Lost - S05E09 - Namaste
156 Posted on Mar 18, 2009 in articles by Conor Kilpatrick |
Tonight's episode - Namaste
It looks like the main survivors (who really cares about the extra and/or what has happened to them?!) are back together again in the past, threatening the delicate existences that Sawyer has created for himself, Juliet, Jin, Daniel and Miles.
And of course, right when Sawyer finds happiness with Juliet, Katie falls back into his life. Isn't that just like a well written TV show? Damn them. Damn them all to hell.
Brian K. Vaughan's on co-writing duty tonight, and his episodes are usually excellent.
Speculations, theories, reactions, live blogs, you know the drill.
Comments
Last week was a cruel joke. No Amazing Spider-Man and a rerun of Lost.
This week, all is right and good in the universe.
Posted by DarthDuck on 03/18/09 at 08:47 PMSeeing Sawyer happy is just really odd. I think they have to ease the audience into it with small little bits of happiness. Still, I say give the man a break.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 08:47 PMHere's hoping for some serious Dharma details this week. I really want to see some Dr. Halliwax action. What do you suppose Miles has been doing for the last 3 years...?
Posted by Crippler on 03/18/09 at 08:53 PMOh my god it's starting!!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:00 PMFrank!
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:00 PMI wonder if Lapetus is forced to go back on the island
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:01 PMIt's like Con Air!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:02 PMI wan't planning on watching but I found myself on the couch and it started, so.... inertia takes its course.
The POW can wait, I guess.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:02 PMWhy couldn't you put the bunny back in the box?
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:03 PMA landstrip?
Well that's just....convienient....and Dues Ex Machina
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:03 PM@conor: For the good of mankind, your participation is a must! :)
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:04 PMWonder why Sun and Ben didn't disappear with the others...?
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:05 PM30 Years Earlier.....SNL was all the rage, and a young Joe Piscipo...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:05 PM@TNC: It's only a deus ex machina if it happens at the end of the story.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:05 PMSo wait...some of them jumped back and some didn't? That's never happened before. Are they the chosen ones? If so, where's the chicken and the big norweigien wielding a sword?
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:05 PMI love how much Hurley just unabashedly loves EVERYBODY. I guess that's easy without the romantic entaglements or being involved in any of the torturing.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:06 PMHere's the thing...we got a good insurance plan going...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:07 PMAwesome.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:07 PMUh.....what?
Hurley gets the classic end lines
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:07 PMSo I guess the Sun and Jin reunion is on hold for 30 years
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 09:08 PMSun and Jin are the new Desmond and Penny (who, themselves, were the new Rose and Bernard).
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:10 PMDude your English is awesome!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:11 PMNo one's stopping Jin!
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:12 PMCreepy monitors from Season 3!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:12 PMAnd Juliet's heart breaks with one word.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:13 PM@conor: Two words
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:13 PMDamn!
I forgot Mikhial doesnt come into that building til the Purge
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:15 PMI love the retro art design of the Dharma technology. It's one of my favorite things about the show.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:15 PMRadshinsky!?
*Guy who blew his brains out in the station Desmond was at*
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:16 PMMore redshirts to kill
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:17 PMThey're on the other island!!
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:17 PMAnd Ben calmly slinks off into the jungle...
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:18 PMOh yeah....this is the island The Others occupied during Season 3
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:18 PMThe technical term for "redshirts" on Lost is "meat-filled socks."
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:20 PM@Paul: Gotcha
I would have also preferred 'Skeletons with Meat on them'
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:21 PMThere's a question that's been on my mind since season 1, do you guys think that had LOST been passed on as a TV show, it would work in comic form? My first thoughts of the show were that it was odd to see a story as detailed and complicated as a comic on tv for everyone. To me there's very similar story-telling structures in this show and in comics.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:22 PMI wonder if I could string a hamock in my apartment without bringing the ceiling down on top of me.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:23 PMKnew it!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:23 PMETHAN!!!!???
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:23 PMYipes! Ethan!
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:23 PMJuliet should be careful, Michelle once beat a guy to death with a brick.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:24 PMNice!
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:24 PMI think juiet is a it freaked that she gave birth to her lover.
