it supposes that we don’t still really care about “The Death of Superman” storyline now, 17 years later. I’m not sure that we do, from a storytelling standpoint. I think its importance lies as it being one of the symbols of the rampant speculator days. The last time I talked to anyone about this story was in the context of economics, not what actually happened in the book. I actually just talked about it a few weeks ago and here we are talking about it now. So, yes, I think it’s an important story, and yes, we still care about it, just not really because of what happened on the page. Although that was somewhat important too because what happened on the page precipitated all the rampant speculation. It’s also one of the earliest times I remember people, on a large scale, getting pissed off about a resurrection. Maybe they were all mad because they paid a lot of money for Superman #75.

Will the current Batman story have as big of an impact as “The Death of Superman”? Definitely not. First and foremost, because we know that Bruce Wayne is not really dead. We knew going into this that he would be back. And one of the reasons we knew that was because of “The Death of Superman” storyline. Everyone comes back, eventually. Everyone is fair game after the return of three of the biggest Dead Sacred Cows: Barry Allen, Jason Todd, and Bucky. Every time a major character is killed and then returns it lessens the impact of the next death and resurrection. It’s happened before, and it’ll happen again, but each time it’ll have less of a cultural impact.

When it’s all said and done, we will care about “The Death of Superman” mostly for what happened outside the pages, and the current Batman story for what happened inside the pages.

Conor Kilpatrick

 


Back in the day (mid-70s) I was a comic reader, mostly DC but some Marvel, all superhero stuff. Since stumbling across your podcast a few months ago, I’ve rediscovered comics (through the trade format).

My problem is that I’m obsessed with NOT MISSING ANYTHING. In other words, continuity is a real stumbling block for me in terms of starting at the beginning and following the path (along with its myriad forks) until I catch up to real time. For whatever reason, though I was a Batman fan once upon a time, I’ve now decided that Green Lantern is my thing. I picked up a copy of The Green Lantern Chronicles, Vol. 1 — and though the stories were horribly juvenile and outdated — I have this nagging (here’s the OCD part) voice in my head telling me that if I don’t start at the beginning I’m going to miss something so profound as to render all the great stuff that’s coming out now, incomprehensible.

Or, put another way, what’s happening now might have the same awe-inspiring impact as it might had I read all that’s gone before.

Does any of this make any sense? Look, I’ve heard you guys say before to just “jump in” and start somewhere, which is good advice and I agree with you. But you have to understand that OCD is a very real condition and is extremely difficult for me to set aside so that I can simply “jump in.”

I went to the DC website and found a Green Lantern reader checklist in pdf format, which suggest starting with Green Lantern: Rebirth then continues from there. I’m willing to do that (assuming I get therapy for my OCD), but am I really going to appreciate it if I just let the past lie in the past?

Keith G.

Wow. I’ve done some thinking about this, and I’m going to give you my honest opinion, as opposed to the polite opinion. If you were my very good friend (not Ron or Conor, but real friends), I would tell you that you’re batshit crazy, and you’re just denying yourself the possibility of enjoyment because of these silly rules you made up inside your head.

The fact is, you can’t read everything Green Lantern, because it’s a ridiculous notion. There’s no comprehensive list, so you’d never know if you didn’t miss something to begin with. Further, there are 50 years of comics going back, and most of them probably aren’t very good, and don’t even matter to continuity anyway. And if you can’t put together what’s going on, then you’re not going to have much fun anyway, because you’re just working at putting a puzzle together instead of being lost in a story. Plus it would cost you tens of thousands of dollars to read mostly shitty comics that really only matter for the Gil Kane artwork, which isn’t necessarily continuity. The only advice I’d give you is to get over yourself and read from Rebirth. You’ll be fine. If you really can’t do that, stop writing to chuckleheads like us about it and see a damned doctor!

I sometimes wonder why comics fans proudly wave their OCD banner. I also wonder how real it is, or if we’ve just all come up with a silly thing to call our habits, or if you’re seriously mentally ill. Do comic books attract compulsive types? Or do they make people compulsive and obsessive? I think I had a touch of it, but the more real life kicked in, the more precious my time becomes. I don’t want to spend time reading stories because I have to, but because I want to. Once I did that, I stopped all that stuff. I don’t bag and board. I don’t organize my comics. I drop and jump in to series at will, with reckless abandon. Uniformity of format is a joke on my shelves. I’m at the point where I might be doing it just out of spite.

