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So… Ghost Rider is out in the U.S. today.

*Crickets* *Tumbleweeds*

Okay, then. Are you going to see it? Well, if you do – let's talk about it!

Just a word of advice – once you click through there will be SPOILERS so if you don't want anything ruined for you, don't read this thread until you've seen the movie.

Well, iFanboy was originally going to see this tonight and record a Special Edition podcast about it for Saturday but the "blizzard" in the North East has stranded Ron out of town. Now the plan is to see the movie Saturday afternoon and release the Special Edition podcast for Sunday along with the Pick of the Week Podcast.

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  1. import says:

    The reviews I’ve seen have been surprisingly good. They’ve said it holds true to the comic.

  2. import says:

    I plan on seeing it on Monday. It occurred to me this morning that other than the premise that Johnny Blaze gets bonded to a demon from Hell, I know nothing about the character of Ghost Rider. I’ll have to hit wikipedia at some point.

  3. import says:

    They’ve said it holds true to the comic.

    That’s not necessarily a good thing. It depends on what they mean by ‘holds true to the comic’. Do they mean to the spirit of the comic or the actual, literal comic?

  4. import says:

    Nicolas Cage set to win holiday box office race
    Thursday February 15 10:05 PM ET

    Between Valentine’s Day and the Presidents Day holiday weekend, Hollywood is throwing a lot of product at moviegoers, hoping that some will stick.

    The studios might have gotten it right this time, scheduling five new wide releases that target five different audiences.

    After a cold streak with films such as “The Weather Man” and “The Wicker Man” Nicolas Cage is poised to take pole position with the Marvel Comics adaptation “Ghost Rider.”

    The long-gestating film is set for a huge start along the lines of writer-director Mark Steven Johnson’s previous Marvel outing “Daredevil,” which opened to $45 million during the 2003 Presidents Day weekend.

    Cage plays a former motorcycle stuntman who, in order to secure the safety of his true love (Eva Mendes), makes a deal with the devil. Wes Bentley, Sam Elliott and Peter Fonda co-star in the PG-13 film, which Sony opens on Friday.

    http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20070215/117160594600.html

    More in link.

  5. import says:

    Remember, Daredevil got “two thumbs up”. X-men 3 got really good reviews.

    I’m going to see it today. However, the only reason I’m actually going to see it in the theatre is because I get in free. I will report back in later.

    Seacrest OUT! *Wow, that was so gay. I wish I hadn’t done that.*

  6. import says:

    DUDE THE WRITER/DIRECTOR OF SIMON BIRCH MADE IT. Might see it though!?…

  7. import says:

    My ten year old, Logan, is making me go Saturday afternoon. Otherwise I would wait for the DVD.

  8. import says:

    2 podcasts for the week?! Sweet! I saw it already. My lips are sealed til the podcast. :)

  9. import says:

    after the hell I just went through to get back to NYC, this had better be worth it! I’m *psyched* though to see it…

  10. import says:

    David Letterman’s description of this movie was so wonderful, it almost makes me want to see it. But not quite.

    I know very little about Ghost Rider, since I was born during his heyday, but whoever came up with the visual image (a skull, on fire!) was a genius.

    On another filmic note: if you live near an AMC theater, next weekend they’re showing all the Best Picture nominees with all-you-can-eat popcorn for thirty bucks. I’ll be there. It’s like $3 per hour of entertainment!

  11. import says:

    I just saw it. I’d rather I watched Daredevil.

    A quote from my friend at the end of the movie, “Now I’m going to go home and watch The Last Stand. That was a good movie.”

  12. import says:

    The reviews I’ve been hearing are surprisingly… okay.

  13. import says:

    i know some about ghost rider…
    he likes pizza, doesn’t like spicy foods. likes to go for long moonlit bike rides in the middle of the night. likes seeing movies… he’s got one of those blockbuster movie passes… what else…

  14. import says:

    Ghost Rider is already heading for a big weekend.