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 09:24 PMTotally called that shit! Where's my No-Prize?!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:24 PMor rather helped give birth
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 09:24 PM@Ghazzi - Juliet and Ethan were never lovers.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:24 PM@KriederDesigns: I'm not a big fan of TV shows continuing on in comic book form. They are usually pretty terrible. Books like BUFFY are the exception.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:25 PMKermit is playing on the tv!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:25 PM@Ghazzi - You're possibly thinking of Goodwin.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:25 PMI think Jin is going to have to kill that other dude.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:26 PM@Conor -- I didn't mean necessarily continuing on. I mean from start to finish, do you think LOST (as an entity) would have made it to be as successfull in the comic form. I agree completely though.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:26 PMWell Sayid screwed Sawyer's plan without knowning it...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:27 PM@KreiderDesigns: Ooooh, I see. I dunno - maybe? It's hard to say, it would really depend on who was writing it. Also, the structure would have to change a lot. It's possible, though.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:27 PM@Kreider - Hard to say, because LOST isn't a singular vision. It's the work of many writers.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:28 PM@conor: That other dude your referring is the man who blew his brains out in The Swan
You know, Radzinsky?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:28 PM@Conor-- I just think it would have been interesting to see what, let's say BKV, could have done with this idea in the comic form. What exactly about the structure would have to change? I think a lot of the flashbacks and flashforwards would work in comic form, with maybe a different color scheme or something to denote for certain when is when.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:31 PMThe backseat camera angle is hilarious.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:31 PMAwkwardest meet-n-greet jamboree ever.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:31 PM@P-Money-- Good point, though its still fun to think about what it would be like.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:32 PM@KriederDesigns: I think the complexity would have to be smoothed out a bit.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:33 PMBen isnt a good buddy for conversations
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:33 PMI WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN BEN AND DESMOND!
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:34 PMFrank needs to grow his crazy beard back.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:34 PMI haven't done this much math, voluntarily, since I played 24 in grade school.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:34 PM@conor: YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA WAIT AT LEAST 3 EPISODES!! :)
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:35 PM@TNC: I KNOW, IT'S JUST FUN TO THINK ABOUT!
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:35 PM"And how'd that work out for everyone?" - Heh.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:36 PMDamn Sun....
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:36 PMHahahaha!
Some times Ben isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:36 PMThere's an episode coming up called "Some Like it Hoth."
Badass.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:37 PM@Conor--Gotcha. Still. I'd be onboard for at least the first arc if they decided to adapt or expand the world, depending of course on creative team. I don't want to read LOST by Jeff Loeb and Chris Bacchalo.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:38 PMWhich is funny because Loeb wrote for the show in season one.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:39 PMI love how they've made Sun a total badass now. They took the stereotypical submissive asian woman and said "ehhh fudgeit".
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:39 PM@Paul:.....He did!?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:39 PMHe wrote "The Moth." The one with Charlie and the cave-in.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:40 PM@Paul--Totally didn't know that. Removing foot from mouth.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:41 PMI'm totally lying. That was Paul Dini. Loeb produced though.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:41 PM@Paul: Huh....must've been before he was stricken with the 'suck' virus.
Hey it's that guy! (still dont know his name)
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:42 PM@Paul: Oh you....:)
Still that was Dini? That is awesome
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:42 PMJimmy Barrett, you son of a bitch!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:43 PMHe wrote/produced during season 2. So it is written (on Wiki) so it is.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:43 PMThat's what Jack came back for....to make sure the toilets dont overflow
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:43 PM@TNC- He's a man of science, after all, that is biology. No?
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:44 PMThat's where he's from. I didn't make the Mad Men connection.
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 09:44 PMJeph Loeb was a supervising producer for 12 episodes of LOST and that means he was probably involved in the writing process.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:45 PM@Kreider: I just find it funny that he was told he was going to save everyone....and now he's a janitor
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:45 PMI have to start watching that show. I keep hearing that it's great but I have no idea when it is on.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:46 PMThey are so lucky they know so much about the Others
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:46 PMSun and Frank and Ben are in the present, right?
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:46 PM@TNC - That's because it is funny. Haha. Also, you know Sawyer had something to do with his assignment.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:47 PM@conor: Correct, so is Locke and the other plane survivors
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:47 PMIn seasons 2 or 3, this episode would probably be three episodes.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:47 PM@Conor- I don't know, I think they were just on the other island where Kate, Jack and Sawyer were being held in Season 3
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:47 PMOh jeez....Christian again
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:48 PM"Yes, he is 30 years ago."
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:48 PMI'm pretty sure Sun and the others are in te "present". Defintely after the compound was attacked y the military guys last season.
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 09:49 PMjust dropping in to say good episdode so far, i love how we are slowly seeing the inside of DARMHA. Its makeing the purge that Ben preforms ever more evil
Posted by TonyStark4prez on 03/18/09 at 09:50 PMI like to pretend that Christian and the character he played in ER season one are the same person.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:51 PM@PaulMontgomery: It's entirely possible - that dude on ER was crazy.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:51 PMI am not even shocked anymore when Christian comes on. It's like 'Oh it's Christian, hey there!'