I’m saying, break the chains, and figure out if there’s a reason you’re doing this stuff, and if there isn’t, just stop it before you can’t leave the room without touching a rabbit’s foot a specific number of times that squares with 4.

I was kidding about that “real friends” thing. I kind of like Ron and Conor. Most days.

Josh Flanagan

Comments

  1. I agree that Rebirth is a fine place to start for Green Lantern. I had never read a GL book before Rebirth, but had no trouble jumping in and understanding everything.

    Also, I wish that Bruce Wayne’s death would have the kind of impact on the comics that Superman had, because personally, I would like him to stay dead (even though I know this wont happen). I am really enjoying the whole Dick and Damien stories and I think they’ve probably better than most the Bruce Wayne Batman stories have been for a while.

  2. I like the Chronicle trades that DC have been putting out. So if someone wants to start getting the older issues of Batman or GL then it can be fesible to collect them. I don’t think the guy should find old issues of GL, just keep picking up the Chronicles. There will be a time when those trades will start collecting what we’re picking up now.

    Seeing that iconic panel again for Death of Superman…..I never noticed how ripped Olsen is. Look at his arms! Almost as big as Sups!

  3. Hey Guys:

    Thanks for answering my silly letter. Maybe I forgot to mention in it that I actually have tens of thousands of dollars just burning a hole in my pocket.

    I think I will start with Rebirth, and see where things go from there. Or, instead, maybe I’ll start with Superman: The Man of Steel, Volume 1. Now if I could just find that damned rabbit’s foot…

    Keith

  4. I’ve gotta say that the Reign of Supermen storyline is one that sits at just about the absolute pinnacle of my comic book reading experiences. I’d dabbled in comics up until the age of 11, but when I heard about that storyline, I dove right into comics and never really came out. There was a breathlessness to my comic collecting at that point that I’ve never been able to reclaim. Having no idea what was going to happen next made the weekly trip to the comic store so enticing. "Which of these Supermen was the real deal? How was Superman cloned? Why is Supergirl a purple fleshy thing? Whoa! Did you see what the Cyborg just did!?" I loved it.

    The fact that this whole storyline is remembered more for what it did to the industry rather than what it did for readers like me is too bad. Now, I know I was young and didn’t yet appreciate the good stuff, but those stories and the feeling I got while reading them sticks with me. They’re what got me hooked on comics for life. The work of Tom Grummett and Dan Jurgens still gives me a warm feeling just because they worked on that storyline.

    But that’s just me. The Batman Reborn storyline is great, of course, but it probably won’t hold that special place for me in 15 years. If only I could be young again. 🙂

  5. What’s curious is that THE DEATH OF SUPERMAN ends up being far more important to Green Lantern than it ever does to Superman! Coast City is destroyed by Mongul and Cyborg-Superman. Hal fights Mongul and gets his arm broken. And then comes in Emerald Twilight. Except for Doomsday, I really can’t recall an important plot point that’s ever come out of Death of Superman, except for Steel and Superboy, and we can see how much they change.

    So… here’s my big OCD moment. (I don’t actually have OCD…) I’ve spent the 8 years I’ve been back into comics hunting, pecking, deal-making and TPB buying to assemble my Green Lantern collection. Thanks to the DC Archive Editions, Showcase Presents TPBs, and various event TPB I have a pretty comprehensive GL collection. It’s all three series starting from 59,  all of Action Comics Weekly, the assorted annuals, specials, one-shots, Guy Gardner, GL: Mosaic, GL: Quarterly, etc. I didn’t concern myself with JLA stuff, and I do have some older Flash stuff so I have a few of the GL/Team-Ups. I’m certain there are a few holes in there still, but that’s 50 years worth of comics! 😉 I’m hoping to organize reading them all into some sort of blogging/podcasting/wikia thing down the line.

    All that being said, my advice to Keith is…. pick up Rebirth. Start there. See how it goes. Anyone on this site is more than willing to tell you what (if anything) you’ve missed and where you can go to read up on it, etc. 

  6. I would love to see you guys have a careful, reasoned discussion of the 90’s speculation boom and bust.  I could simply go read the wikipedia page, but I didn’t read comics during that (painful) stretch and missed out on how it felt to go through it.  Maybe just an article summarizing what that was like?  A video show featuring the discussion and some specifc books that were keystones would also be nice.

    I’m fairly certain I have heard you guys discuss this in bits and peices at various times, but am unaware of anything specifically focused on the 90’s. 

  7. @PraxJarvin – Perhaps "Hal vs. The Prax"?  I’d listen.