    FRIDAY’S U.S. BOX OFFICE
    1. GHOST RIDER – $15,250,000
    2. BRIDGE TO TERABITHIA – $6,180,000
    3. NORBIT – $4,310,000
    4. MUSIC AND LYRICS – $4,150,000
    5. TYLER PERRY’S DADDY’S LITTLE GIRLS – $2,975,000

  15. import says:

    WHOOO
    I *knew* I had reason to be psyched! Can’t wait to see it….

    FLAME ON!!! oh wait, er, uhm…PENANCE STARE!

  16. import says:

    WHOOO
    I *knew* I had reason to be psyched! Can’t wait to see it….

    FLAME ON!!! oh wait, er, uhm…PENANCE STARE!

    I’d watch it again. :)

  17. import says:

    I broke down and decided to see it last night. I got to the theater and it was sold out(if you can believe that bullshit). Now, I think I’ve sworn it off again.

    I just seem destined not to see it

    or I really didn’t want to in the first place but if I’m going to rag on it I should

  18. import says:

    I just got back from seeing Ghost Rider. I will compare it to other comic book movies I have seen.

    WAAAAAY better than X-Men 3.

    WAY better than Daredevil.

    Way better than Catwoman.

    Better than Fantastic Four.

    Not as good as Sin City, X-Men 1&2, Spider-Man 1&2, Superman Returns, or Batman Begins.

    Probably on par with the Hulk, for me. Maybe not quite as good. But I liked the Hulk way better than a lot of people on the internet. I think that covers all the ones I’ve seen.

    So yeah, it was a good flick. I would recommend it.

  19. import says:

    We saw it tonight – look for the podcast with our thoughts on Sunday. It’ll be up in conjunction with the POW Podcast.

  20. import says:

    US BOX OFFICE: STUDIO ESTIMATES (FRIDAY-SUNDAY)
    1. GHOST RIDER – $44,500,000
    2. BRIDGE TO TERABITHIA - $22,075,000
    3. NORBIT – $16,802,000
    4. MUSIC AND LYRICS – $14,000,000
    5. TYLER PERRY’S DADDY’S LITTLE GIRLS – $12,100,000

  21. import says:

    Norbit coming it at number 3! says a lot about the collective IQ of America.

  22. import says:

    FORTY-FIVE MILLION?!? Oh Christ almighty!

    I’m speechless.

  23. import says:

    without darron the #3 item in the list would look like this

    3. NORBIT – $16,801,990

  24. import says:

    “The reviews I’ve seen have been surprisingly good. They’ve said it holds true to the comic.”

    OK, who here believes that any reviewer who wrote that is:

    1) Somebody who actually reads comics, much less Ghost Rider
    2) Somebody who has read a comic in the past 20 years
    3) Is not being a shill for either Marvel or the movie studio that produced the movie (it DOES happen, you know)
    4) Thinks they are “doing comics fans a favor” by praising a comics film, by not applying the standards they would to other reviews? I think we apply the same standards to comics and comics movies as other films, why can’t film critics?

    In my comics reading heyday as a kid, I read the original Ghost Rider. You could describe the original concept, and get people in movie theatre’s easily, as its a good concept. But WE all know this: “It’s all in the execution of the concept and the portrayal of the characters.” I doubt many will disagree.

    Also, before anybody jumps to any conclusions about this film’s “box office success” consider:

    1) Many crap movies do good opening weekends, due to curiousity, but then box office sales fall like lead the next weekend as word of mouth gets around
    2) Look at Ghost Rider’s competition: FF and X3 were released in June/July, a heavily competitive time (Summer movies). Ghost Rider was released in March — considered a “safe” time to release a movie, as competition for this type of movie is light; this is when more independent movies come out.

    I say: show me next weekend’s box office, that’s the true test. In the industry, it’s called “good hold” or “tracking well.” My prediction — this movie does not show a good hold at the box office.

    I freely invite anyone to prove me wrong after next weekend.

  25. import says:

    I’ll be honest. I enjoyed myself. I went in with no expectations and thats usually when I have a good time. Some parts were wonderfully campy and the SFX blow me away at some points. Maybe I’m too easily impressed?
    Either way, I’d give it a look if you haven’t already.

  26. import says:

    Here’s where Ron really touched my heart:
    “I really feel bad for the true Ghost Rider fans, just in the same way I feel about X3.”

