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1. Burritoclock says:

   October 20, 2011 at 4:05 pm

   This is not a personal attack, honest question. Do you like Superhero comics?

   I, personally, can not fathom how anyone who actually liked superhero costumed comic book stories could possibly have not liked this book. This book to me was THE comic I would show people if they asked me what comic books are. If someone who didn’t read comics ask me where to start I would hand them Issue #1 and #2 of this JL and tell them if they don’t like this they will not like comics.

   But that’s just me.

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   • ghostmann says:

     October 20, 2011 at 5:33 pm

     I feel ya Burritoclock, and I believe it or not I agree with you – JL #1 and 2 are fun comics that I would recommend to someone that wanted fun super hero comics – and yeah, that someone might be 10 years old, but hey…..

     all kidding aside, I guess my problem is that I want more out of my comic books then just Green Lantern fighting Superman in giant splash pages. I love super hero comics. I’ve been reading the damn things since 1983. I was in line to buy Dark Knight Returns the day in came out in 1986. I wrote letters to DC all the time and even got one printed (Swamp Thing issue #69 if you wanted to know.) I am a total fanboy all the way, but I just feel if we let ourselves become “okay” with 20 pages of punching and sparse diaglog the genre is going to suffer. And in way it all ready has.

     Thank god for creators like Scott Snyder, Greg Capullo, Jeff Lemire, Cliff Chang, Brian Azzerello, who are raising the bar that seems to get lowered every year by books like Red Hood and Outlaws, or Deathstroke.

     I want more for Geoff Johns and Jim Lee because I DO love superhero comics and I know these two dudes can do better then this. JL isn’t a bad comic, it’s just by the numbers and derivative of everything they’ve done before.
   • Burritoclock says:

     October 21, 2011 at 10:50 am

     Fair enough. Scott Snyder is probably my favorite writer. I love wonder woman, batman, etc. blah blah. But not every book needs to be, or should be in my opinion, the same. There should be different things out there, they have 52 books, I don’t want 52 dark and serious comics. I’m glad you mentioned death stroke, that’s another one I picked up on a lark and I love it. It perfectly captures an over the top action movie (Like Die Hard 4 or expendables) in comic form. It is fantastic at what it is trying to do, and more importantly I think it knows what it is.

     Is it going to be for everyone? Of course not, but should it be? I’m just saying there is a place for fun comics and “serious” comics. Some people want to see Superman fight the flash and green lantern in beautifully drawn panels, some people actually liked superman when he was god like and boring as hell…

     Now, obviously, this doesn’t have much to do with your review in the sense that it’s your opinion, I get that and it’s not my point that you are “wrong”, I’ve just been seeing this more and more in all forms of media, where something is panned because the reviewer doesn’t like something about what it IS. If that makes sense?

     In other words, if someone goes to see “Real Steel” and then comes out saying it “It was just a cheesy cliche boxing movie with robots” it drives me crazy, what did they think it was going to be? haha.

     Anyway, hopefully I didn’t ramble too much.
2. RedBaron504 says:

   October 20, 2011 at 7:00 pm

   I respectfully disagree. I love that Superman lacks caution. I love that Hal Jordan is a cocky jerk. I love that Flash would rather be solving a murder at his crime lab. I love that no one respects Batman. These guys are in their 20s and they have no idea what they are doing. Its different in that I know what a parademon is but the Justice League doesn’t. There is also that wonderful element in the story that the world doesnt trust them and they really are on their own.

   I’m not sure if I agree with the sparse dialog and lack of substance. I do remember a father crushing his son’s dreams and breaking his heart just before he sees him horribly mutilated. That seemed kind of serious to me.

   I feel that the extra pages allow for more punching and splash pages and that makes me very happy. The very last thing I want to be reading is a story where Batman and Robin are riding in the Batmobile for 15 pages and having a serious discussion. I’d much rather see flawed characters making mistakes and acting like idiots while trying their best to save the world.

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   • ghostmann says:

     October 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm

     I don’t know man, I think I might dig 5 pages of Batman and Robin having a serious discussion.