    I also find it interesting that one of the most important pieces of the Green Lantern mythos is in a Superman book.

  8. I don’t want to touch the whole issue of whether being a completist is a choice or some kind of compulsion.  I’ve never had the completist bug, myself, so I can’t address that. 

    What I can say is that from a practical viewpoint, reading all those comics isn’t going to result in a coherent story in your head, because chances are there’s not a coherent story on the page.  I can’t speak for ‘Green Lantern,’ but I can safely say this about ‘X-Men.’  I’ve spent a decent amount of energy trying to reconstruct certain aspects of X-Men continuity, and I just always assumed that I was having trouble fitting it together because I didn’t have all the pieces of the puzzle.  But I’ve gotten it to a point where, between back issues and DVD-ROM sets, I was looking at, say, every X-Men comic published in 1987.  And they *don’t* help each other make more sense.  They factually contradict each other all over the place; they rely on timelines that can’t possibly work; and even when they don’t do that, the stories have enormous story gaps in them, missing facts, characters seemingly forgetting things they knew 5 issues before, characters *not going to the trouble to ascertain whether or not their loved ones are alive for months at a time*.  And these are stories that were intended to fit together.   A lot of the older stories weren’t even written with that in mind.  And I’m talking about books written within a year of each other.  When you start dealing with deliberate retcons and new stories referencing old continuity, you’re in even more trouble.

    In other words, by all means, if you have the dough and want to collect — if as a historian of publishing you’re interested in everything that DC comics has ever published about GL — more power to you.  But the one thing that reading every single issue *isn’t* likely to do is help the stories make more sense.  This is just my experience, your mileage may vary; but I suspect this is true to some extent across the board with DC & Marvel comics. 

  9. Josh’s response was fantastic.

  10. Nice letter responses all. 

    Josh, I am in total agreement with what you say.  We have like philosophies.  I’m not dismissing the disease, but, I do think more people just claim it than get it actually diagnosed by a liscenced physician.  It’s dreadfully absurd to think you HAVE to read something just to say you’ve read it or that you feel you’ll miss out on something. 

    I haven’t really purchased an issue of a comic in a few years.  One, money.  Two, time.  Three, I was wasting alot of money and time on crap that I was starting to hate.  It was like smoking cigarettes.  I knew it was bad, but, I couldn’t stop. 

    Now I just buy the trades or graphic novels that interest me on their own merit and not how they fit into any logistic pattern.  If I read a story and it grabs me to keep with it, that’s great.  I have a new thing to look forward to.  If not, then I find something else and try again.

    Good mail bag this week.  Damn good.

  11. @keidalgrim Hey, make sure if you have tens of thousands of dollars in your pocket that you have become an iFanboy member….and you’ll get a free t-shirt when you sign up at the slightly higher level!

     

  12. Oh, and in reponse to Shaun’s question about fantasy comics for kids, you might want to check out the WONDERFUL WIZARD OF OZ book that Marvel just put out. If the kid is into adventure with a hint of fantasy, there’s always the DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES digests that have been coming out for the last several years. They’re cheap and, if the kid likes them, there’s always the world of Carl Barks to explore.

    I suppose the son might feel himself too old for the Disney stuff, but it doesn’t hurt to try.

  13. I think Randall might be referring to similarities in Battle for the Cowl and the aftermath of Death of Superman. They have equivalents, I suppose; the younger character claiming to be Bats/Supes (Superboy and Tim Drake for the time he wore the cowl), the bad guy who’s making a mockery of the very person he imitates (Cyborg Superman, Jason "Bat Punisher" Todd), and the guy who’s ultimately a just a good guy filling in for the fallen top dog (Steel and Dick Grayson). Ummm there were also the covers had everyone dressed like Batman, so (Cybor Superman and Two Face?).
    I dunno, I was too young to really remember the DoS stuff (I also kinda forget BftC) ; the last time I read it was when it came out… and I was like 6. I don’t think I even actually read the words, I think I just looked at the pictures going, "Oh no! Supermaaaaaaan!" and then promptly left it on my little bookshelf where it soon fell and found itself underneath the corner of said shelving, which of course caused it to get ripped to shreds. Take that, speculators!

  14. @stuclach that’s a great idea for a special podcast (maybe when they start up the video podcasts again?). I’d definitly be interested in hearing a discussion about the 90s because I as well wasnt reading comics at that time.

  15. @stuclach,The PunisherMax: what was it like in the 90s. Imagine being slapped in the face repeatedly, I’m joking. It was depressing at times but by no means were the 90s weren’t devoid of good material. We had Sandman, Preacher, Hellboy…etc.