    All the way until I graduated high school, Claremont/Byrne’s X-Men was the big title I always bought, but in my (early) youth the first run of Ghost RIder was a standout and dear to me.

    Comments most appreciated, thanks, you touched me.
    “Awwwwww…….” (misty eyes)

  27. import says:

    wally, since you’re a ghost rider fan, are there any good runs you’d recommend? i can’t say i’m that interested in the character, but i’ll try anything twice.

    As for the movie, I’ll probably end up waiting for the late night tv showing of this.

  28. import says:

    “wally, since you’re a ghost rider fan, are there any good runs you’d recommend?”

    Actually, no. The Ghost Rider I loved was the first run, when I was a teenager, before baby Jimski was born. There have been several incarnations since then, and maybe other people here can recommend something a little more modern. The run I’m talking about was WAAAAAYYYY long time ago, as in 1973-1983.

    Basically, this was the appeal:
    1) Johnny Blaze was basically Johnny Storm when not “Ghost Rider,” but a little more on the 70s anti-hero tip: handsome young blong guy, cool black leather outfit, pretty hot with the ladies. Nic Cage? I think not. Like Conor and Ron said, Too old.
    2) Motorcyle stunt rider — Evil Knievel was no doubt the inspiration. That may sound campy (Evil was hot back then), but the true spirit of the character is motocycle flame ON action and that damn cool skull on fire (basically Dormamu with a skull).
    3) A brief look at wikipedia seems to indicate that too many subsequent writers lost the concept maybe, and gotten too wrapped up with convoluted soap twisted weird family continuity demon political whatever who cares crap. Just set the damn bike on fire, light up the MoFo skull, and show me the sh** on fire, that’s the deal.
    4) The western connection was just Marvel’s lame attempt at reviving a dead cowboy hero from the 1950s. Even there, the deal is, “show me the damn spook in a mask in white on a horse, and ride baby ride.”

    Keep in mind — I am not a motorcyle enthusiast. But apparently, even I can see what’s gone wrong with this character. Somebody mentioned “Ghost Rider: Trail of Tears,” and what a mystifying book it was. I was just (FINALLY) in a comics shop and had a look, and my reaction was probably their reaction maybe:

    “Where the f*** is the MoFo bike on fire, with the cool a** skull on fire? This is just a bunch of lame people conversing on desolate Civil War (1860s) battlefields…wtf?”

    So my memories are probaby Cage’s too, but good for you I don’t have the money to make you endure my midlife crisis. I was never that attached to Daredevil in comics then, so I found that movie less bad. Old fans of DD, no doubt, found Daredevil more offensive, like my brother, who hasn’t read comics in over 40 years. Ghost Rider is a grave I would rather not desecrate yet (until it comes out on DVD).

    Song: “Ghost Riders in the Sky”?? Gimme a break… and the flaming skull thing is bound to fail on film — skulls by their very nature are not going to be able to emote well when they speak in 3D. Better they left this one on the printed page….

    ‘Cause back then? That sh** was cool. Somebody needs to take the nerdy creators of Marvel to a REAL Hell’s Angels convocation…then we’ll see a real Ghost Rider. Otherwise, I am as open to people pointing to the real thing as you are, Jerome.

    Wally Rant, Done.

  29. import says:

    Wasn’t that bad. I actually like dhow they made up for Cage’s age by having the devil wait to take the rider until much later in life.

  30. import says:

    without darron the #3 item in the list would look like this

    3. NORBIT – $16,801,990

    Why you gotta bring up old shit?

  31. import says:

    mind like a steel trap

  32. import says:

    I really feel bad for the true Ghost Rider fans, just in the same way I feel about X3.

    I still contend that X3 is a much more satisfying film than Superman Returns. X3 is pretty good!

  33. import says:

    I still contend that X3 is a much more satisfying film than Superman Returns. X3 is pretty good!

    Pretty good in the same way that sticking red hot pokers in your eyes can sometimes feel pretty good.

  34. import says:

    This is just a bunch of lame people conversing on desolate Civil War (1860s) battlefields…wtf?”