     But hey, that’s just me. 😉

     Bottom line dudes, if everyone liked that same things and had the same tastes this world would be one boring place (not to mention iFanboy.com)
3. zak7khan says:

   October 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm

   No offense but the books supposed to last for a few decades. I’m not trying to change your opinion of the book or anything but yes this book comes off slow burning and the fight has lasted an issue (last quater of #1 and 3 quarters of this issue) but unless you’ve gotten bored (I haven’t) remember this isn’t a mini series or maxi series. This is a new universe starting a fresh with characters who have just met each other! It is unfair that this is marketed to new readers and not us but a few years down the road we’ll have newbies who’ll be curious and read old dcu and we’ll all have come full circle. Just be patient, enjoy the gorgeous art (That’s what i’m here for) and enjoy the ride

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   • ghostmann says:

     October 20, 2011 at 10:47 pm

     No offense taken my friend. For the record, my reviews sometimes come off like I’m a bitter old man that hates these new fandangled comics and wishes for the old days (well, some of that may be a little bit true), but yeah, I ultimately collect comics because I love the ride you spoke of. I did not think JL #2 was a bad comic, just one that left me wishing for more from two of the superstars of the comic book world. I get the “slow burn” aspect of John’s story he is building and I’m cool with that technique but he can do better – I’ve seen it. Green Lantern Rebirth was excellent. The Sinestro Corps War was a thrill a minute. Even Blackest Night was a blast. But with this Justice League so far I just don’t feel that sense of awe and wonderment that someone like say Morrison brought to the JLA in his run. So far Johns is relying way too much on sly jokes and humor to carry the book – it’s not enough.

     Darkseid is coming. We should be feeling a sense of impending doom and dread, but instead we get GL calling Batman a tool and Flash worrying about some cold case back at the office.

     And like I said, Jim Lee’s is great, but it would be nice to have more the 2 or 3 panels a page.

     With all that said, yeah of course I’m gonna stick around and continue to collect this book. And I will continue to hope for more.

     There are worse comics out there to read that’s for sure. =)
4. kcekada says:

   October 20, 2011 at 10:32 pm

   Ghostman, I get what you’re saying. I think the tone is going to put off people who have know the characters previously. Justice League seems squarely aimed at nu readers — especially younger readers who will think it’s cool to see DC icons act and talk like Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd. And though Lee’s artwork doesn’t look bad, it doesn’t look fresh. To me, this reads like All-Star Batman lite.

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   • ghostmann says:

     October 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm

     thanks for the back-up brother. I was getting outnumbered there. haha. =)
5. RecksDeud says:

   October 21, 2011 at 12:00 am

   This book helped cement my understanding of the New 52: Green Lantern’s an idiot, Batman’s the nice one, and Superman’s acting like he has sand in his vagine…I’ve been reading these characters since I was ten years old and I never thought I’d see the day when they all felt like strangers to me. I like my Green Lantern fearless, not cocky. I liked the family aspect of the Bat-universe that’d been established over the past few years, and I like my Superman confident, patient, and basically a better human being than anyone else in the DCU. Just when I was starting to forget that there used to be a DCU I’d grown to love and look forward to reading every month, books like this (and Catwoman, and Red Hood, and Action Comics, ect…) remind me that what I loved is gone. And I’m finding it kind of hard to even LIKE this new DC. I’m trying, just look at my pull list each week, but DC is losing me quick.

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   • RedBaron504 says:

     October 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm

     People grow and change and so should comic book characters. Whats interesting about Superman springing from the womb standing up for “Truth, Justice, and The American Way!” Nothing. I don’t want to see perfect people doing everything perfectly all the time. Thats boring. Thats beyond fantasy. I always hated Superman because he was an uptight do-gooder and also the most powerful being on Earth. Can you see how that would get stale really quickly?
   • RecksDeud says:

     October 22, 2011 at 12:36 am

     Stale in the hands of a writer with no inspiration from the character, yes. But I’ve read Geoff Johns’ run in Action Comics and James Robinson’s World of New Krypton series, and both of those writers were able to craft compelling stories while staying true to Superman’s inner character. I felt that neither of those books were boring, which is a classifier true only to the eye of the beholder. In purely subjective terms, what’s boring to one person could be the bees knees to someone else. People still go out and read Moby Dick, don’t they? I’m certainly not one of them, but that doesn’t mean that story has no fans at all. And with all the ‘realistic’ angst and moral ambiguity already filling comics pages every week, I for one found it refreshing to read about a character who always tried to rise above those trappings and just do the right thing. The fact that he was so powerful but showed so much restraint, not because someone told him he should, but because he KNEW in his heart it was the right way to be, made him, in a way, a MORE interesting character to me than the others. When everyone else wallows in self-pity and insecurity, and in-fighting with your superhero peers is standard issue storytelling, Superman stood out above the others for me. Now he’s either cocky (Action Comics), pissed off (Justice League) or just plain pissy (Superman). Now, for an example of ‘boring’ Superman, check out Swamp Thing #1, Justice League Dark #1 or Supergirl #2. In these issues, he isn’t anything but a plot device. That, to me, is truly boring.
6. froggulper says:

   October 21, 2011 at 4:32 pm

   Totally agree with the reviewer.

   I don’t understand some of the comments here, though. It’s possible to like superhero comics yet not like super hero comics that are, indeed, “childish”, which Johns’ Justice League certainly seems to me.

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