  16. " I don’t want to spend time reading stories because I have to, but because I want to.  Once I did that, I stopped all that stuff.  I don’t bag and board.  I don’t organize my comics.  I drop and jump in to series at will, with reckless abandon.  Uniformity of format is a joke on my shelves.  I’m at the point where I might be doing it just out of spite."

    I love this quote from Josh’s response. Josh, this is exactly what I do, too. Solidarity! 

    I’ve also actually been known to roll up and issue and stick it in my back pocket. I’m pretty sure that might be out of spite. 

    Although… I’m not being completely honest. There are still vestigial responses.  A couple months back, I saw that my GF had my copy of Unwritten #1 in her purse with the cover completely folded back. I had a slight seizure for the first ten seconds. And then I was OK again.

     

  17. (ok, that last part was a little off-topic. But I don’t bag/board/organize, and I do pick up and drop titles with reckless abandon. At this point, I don’t even bother finishing a mini-series if it bores me midway through.)

  18. If anything, Batman: RIP will be remembered from an economic/timing standpoint as well.  It was out when The Dark Knight was the biggest thing since velcro, and it was not accessible in any way shape or form.  In fact, there were very few comics available for converts (although there were always the trades…).

  19. I picked up the three "Death of Superman" trades 5 or 6 years ago, as I had skipped out  on the event at the time (I was reading mostly "important" comics back in college days) and it seemd like an important bit of history, if not else because of the speculator/mass marketing tie ins. I was an almost complete DC newbie (this is 5 years ago, now…things have been changing a bit, dmn you Geoff Johns!), so I think I got a reasonably fresh take on it.

    The first book was a horrific piece of crud. It is Superman being pounded on for several issues by a mindless space monster. Then he dies. Most iconic Superhero of all time and he is just beaten to death by a guy with horns on the outside and there is really no other significant story or themes running through it. Superman doesn’t give up, so he dies. Doomsday, indeed.

    The next two TPBs, while not high art, were actually fairly engaging. Who were these new supermen? Where did they come from? Where they really here to help? And then finally, how was Superman going to return and put things right. I think they did a good job with the second half of the story. If only they had put a little more effort into making a good (and truly tragic/interesting/meaningful) death I think it would be remembered more fondly than just a marketing stunt.  

  20. I had such a great time reading the Redwall series growing up, I can’t wait to read the Mouse Guard series and am happy to see the next part of the series will start in 2010…

  21. with the death of superman and batman stories have some simularities. I will have to agree with connor except for the battle of the cowl. That did pit people fighting for the batman mantle as did happen in superman, but that is about all I can think of.

  22. I just got the single volume of Bone last week and read it in about 4 days.  It really is an awesome epic series. 

    Has Jeff Smith done anything else that is worth looking at?

  23. @rush – I’m aware that there were some solid books present in the 90’s, but many book and the industry as a whole appear to have been in disarray.  I’d like to hear what they (and many of you) experienced.

    @ThePunisherMax – Thank you. 

  24. I dont have OCD but I’ll certainly admit that I may be somewhat of a compulsive/obsessive person. Personally I dont like trades because I like to collect the original issues even though I know it takes up more space and might even cost more than finding the story in trade format(though sometimes its been the other way around) and even before I got back into comics a few years ago I was and still collect vinyl records. Yeah, its the same thing that Ive got some sort of fascination with owning a product in its original form as it was intended instead of a shiny hardcover or digitally remastered CD

  25. @Neb
    Who’s gonna remember that about RIP? If anything, time will wash that negative about the storyline away.

  26. I knew someone with OCD who would scream until all the blood vessels in his neck burst if he was interrupted in the middle of the ABC song. You guys are fine.

  27. Fantasy Comics?

    Try the World of Warcraft series. Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time series has started publishing. Any of the D&D stuff too would probably be liked as well.

    And get him The Lord Of The Rings. In prose. He is reading fantasy and he should just read it. Well just because.

     

  28. Not only did my email get answered, its the first one in the column. WOOHOO!!

  29. The reason I asked for recommendations on stories with a definitive end is because, I don’t want to recommend something for her son to read and she has to keep buy trade after trade for him. She would literally want to kill me!

  30. i think we’re all forgeting the greatest impacted the Death of Superman story had on the comics industry – It got me to read comics!

    Just a quick comment on the OCD completist debate: Honestly? Just forget about. I’m missing issues of the current Green Lantern, New avengers, Captain America, etc. I don’t lay awake at night thinking about those missing issues. Enjoy comics, don’t obsess over them.