    Am I the only one that fids it funny that Marvel has taken a oft-delayed event book and made it to where we have to differentiate between a comic book and (one of, if not) the most significant event in American History?

  35. import says:

    Pretty good in the same way that sticking red hot pokers in your eyes can sometimes feel pretty good.

    Yeah but the whole movie doesn’t revolve around a bad land-grab scheme!

  36. import says:

    Son, stocks may rise and fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn good, but they will always need land and they’ll pay through the nose to get it!

  37. import says:

    I just got back from seeing Ghost Rider and I did a full-length run down of my thoughts here
    http://www.revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?p=64960#post64960

    I don’t want to paste it here. It’s kind of long

  38. import says:

    Pretty good in the same way that sticking red hot pokers in your eyes can sometimes feel pretty good.

    I’d say it was more like a purple nurple.

  39. import says:

    Hey guys, you know what movie sucked?

    Ghost Rider!

    Aside from Elektra, I have to say it was the worst Marvel movie made so far. I’d write more, but that would require me to think about the movie and critically analyze it for a long period of time, and since it’s already wasted two hours of my time, I think I’ll just skip that part altogether.

    Spider-Man 3, only you can save Marvel films now!

  40. import says:

    “Am I the only one that fids it funny that Marvel has taken a oft-delayed event book and made it to where we have to differentiate between a comic book and (one of, if not) the most significant event in American History?”

    Thanks Six Gun, I felt pretty awkward typing that…laughing then thinking I really should make the quick distinction. I certainlyy found it funny…

    And Horatio, answer me this –
    Why did Magneto need to break and move the Golden Gate bridge just to get everybody to Alcatraz.. why not just levitate a metal boat?

    And, how long has Prof. X’s school been in Marin County, in California that is? If they can walk across the country within hours, then why move the big damn bridge, and why can’t they get the “when did they arrive, before dark/after dark” right?

    If you like the movie, great, but some of us care about the little things like this. Contrast this to Magneto pulling the grenade pins in X:2, and there’s a huge difference.

    But glad you enjoyed the movie, anyway!

  41. import says:

    The real estate market has always been overvalued….

  42. import says:

    Ghost Rider, what can I say about Ghost Rider… it wasn’t a good movie, but I was entertained. Whatever it says about my taste in movies, I liked Ghost Rider. Again though, this was one of those times when I didn’t raise my expectations up too high before I went into the theater. The effects were great, but there was no plot. No plot at all. Strangely though, that ended up being not as bad as it sounds. I thought Nick Cage was good in it. Ghost Rider ended up being more noble than I expected him to be (I thought this guy was possessed by a demon).

    Here is the deal, I don’t feel like the movie took itself seriously at all and that allowed me to enjoy it. I kinda feel like Cage all but looked at the camera and winked at me. The candy from a martini glass, the cheesy dialogue, and the sound track were silly bits put in there so I could relax in my seat and know they weren’t taking themselves seriously. Think about when you go into a comic book store and there is a guy there who is ranting about continuity or whether Superman could have stopped 9/11 (yeah, I don’t believe that last one happened either, but it did)? You don’t know how that guy takes himself seriously and the fact that he does makes everyone in the room a little uncomfortable or a little out raged. If he turned to you, smiling, winked, and said, “I’m just fucking with you.” If he did that, the tension would be gone and you could enjoy absurdity of what he was talking about or dismiss it. The same thing with this movie, they pieced together this thing without a plot, made us pay nine dollars to watch it, and if I was supposed to be moved by any of that drama I would probably be angry that I wasted my money. Instead I think they went for silly and what they produced was good and silly. Let

  43. import says:

    Dave: That is the most compelling argument I have ever read to actually rent the thing on DVD when it comes out…which I bet is pretty soon (that’s me winking). I totally understand your frustration with people who rant about continuity, but I think the frustration is just this — If they can make a serious Godfather series of films that have no resemblence whatsoever to actual organized crime (unlike Goodfellas), why can’t they do a decent comic book movie? I don’t take Buffy seriously as a fan, but I would take it seriously if somebody bought the rights and then just poured hack work on the market. Whedon throws out many winks and nods, but does take satisfying his fans seriously, and never underates their sophistication or intelligence.

