Heroes - S04E01 + 02 - Orientation + Jump, Push, Fall
305 Posted on Sep 21, 2009 in articles by Conor Kilpatrick |
Volume Five: Redemption
Hey! Heroes is back! And it's two hours tonight!
This season, Heroes is going "back to basics" which is often mentioned by producers as going "back to season one." Many people, I assume, hope that it really means that it will go back to being "good." Me, I've always enjoyed the show (for the most part) and am looking forward to another year of Heroes.
As always, I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.
Comments
I'll probably watch if only for T-Bag/Tommy Dolan.
Posted by sgrsickness on 09/21/09 at 07:20 PM
Oh its not that bad of a show. Compared to some of the other people with powers TV shows, this one is pretty much on top.
Posted by Bryce31 on 09/21/09 at 07:22 PM
I also miss this show being good...but it's been too bad for too long, and there's just too much else I could be doing/watching/reading...I think I will pretend this show got cancelled unfairly at the end of its great first season and try to forget everything that has happened since then.
Posted by bansidhewail on 09/21/09 at 07:25 PM
@Bryce31 I get a kick out of Heroes, but I watched Fringe for the first time, last night, and thought, "this is the show that Heroes should have been." The only thing missing is Maki "I Can Do No Wrong Though I Am A Complete Media Whore" Oka (seriously: the only person who's been on more talk shows in rapid succession is currently president).
Posted by Quinn on 09/21/09 at 07:44 PM
@Quinn: Promotion is considering being a media whore now?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 07:46 PM
I do hope this season will be better, but really, the show hasnt been as bad as people make it seem. Yes, it has slipped over the last two seasons, but still, its probably the best (in my opinion) comic book genre/type of show on TV. And still one of the better ones in the overall primetime lineup. The keys to making it good are less of Suresh (a lot less actually, I dont really like him) and to seperate Nathan and Sylar back into two people. I really liked Nathan as a character. He was one of my favorites. Also, I liked Sylar a whole lot better (the beginning of season 3 I think) when he was trying to clean up his image and on a quest kind of like to redeem himself. I think that would have made a really good storyline if they had not put him back to killing.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 07:48 PM
Looking forward to this; loved season 1, almost hated S2, enjoyed S3 for the most part; can't wait until Sylar realizes what's going on and cleans house.
Posted by hbkhumanity on 09/21/09 at 07:49 PM
@ThePunisherMAX: I was so happy they did't redeem Sylar. It's such an overused cliche to make he popular villain into a hero and thus ruin everything that was good about the character.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 07:50 PM
Unless they make Sylar into the kind of killer like Dexter Morgan (from Dexter on Showtime). Make it a storyline where he only kills those deserving of death.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 07:50 PM
@conor yeah, I can see what you are saying. It was kind of fun just to sit back during seasons one and two and watch Sylar be evil pretty much just for the sake of being evil. I just think that they should do either one or the other. Dont make him float back and forth forever on what he wants to be.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 07:52 PM
Damn I didn't know Heroes was back on tonight. So many show tonight. Thank you DVR.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 07:53 PM
Here we go.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:00 PM
@ThePunisherMax & @conor: I didn't like how they explained that his powers made him inherently evil and how Peter went wacko after aquiring Sylar's ability.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:01 PM
What kind of accent is he attempting? Irish?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:01 PM
Carnies. Circus folk.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:03 PM
Mutant circus? They need a conjoined set of triplet martial artists.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:04 PM
@conor: Nooo!!!! Carnie folk, they're all evil.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:04 PM
That dorm room is like twice as big as my freshman year dorm was.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:04 PM
I hope Frank Quitely draws the circus scenes.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:05 PM
I blame all of you and the likelihood of this live-blogging being more entertaining than the actual show.
... Did the costume director just tell their assistants to grab 'goth-y' clothes and ended up w/ a guy in flame printed pajamas?
Oh, man, if this Annie chick was my roommate I'd strangle her.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:05 PM
This scene reminds me to hate Transformers 2. Heh.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:06 PM
Psycho roommate but still better than my college roomies.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:06 PM
I had a girlfriend in college who tried to plan her life like that. I didn't quite work out accordingly.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:06 PM
Haha... Hiro on a billboard
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:07 PM
It's hard to liveblog during the Hiro/Ando scenes.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:07 PM
Haha -- Ando is like Milhouse.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:07 PM
Hate the roommate already. Good evening lads and lasses.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:08 PM
Dial H for Hiro.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:08 PM
"Bull Grapho"
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:09 PM
Hah! "Heroes for Hire"
Posted by HermitHomeboy on 09/21/09 at 08:09 PM
They should have just gone for it and done "Dial H For Hiro"
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:09 PM
Oooooh! 12 whole blocks! That would take like less than 10 minutes on foot.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:09 PM
Peter met Spider-Man
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:09 PM
So now even GE is gonna make irreverant and offbeat commercials? Ugh.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:11 PM
Peter is an EMT now. What's the deal with superpowered EMT's? I've been watching too much Smallville season 8.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:11 PM
Strangle her, Claire!