  31. The only time I have OCD with comics is when I’m missing an issue that I know is either an important issue or its a series that each issue is really important. Its just stuff like Y: The Last Man or Walking Dead that I’ll hold off on reading until I get the issue I’m missing.

  32. Don’t know if it’s been mentioned before but I think it’d be interesting that Wonder Woman die in the next 10 years, then DC could collect those trades in a single Showcase and title it "Death of Trinity" or something along those lines. Sounds interesting from a marketing standpoint.

  33. I got my job in comic book stores due to my OCD.  I’d been shopping here for about a year and the trade section was atrocious.  The manager had an idea that she would keep the section just about alphabetical, but anything she had doubles of, she would just throw on top of the section in random order.  The problem being, when a book was sold, there was no way of knowing where it was on the pile, and it often wouldn’t get pulled and put in nearly alphabetical order.  So, one Sunday I came in to get some terrible, terrible X-Men trades (damn you, Peter Milligan) and turned to the manager and said "I’m fixing your trade section."

    Five hours later, I had three free trade paperbacks, and a pretty intrisicly simple system in place.  And three months and seven applications later, I had a new job.  Technically, that’s pretty OCD.  Now, if she hadn’t let me fix the section, would it have bothered me, yea.  But, while I was compelled to organize, I wouldn’t have been unable to control my urge to fix it if she’d said "No, thanks.  I like it the way it is."

    I have a similar reaction with comic properties that I enjoy.  I grew up reading X-Men, and I buy every trade that contains issues that I don’t already own in trade.  Were it readily available, I would own the complete run, awful or otherwise.  Am I going to trek to some seedy trade paperback and heroin bar in Hackensack, New Jersey to get the hard to fins Barnes & Nobles trade paperback Marvel Masterworks X-Men #3, well…I mean, if I"m already in Hackensack New Jersey, maybe.

     On the fantasy comics for kids front, Ron’s suggestions are really the best possible answers.  But, if you’re looking for more, the Flight anthologies are gorgeous, filled with fantasy stories (as well as a few less-fantasycentric stories, which could draw his interest to other genres).  And you don’t need to read them in any sort of order.

  34. @akamuu: I would be the worst costumer ever, especially now that you tell me you have OCD.

    Mix in the back issues with the newer issues on the rack; but Batman books and mix it with X-Men; Orange Soda spots on random spots of comics. I’ll be your #1 customer. 🙂

  35. @TNC: Yea, that one time you came into the store before I killed you would be very traumatic for me.  😉

     Stuff gets out of order, that’s just how things go.  It would only irritate me if it was done on purpose.  If things were in proper order ALL the time, I wouldn’t have the opportunity to fix things.

  36. I (obviously) remember being 10 years old and collecting every issue of the Death of Superman (did I say collect, I meant read) and loving it.  I’ll never forget watching the gangmembers getting shredded in half by the toastmaster rifle, a weapon invented by John Henry Irons.  It was such an awesome time to be a comics fan (in my mind).  I’m sure if you asked somebody who started earlier than I, of which I’m sure there are many who are reading this and asking what a poor misguided youth I was, that would emphatically disagree, but thus is nostalgia.

  37. Fantasy–nice selections with Bone & Mouse Guard.  I’d also recommend Sergio Aragones’ Groo.  I have not idea if it’s still being produced, but it used to be hot, and an all ages comic.  I’d also recommend Akiko on the Planet Smoo–about a young girl that gets whisked away to another planet and all sorts of adventures.  It has elements of SF as well, but a nice read for younger readers (all ages really).  Also Elfquest by Wendy & Richard Pini.  The cartooning in it reminds me of bit of TNMT, which he’d probably enjoy reading as well. 

     For a bit older in age person, I’d recommend, Thieves World was a series of graphic novels by Robert Asprin and nice art by an early Tim Sale.  How can one forget CONAN?  Actually I don’t think 12 years of age is too young for a Marvel Conan, and probably one of the best fantasy comics around!!  Another comic run, but for maybe a teen on up, is Neil Gaiman’s run on Sandman.

  38. @Ron – for taking the time to read and reply to my thanks oh so much. I gave the your suggestions and JeffR’s suggestion of Wonderful Wizard of Oz to my co-worker today, she’s going to try to look for them this weekend. When and/if she finds any of them she going to let me know if her son liked them. Then I’ll let you guys know. 

    Again thanks alot.

  39. ^to my email