    If Ghost Rider entertains at a level that I was entertained at when I was 12, OK, but I am surrounded here in Japan by crappy pop culture that degenerated because people are just “oh, you shouldn’t expect more,” whereas in Korea, movies are hot and furious and booming (in many countries), because Koreans are like, “Screw that, we want the REAL sh**,” make sense?

    I think that’s the kind of feeling people are expressing when they bag on Ghost Rider, but if you feel like you got your money’s worth, cool, “ride baby ride, flame on, jump those cars, Johnny…”

  44. import says:

    You cannot miss Ghost Rider. It’s terribly funny in a way that few movies will ever be.

    I think I’m going to see it again in the theater

    it’s sadism rather than masochism

  45. import says:

    Wally -Thanks for the kind words. Dude, there have been plenty of decent comic book movies made. Spider-man and the sequel, X-Men and X2, Batman Begins, V for Vendetta and Superman Returns are Godfather-level comic book movies. The Hulk, Daredevil (I like the Director’s Cut) and Batman Returns have their flaws, but I think the good out weighs the bad. Now stuff like the Punisher and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are garbage and I won’t waste my time watching those movies ever again. My point, Ghost Rider wasn’t excellent, but it wasn’t garbage. Not every film is Godfather-level and it is unrealistic to expect every film to be that good. Every trailer I saw of Ghost Rider made it look cheesy and silly. That is what was delivered, if you were expecting something else I am not sure why that is. If you are willing to swallow the silly stuff in Ghost Rider, I think you will find it as delicious as jelly beans out of a martini glass.

    Now bring on 300.

  46. import says:

    Not every film is Godfather-level and it is unrealistic to expect every film to be that good.

    Of course, but every film should be competantly directed and written. And scored for that matter. (I forgot to mention in the show, but the music was terrible.)

    Ghost Rider was none of those things. It was okay in some instances, but embarrasingly bad in a lot of parts.

  47. import says:

    I liken it to a Troma movie, and as such my approach was similar. I expect a sequel called Toxic Avenger 5: The flames of Johnny Blaze

  48. import says:

    I will agree with you that the writing was terrible. I can’t speak about directing, because I have never studied it, but there was no plot to Ghost Rider. Whatever the reason that didn’t matter to me. There was just the right amount of schlock to this movie that I enjoyed it as a lower level film. I mean the guy whistled and his motorcycle came calling, how great was that?

  49. import says:

    Okay, so I wasn’t paying attention but did Stan Lee make his Cameo in this? I know he didn’t create Ghost Rider, but heck he did a cameo in heros this week and he didn’t create that! Does that tell you how bad this movie is???

  50. import says:

    Wow, I didn’t even think of that…

  51. import says:

    Conor and Ron,

    I don’t get why you guys are still so anti-X3. It was released ALMOST A YEAR AGO! Is it really your only benchmark for bad movies? I still don’t see anything about it that was worse than the first two X movies. And personally, I thought it was better than Superman Returns, I’ll tell you.

    Anyway, a question. Is Ghost Rider inappropriate for a 9-year-old girl? My daughter wants to see it for some reason. I guess cuz she heard I was going. As a reference, she saw Star Wars III and Harry Potter IV, both of which have some pretty raw spots. She also saw X-2 when she was like 5, and it didn’t faze her. But is there anything really nasty in this movie?

  52. import says:

    Other then the movie its self? No theres nothing too nasty. It does have some scary jump moments on par with some of the harry potter stuff and the nazgul in LOTR.

  53. import says:

    I don’t get why you guys are still so anti-X3. It was released ALMOST A YEAR AGO! Is it really your only benchmark for bad movies?

    It’s our gold standard for terrible comic book movies. All other bad comic book movies are judged against it. It’s like Greenwich Mean Time.

    Anyway, a question. Is Ghost Rider inappropriate for a 9-year-old girl? My daughter wants to see it for some reason. I guess cuz she heard I was going. As a reference, she saw Star Wars III and Harry Potter IV, both of which have some pretty raw spots. She also saw X-2 when she was like 5, and it didn’t faze her. But is there anything really nasty in this movie?