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:13 PM
Is this the one Claire's gonna go all experiment-y on? I'd sooner strangle her.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:14 PM
If someone knows my name yet still refers to me first as "roomie," I'd hurt that person.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:14 PM
What a jackass professor. Its just a 100's class. Christ.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:14 PM
The prof. was reading 'Pride and Prejudice and Zombies'
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:15 PM
@captbastrd: Nope, it's the girl from CALIFORNICATION she's going to take an interest in.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:15 PM
Did I just see the origins for The Adventures of Pete and Pete?
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:15 PM
The Japanese version of the cat stuck in a tree...
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:17 PM
So, I forget -- is Sylar still pretendng to be Nathan? Where did we leave that?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:18 PM
@conor
Yeah, I just read somewhere that they planned on doing that, I didn't read up on it. I'm like roughly two/thirds of America; fuck checking facts!
Nevermind, the exposition is answering my questions.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:19 PM
Break the glass, HRG!
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:20 PM
I think I've seen this anti-drug ad before.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:20 PM
HRG is now a Newb.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:21 PM
HRG should of got the carfax.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 08:21 PM
this is so awesome!!
Posted by rayclark on 09/21/09 at 08:22 PM
bigyanks wins.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:24 PM
jinkies my glasses!!!
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:24 PM
"Now that I've escaped that deathtrap... let me put on my notable accessory"
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:24 PM
Danko...?
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:25 PM
So if Tracy can exist as ice and as water... I would assume she can exist as vapor. Water never really goes away (right?)... does that mans she's immortal now?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:25 PM
Watch out, Claire! If you have sex with her, she'll punch you in the face.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:27 PM
Maybe if they keep her trapped as a block of ice in a freezer, they could neutralize her.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:27 PM
It can go away, but it has some of the most powerful chemical bonds known. Its hard.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:27 PM
@conor: she is basically like Iceman right? She is immortal, at least in her ice form.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:28 PM
"I have to take care of something... talk to someone who doesn't pry."
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:28 PM
No one over 18 says "On the D.L." Or at least they shouldn't.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:28 PM
Oh noes. Hiro's power backfires!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:29 PM
Did Hiro leave Ando frozen in time for 15 minutes and just stand there? Nice.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:29 PM
Let's see if this is the season they finally figure out how to use Hiro.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:29 PM
Cripes! They just have to nullify Hiro every season, don't they?
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:29 PM
@conor That would thrill me. But I doubt it. My money is on the continued slapstick caricature.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:30 PM
Is her driver named Alfred?
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:30 PM
Office pool. How many episodes until Sylar is Sylar again?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:31 PM
They keep neutering all the heroes powers. I want to see them kick ass.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:31 PM
@conor: They haven't got Hiro right since he came back from feudal Japan.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:32 PM
I want a big expensive sports car and a younger woman with questionable morals!
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:32 PM
Angela should never ever give advice ever.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:33 PM
I love that Matt Jr. looks at his dad like "...the Hell?"
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:33 PM
@JesTr: I'd say that they haven't gotten him right since season one. Sending him to Feudal Japan was the first big mistake.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:33 PM
Memory wipes never take!
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:35 PM
Angela is the only character that keeps getting better it seems.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:35 PM
At some point, Nathan's going to have a Claire moment and everything's going to go to piss.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:35 PM
@conor
Agreed. In the end, I remember liking that story, but it was an example of wasting his character. It's because he really has the ultimate power. He's their Blackbolt, they needed to hamper him with a "Can't Talk" problem, except they did the opposite of what makes Blackbolt works.
I hate these Bing commercials.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:37 PM
Hiro is on the show just to cash in, there's no way he can be happy with the character. Assuming he even gives a shit.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 08:37 PM
I would love if they did some sort of reboot taking place after season 1.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:37 PM
@bigyanks: If, by "cash in", you mean being a working actor -- which is something that the vast majority of actors are not -- then yes, I agree.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:38 PM
"Hey dad, any chance you could put two in he back of Annie's skull?"
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:39 PM
That roomate is such a bitch. Where is Sylar to cut a skull open when you need him.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:39 PM
@JesTr: I think "bitch" might be a bit harsh. She's just really type-A annoying.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:41 PM
Power made so they can show half naked hotties for a 1000 Alex.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:41 PM
Congrats to Ray Park for getting a speaking role.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:41 PM
What kind of power would you call that? Back clairvoyance?
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:42 PM
Are we sure Jeph Loeb is no longer involved in this show? That seems like a fairly convenient power for a hot chick to have.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:42 PM
He was allowed to speak as Toad. :D
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:42 PM
@conor: she was narking Claire out.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:42 PM
This is kind of like a twisted version of The Tattooed Man.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:42 PM
I don't understand what just happened...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:43 PM
@zombox: I know. But his speaking roles are few and far between.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:43 PM
"This season, we're gonna bring it back to season 1. We're also gonna give natural dialogue a try."
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:44 PM
I wonder how many times people have been promised 'getting their life back' in this show?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:44 PM
Lady Tattoo Man. Oop, wrong publisher!