That scene, I believe, pretty much showed that the Black Smoke Monster is pretending to be Christian or vice versa
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:51 PMAnd Bernard too. "I shouldn't be doing this surgery! I'm just a dentist!"
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:52 PMI'm a Dentist damnit, not a Doctor!
....sorry that was lame
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:53 PMGo to hell, Jimmy Barrett!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:54 PMWas one of those guys Horus?
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:54 PMHamburgers and Punch!
Oh boy!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:54 PMAnd the love square begins....
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:56 PMThe love square continues...
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 09:57 PMI like that Sawyer can kick back and read even when shit is really fuckin weird.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:57 PMIt's a plot point! Awesome!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 09:58 PMFight! Fight! Fight!
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:58 PMWell what Sawyer is saying is pretty much true...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:58 PMOkay this tension feels like it came out of nowhere
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 09:59 PMI like Sawyer as the leader. But not as much as Sawyer likes it. Haha. It's great to see him large and in charge.
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 09:59 PMIt's really weird to see a (mostly) clean shaven Sawyer. Doesn't look right.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 09:59 PMBen the kid
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 10:00 PMITS BEN!
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 10:00 PMBRILLIANT!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 10:00 PMIs this Ben?
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 10:00 PMOh great.....
Ben...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:00 PMWELL PLAYED!!!
Posted by KreiderDesigns on 03/18/09 at 10:01 PMSayid's gears were turning so hard they were grinding.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 10:01 PMHoly crap, it's Harry Potter!....i mean Ben Linus
Posted by HermitHomeboy on 03/18/09 at 10:02 PM"Now I know why I'm here." Holy shit! Sayid is the T1000!
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 10:02 PMFor a second there, the kid was staring at Sayid the exact same freaky way old Ben looks at people
Posted by Ghazzi on 03/18/09 at 10:03 PMOkay so now Sayid knows Ben is a kid..... and the preview has Sayid saying 'I know why I came to the island'
Seeing the connections?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:03 PMI understand that Sawyer should tell Jack he is the leader and he needs to be listen too.
But that whole speech with Jack not being a good leader, and just pretty much rubbing it in....that threw me off.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:05 PMHow is it that this show just keeps getting better and better???
Awesome show. I had to keep picking my jaw up off the ground. And the preview for next week? Wow.
Posted by DarthDuck on 03/18/09 at 10:05 PM@TNC: Jack and Sawyer just don't like each other - it's always been that way and it it always will. Sometimes it's overt, and sometimes it's buried but the the animostity is always there on some level. It comes from them both being natural leaders and jockying for position and it comes from them both loving Kate.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 10:08 PM@conor: I understand, and the past should be factored in to that whole scene. But still, I dont see why that was the oppertunity to tell Jack how much he sucked as a leader.
I thought this whole time being a Dharma initative member made him a more calmer person
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:08 PM@TNC: Because for the first time, Sawyer is totally running the show now, even with Jack around. And he can't help but rub it in Jack's face.
Posted by conor on 03/18/09 at 10:09 PMI did make him calm. Two seasons ago he would've punched Jack!!
Posted by DarthDuck on 03/18/09 at 10:09 PMAlso, imagine giving up your seat on the rescue chopper, spending three years on the island while Jack is back home. That's a lot of time to think. And a big shock too. Better believe he's gonna give Jack a piece of his mind.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 10:09 PM@TheNextChampion
also, Jack came right out and said he was being a bad leader, pointing out that he was just reading instead of figuring out the Sayid situation.
Alright well it's just a nitpick to be honest.
All I saw was:
'What's happening to Sayid?'-Jack 'He's ok, I'm thinking about it unlike you'-Sawyer....then he just rambles for a couple of mintues on why he's a better leader.
Again @conor and @Paul, I understand what your saying....it just felt off to me. But it didnt hurt an otherwise a fantastic episode.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:12 PMI couldn't post during the show, but now I've got some questions....
1) Ethan - Ethan was an other. How did he join them? Didn't we think that only Ben had survived the purge?
2) I believe Kate and Sawyer were building that airstrip during season 3 while they lived in the polar bear cages.
3) Will we now have to face the inevitable time travel question of "Would you kill Hitler?"
Posted by Crippler on 03/18/09 at 10:14 PM
Because he didn't have the opportunity to say this to him for three years. It all comes pouring out at the first chance.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 10:14 PM@Crippler - 1. Is a very good question. 2. Is...actually a really funny sentence.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 03/18/09 at 10:18 PM2 IS very funny, especially in it's full form of "I believe that Kate and Sawyer were building that airstrip during season while living in the electrically-trapped, Pavlovian polar bear cages and engaging in dirty cage sex while Jack watched."