    Nothing too bad. Some demons and someone says “bullshit” and Ghost Rider gives someone the finger, which was pretty funny.

  54. import says:

    Perfect. Sounds like it’ll be right up her alley. And c’mon, even Daredevil was a worse movie…

  55. import says:

    Daredevil was a bad, bad movie that I enjoyed the first time I saw it in the theater. It was only after watching it on DVD that I realized that it was not watchable anymore.

    X3‘s crimes are much worse. It took a series (that featured two well-crafted, intelligent, lovingly adaptated movies) and drove it right into the ground. And then it urinated on the corpse.

  56. import says:

    The problem with X3 was the characterization of the X-men. It was all wrong even for the continuity in of the movies its self. It took the well built character concepts threw them out the window and then made them into b-movie characters. (Much like ghost rider). However I have seen X3 again and I must say after the initial shock of what Brett did died away and the movie is watchable even a little enjoyable because your realize that this is crap and you take it for face worth.

  57. import says:

    There have only been a couple major comic movies since X3. We all dug Superman Returns, flaws and all, so you’re not going to get anywhere with that.

    I think the thing about X3 that sucks is that it could have been really good, but wasn’t. As opposed to Daredevil, Elektra, Catwoman, Punisher, from which we expected, and pretty much got nothing.

    These films stand in contrast with Hulk and Superman Returns as films that weren’t necessarily ultimately successful, but had something in them which made me want to like them.

    And then there are the movies which are just good all around, the Spider-Mans, for example.

    But listen, if you like X3, great. I’m not going to tell you you shouldn’t. But for me, it’s not a good film. But you all know that. It’s all subjective really. But this site is all opinion. We never said our opinions were law. Again, lest it hasn’t been stated, myself, Conor and Ron rarely agree on anything. Of course, if we all think a movie is crap…. ;-)

  58. import says:

    Anyway, a question. Is Ghost Rider inappropriate for a 9-year-old girl? My daughter wants to see it for some reason. I guess cuz she heard I was going. As a reference, she saw Star Wars III and Harry Potter IV, both of which have some pretty raw spots. She also saw X-2 when she was like 5, and it didn’t faze her. But is there anything really nasty in this movie?

    I’m pretty liberal about what I let my girls watch in terms of scary stuff, but I wouldn’t take my 6 year-old to see it because of the scene with the penance stare. I wouldn’t want her to see that. Nine is probably borderline, but I still don’t think I’d do it.

  59. import says:

    Yea the penance stare did freak me out a bit, but thats only because as a kid one of my siblings decided to play a joke on me and put one of those fake plastic skulls on a stick and threw a black robe on it and floated it across a window I was looking out at the time. It scared the heck out of me, i though it was death come to get me. So through out the whole movie I kept getting that mental image as a kid seeing the Grim Reaper. Of couse none of my siblings confessed up to doing it though but it had to of been on of them… Right?

  60. import says:

    Wow, I didn’t really want to re-spark the X-Men debate. Listen, I can’t think of a single comic book movie that deserves more than 2 stars, ever, except maybe the original Superman, which could very possibly be 90% half-nostalgia. I mean, I’m as-of-yet unconvinced that the medium transfers well. The Spider-man movies and the X-men movies might get 2 1/2 stars if we’re to get generous. I just didn’t think there was anything THAT bad about X3 that was worse than what was in X1 and X2. I mean, characterization? Jean Grey was HORRIBLE in X2. Either Famke didn’t know what she was doing, or Singer really confused her. I agree X3 wasn’t a 10. It still made me cry though (and no, Conor, not tears of pain from sticking hot pokers in my eyes).

    I hope someday there will be a decent comic-based movie. But I sure as all-heck won’t hold my breath.

  61. import says:

    Oh, I forgot Ghost World, which was pretty good, and American Splendor, which was really good, but those aren’t really the same as super-hero comic movies.