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:44 PM
"Suck her up in a wet vac" sounds kind of dirty...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:46 PM
Ha. Noah rules.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:46 PM
Did the Haitian just mind wiupe Noah or Captain Badass?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:46 PM
Return of the hatian. @Conor touché
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 08:46 PM
Maybe I'm not badass enough, but I rarely throw my shirts down with deliberate force.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:47 PM
Question answered.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:48 PM
That's how I answer my door.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:48 PM
Its Deadpool!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:48 PM
Someone brought two knives to a gun fight.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:48 PM
She should pull a Michael Scott and explain exactly who she... oh shit! That guy died! Oh shit she got all watery slashed!
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:48 PM
This show needs to stop killing its good villains.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:49 PM
Cool so Tracy is like Hydroman and Iceman combined.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:49 PM
@Tork: I think he had run his course. There wasn't a lot left to do with him but run around in the same territory already covered. Now we've got the evil carnies.
Paul is going to be sad he dropped off this season.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:50 PM
@conor & @Tork I won't miss him but I miss Kristen Bell.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 08:52 PM
@Conor-- I don't know. He could have just gone away and came back later. He could have had potential for later arcs.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:52 PM
I've never played Guitar Hero when you can't hear the music, but I can't imagine it's a lot of fun...
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:53 PM
Wonder who helped sponsor the show this season?
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 08:53 PM
Wonder how much Guitar Hero paid for this plug...
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:54 PM
Gretchen is a Decepticon in disguise. I'm calling it now. She wants the Matrix.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:55 PM
And now for the hijinks portion of the show. Hiro and Ando in "Weekend at Bernies 4: Tokyo Drift"
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:55 PM
Someone kill the bitch! I'm sure gretchin will end up being Sylar's daughter.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 08:55 PM
In Soviet Russia, time freeze YOU!
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:55 PM
Oh snap! Hiro gets a serious plotline!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:56 PM
@captbastrd @zombox: It's going to happen more and more as fewer people wach network TV and skip the commercials. I don't mind product placement if it means shows I like get to stay on the air.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 08:56 PM
Ando honestly can't remember Hiro SAVED THE WORLD in Season One. You can't change that stuff, man.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:58 PM
I'm okay with product placement. Especially on shows I don't have to pay for. If I had to pay to watch this I might get a little more aggravated.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 08:59 PM
The old carny reminds me of Pat Hingle.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 08:59 PM
YES! I mean... erm... holy crap!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:00 PM
I swear it wasn't me!
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 09:00 PM
Well, then.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:00 PM
YESSSS!!! Thank you killer of annoying roommates!
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:00 PM
Who else suddenly misses Carnivale?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:00 PM
That baby is a susprisingly good actor...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:02 PM
Oh shit Sylar personality is in Matt!
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:02 PM
Gretchen is a carnie following Claire.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 09:03 PM
Cool Astroboy trailer.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:04 PM
Damn Tony Romo didn't teach Jessica anything
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 09:04 PM
Parkman is the Sentry!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:05 PM
@zombox exactly what I was thinking but more like Emma Frost.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:07 PM
Sylar is no Professor Stein.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:07 PM
Ouch, HRG. Ouch.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:07 PM
Ooooouch...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:08 PM
HRG...how the mighty have fallen.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:08 PM
She killed, like, 5 dudes and she suddenly feels bad? WTF... inconsistent characterization.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:09 PM
Don't touch! Don't touch!
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:09 PM
Now Hiro is going to go sing Johnny B. Goode.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:10 PM
Ah, a movie after my own heart.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:11 PM
@conor: and make out with his mom.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:12 PM
I love how there was a DC and a Marvel version of the same joke.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 09:12 PM
This new Tatoo Man guy is kind of interesting. I'm not quite sure yet whether he'll ultimatly end up being a hero or villan.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:13 PM
Hey, missed the first hour, anyone wanna catch me up real quick?
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:13 PM
@ThePunisherMax: He's definitely the villain.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:14 PM
The storyline of Hiro dying could be really good, but I dont like it when he is stuck in the past. Those kind of time travel situations never work out good for the show.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:14 PM
Ah Gretchen... gonna take Claire's virginity and be a murdering sociopath...
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:15 PM
The problem with him being stuck in the past is that he doesn't have his usual relationships and supporting cast.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:16 PM
Poor Ando.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:16 PM
@zombox: This isn't permanent. He'll be back in teh present shortly.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:17 PM
Wow, it wasn't like it was unclear that Littel Hiro just ran into Little Ando... his sister must be... unpleasant...
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:18 PM
They're gonna try to split the characters up this season arent they. A group of them witht he Tatoo man, and a group of them going against him. Kind of make it where the lines are blurred on who's doing the right thing and who's not.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:19 PM
For such a comic book nerd, Hiro is pretty dense. If you change the past how would the people who got changed know you changed them?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:19 PM
I don't think I would be so happy if I just set up my sister and best friend
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:20 PM
Not so poor Ando.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:20 PM
@greendart32: Do you not like your best friend very much?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:21 PM
Dang... