MisterJ
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What’s Wrong With You? I Have No Problem with BEFORE WATCHMEN
February 4, 2012 2:01 pm @GregSmallwood: The Moore supporters don't have a response for it, so they ignore it. They also tend to ignore the ethics of contract rights and the business imperative of making $.
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THE BOYS #63
February 4, 2012 12:12 pm agreed. And if there is more Darick Robertson, since the Butcher mini is done, it will be even better!
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What’s Wrong With You? I Have No Problem with BEFORE WATCHMEN
February 4, 2012 12:08 pm @nbcabaniss: How do you know something that will happen in the future? You don't any more than I know which team will win the SuperBowl tomorrow.
And if we fans have experienced everything that these stories could possibly tell, then what is the point of buying comics?? It's not like these comics cannot tell stories that can be found in other comics. It's the same medium, as such, aren't you describing all modern comics as pastiches? Or are you saying that these comics will be prohibited by some unknown means from doing anything new?
I truly do not know if you mean that these comics will be limited or that all comics are limited.
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What’s Wrong With You? I Have No Problem with BEFORE WATCHMEN
February 3, 2012 7:17 pm JokersNuts-Did the prequels dilute or reinvigorate the franchise? Measuring the impact in either terms of popularity or monetary income it reinvigorated and did not dilute them. Putting ones subjective views in front of objective facts while making broad statements is generally problematic.
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What’s Wrong With You? I Have No Problem with BEFORE WATCHMEN
February 3, 2012 7:08 pm @nbcabaniss-Anyone who thinks that any world is fully explored is lacking in imagination. There is always more to learn and explore. And passing judgment that Before Watchmen will have nothing new to say about that world makes me wonder how you got your hands on a time machine.
The answer to your first question reminds me of the Churchill quote concerning democracy.
And you answer your second question within itself. They need cash, this is a very reasonable manner to acquire said cash.
To your third question, I would answer no. But I feel even more strongly that we shouldn't rail against proposed ideas before they become actual product based on some infantile fear of 'destroying memories.'
As to the Malcom quote, it turned out that it allowed humans to repopulate both dead and dying species of humans and plants. And since Jurassic Park also included gene recombination tech, it probably also led to better organ harvesting. Which probably would save a huge number of lives.
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What’s Wrong With You? I Have No Problem with BEFORE WATCHMEN
February 3, 2012 6:48 pm Well, I completely disagree with a vast majority of your statement.
First, it is completely UNreasonable to feel sympathy for someone who entered into a contract and subsequently had issues with the terms. I have just as little sympathy for Moore as I do for athletes who 'outperform' their contract and then attempt to withhold services.
Second, given the industry/media that the work was created for (a serial business), thinking that it would remain untouched for eternity is, at best, shortsighted and, at worst, naive.
Further, I am completely confused by how one can say that a bad addition to one series does hurt the series as a whole, and then, in the very next sentence say that a bad addition to one series does not the series as a whole. So, if A, then B, and if A then not B at the same time??? They are both series! A bad addition to the series hurts the series. And at the same time a bad addition to the series does not affect any other single aspect of the series.
Also, it is completely analogous to compare Before Watchmen to LoEG and Lost Girls and use this as evidence of hypocrisy. In both cases various creator(s) 'A' created and wrote piece 'x' and then creator(s) 'B' came along and used the concepts/properties from piece 'x' for piece 'y' in a manner that creator(s) 'A' never intended. Changing the background setting is completely specious to the greater concept. This is evidenced by Moore himself using the same titles/names for the characters.
As far as your attempts to 'defy anyone,' well...
I still get misty during the attack on the first Deathstar. I still think that the duel sequences from Episode IV are kinda lame. I pay no attention to the silly ideas of becoming a superhero through magic bacteria or that my favorite childhood villain could be seen as a Christ analogue.
For the life of me, I have never understood why people got up in arms over the end of Lost. I have always wondered what they thought they were watching to have such a visceral reaction.
Lastly, and I say this as a born and raised Chicagolander, MJ coming back as a Wizard has never mattered to me in the slightest. I still remember getting it over on Magic's Lakers in 91, the shrug in Portland in 92, the pass to Pax and the subsequent block by Grant. Then two years in the wilderness followed by a completely different and better team for 96, crushing the small market Jazz in 97, and knowing that it was ending and hoping for a capping championship in 98, which his airness delivered (albeit with an uncalled push)
To say otherwise is analogous to saying that all my childhood Christmases were ruined when I found out that Santa was a concept and not a person. Just hogwash.
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What’s Wrong With You? I Have No Problem with BEFORE WATCHMEN
February 3, 2012 5:30 pm @Nerd Raaage-Another good response is to use the 'BCS defense.' In this defense, you tell them that their bitching is exactly what DC wants, extra space occupied in their mind by their product. College football has been using this, quite successfully, for a longer period than my parent's lifespan.
@wally-Just like the first movie and a half of the Star Wars (why would anyone want to know that the Force is powered by, essentially, bacteria), or the 2nd Die Hard movie (I do love how silly the 4th one is for some reason), or the third Robocop movie, and a great many others.
@Mincer Ray-That's because the primary motivator for all conscious entities is survival/growth. Expecting otherwise just runs counter to simplistic laws of nature and physics.
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ACTION COMICS #6
February 3, 2012 1:11 pm @WheelHands-Don't forget to also sell more merch! It's not all about the comics. ;)
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INVINCIBLE #88
February 2, 2012 3:36 pm It read fast, but who cares when it reads this good!!
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DC Announces ‘Before Watchmen’ (UPDATE)
February 2, 2012 3:32 pm Yes, but as you say these are all from other people. Your rationalizing is not the same as Moore's explanations.
When Moore comes out and gives an explanation as to what the difference is between his work on League or Lost Girls and what modern comics (which he bitches about) are doing, then the "accusation' will be answered. This is the problem, not whatever idealistic whining justification comes from Moore's supporters.
And for the record, I do believe that he is the greatest comic writer ever, and that he is a cranky old coot.
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