    Ok, one thing i liked about X-2 was Logan, Bobby, Rogue and Pyro on the run. That was genuinely fun. But the CEREBRO-killing-all-of-humanity-with-a-thought plot was ass. And the ending? Jean Grey can levitate a 2-and-a-half ton aircraft plus all of its occupants, but not her own 120-pound frame? Ugh. What a pathetic way to “die.” Point out all the plot holes in X-3 that you want, they’re no worse than these. I went into that movie with low expectations. What I got was nothing more than a popcorn movie and I was satisfied.

    My problem with Superman Returns is that it was 154 minutes of beautiful movie stills, but it gave me nothing to chew on afterward. I couldn’t wait to leave the theater when it was done.

  62. import says:

    oh, and why did Magneto rip up the Golden Gate bridge instead of any of a dozen easier ways his crew could have gotten to Alcatraz? Because he wants to show everyone that he’s a fuckin’ asshole, that’s why.

  63. import says:

    Oh, I forgot Ghost World, which was pretty good, and American Splendor, which was really good, but those aren’t really the same as super-hero comic movies.

    A comic book adaptation is a comic book adaptation, whether it’s Ghost Rider or Road To Perdition. I hold each to the same standard.

  64. import says:

    I think the undercurrent to some of our reactions to X-Men:3 and Ghost Rider has to do with our 90s comics experience vs. our 2000s experience. In the 90s, spectacle and “wild new things” was a tun off for many, when all we really wanted was return to well crafted stoires focusing on core character develpment, and so in the 2000s comics are a bresh of fresh air. The movies, on the other hand, seem a bit more “90s” in that respect, and so turn us off, especially as doe by Hollywood studios that aree perpetually behind the curve. The fact that new comics talents are being sucked off to Hollywood is a good exampe.Perhap we fear a return in comics to 90s thing, and that can make us anxious…

  65. import says:

    Ghost Rider was hilariously terrible. I will buy this when it comes out. Hell, I might even see it again.

    “I got enough in me for one more ride.”
    *runs through desert, kill a lizard*
    “Well, I’m done.”

    Also, did anyone noticed that they regularly put a soft blur on Eva Mendez’s face but left her chest in perfect focus?

  66. import says:

    Glad I didn’t see it. I have never been a fan of the comic, I don’t like Cage so I’ll just be glad when this thing blows over and goes away for good.

  67. import says:

    MIB and Blade were also decent comic-book movies. And maybe Conan the Barbarian (not sure that counts). How about Tank Girl? That is another serious contender for worst comic-book movie ever.

  68. import says:

    I’m haunted. 4 days a week I climb the subway stairs at Takadanobaba (Baba) Station on my way to work and everyday for two weeks I’m greeted in the same subway stairwell by the same damn Ghost RIder movie poster, 4X6 foot long, letters “emblazoned” in Japanese, for like 3 weeks now. AHHHHHHH! And THIS MOVIE HAS LIKE 2 MORE WEEKS BEFORE IT OPENS! Arrrgghhhh, HELP! I can’t stand it! (they have yet to change the poster, it’s the same one they are using everywhere). Argggahhhh!
    I’ll watch the damn movie, if they just take the damned poster down! (This movie has the most uninspired ad art…)

  69. import says:

    I feel dumber for having seen this movie. I could have written a better script than that. I sat there thinking what the next line was before they said it and 65% of the time I was right. And what the hell was with Nick Cage’s Elvis impersonation through part of the movie? It is just another film that goes into the bad comic book movie column.

  70. import says:

    most of the dialogue could be replaced with farting and it would seem oddly more fulfilling

  71. import says:

    “light a match”

  72. import says:

    The recently released The Covenant was adapted from a comic book. Took my girlfriend to see it. Not much to write home about, but not the worst thing I’ve ever seen.

  73. import says:

    “Daredevil had some good fight scenes?” Really? Did it? Yeah, I bet Jet Li was quaking in his boots. I think a movie about cricket would have better fight scenes than Daredevil.

    I’m glad I didn’t see this in theatres. I have really given up on paying a total of 30 bucks to eat and sit down at a movie that’s not freaking fantastic.

    300, baby!

  74. import says:

    Had a hard time watching it when Blackheart was on the screen ’cause I felt he (Blackheart) looked too much like JOSH!

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