As for #3, I've been championing the "would you kill Hitler" question since the season started. We're going to find out what Ben did to Sayid (he would appear to have killed Nadia?) and then we're going to find out if Sayid is going to kill a little boy just because of what he grows up to be.
Posted by Crippler on 03/18/09 at 10:24 PMI know we discussed about this last week but:
Does the love triangle (or trapezoid as it is now) with Jack, Kate, and Sawyer (and maybe Juliet)? I mean seriously....3 episodes ago Kate had sex with Jack. Am I suppose to care about Kate missing Sawyer? When she totally will make out or have sex with either of the two guys?
Julet/Sawyer should stay, Jack should pine for Juliet which makes sense, and Kate should just die alone....or that could be my bias showing on the last sentence.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:33 PMEdit: Sorry I ment to finish the first question with: 'does the love triangle really matter?'
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 10:34 PMYour friends have always been the caretaker.
Posted by hbkhumanity on 03/18/09 at 11:02 PM@Coner. Tend to agree with most things you saw but I have to disagree with your assessment of that Jack and Sawyer dislike each other. Sawyer himself say at one point that Jack is the "closest thing he has as a friend on the island." While I don't think they are the best of friends, I do believe that they are similiar to the Han and Luke friendship in a New Hope and Empire. What Sawyer tells Jack in this episode is an accurate analysis of Jack's leadership skills, it is someone close to him giving criticism. The most interesting part of that Jack seems relieved by it. You can almost see the burden lift from him.
Posted by mattstee on 03/19/09 at 02:04 AM@mattstee: There is definitely a healthy amount of respect between Jack and Sawyer, but just as much animosity. They would never be friends on the outside.
Posted by conor on 03/19/09 at 02:16 AM@Conor: That's true ... but how many of the survivors could you say would be friends outside? I also hate to go back to Star Wars references but if Han and Luke weren't thrown together would they have been friends?
Posted by mattstee on 03/19/09 at 02:21 AM@mattstee: There is no animosity between Han and Luke. Their competing over Leia (ick) was good natured, for the most part.
Posted by conor on 03/19/09 at 02:25 AM@Conor: The Leia animosity was one thing, but I also felt that they didn't see eye to eye alot. Luke seemed to not have the best opinion of Hans decision making until Jedi.
That being said, I don't hold the stance that they are best friends, I just feel that we are at a point in the story where they don't hate each other (Jack would have called him James). I think Sawyer's reaction didn't come from "I am awesome and you suck" perspective but a reaction to stress and a long-standing trend of Sawyer venting on someone.
I feel another interesting note is that sawyer's criticism is Jack only reacts, but I have yet to see sawyer in DI not doing anything but reacting.
Posted by mattstee on 03/19/09 at 02:36 AMthis season is just delivering on so many levels... can't wait for next week's ep!
Posted by macdad34 on 03/19/09 at 10:03 AMI'd like to point out, that the conversation between Jack and Sawyer was pretty much egged on by Jack. Sawyer didn't just open up on Jack out of the blue to tell him that his leadership style sucked, but rather was firing back after Jack said (paraphrasing) "Really, because it looked like you were reading a book." At which point Sawyer got pissed and told Jack to eff off, that he wasn't in charge anymore.
Posted by JonSamuelson on 03/19/09 at 11:34 AMLate to the party, darn it, but I did want to point something out. That airstrip didn't just appear out of nowhere, it was built by Sawyer and Kate back in Season 3.
Posted by pyynk on 03/20/09 at 01:17 AMI am devoting a lot more fret-power than I should to wondering where Rose and Bernard are right now.
Posted by Jimski on 03/20/09 at 01:47 AMIn response to Crippler's question about Ben being the only purge survivor, i just watch S3's "Man Behind the Curtain". In it Ben told Locke that he was one of the few that were smart enough to make sure they didnt end up in the pit, which implies more purge survivors.
Posted by Askanison on 03/20/09 at 08:16 AM@Askanison: Nice! I think a lot of folks missed that, me included!
Posted by pyynk on 03/20/09 at 04:04 PMThis is a great work of mind and excellency, I hope they will still continue to come back and finding more fake and undisclosed island, I will be happy to see them in 1805 lol. It is cool I wnat to see if Hurley look like his great great great and great grandfather of 16th century or maybe James Sawyer Lefluer generation was from this misterious island :)
Posted by dz0rn on 03/26/09 at 11:22 AM


Hey Sawyer had a happy life going, he was living well for 3 years before the Six came back.
I would love to know what happened to Bernard, Rose, and the rest the show seemed to drop off the face of the earth though.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/18/09 at 08:42 PM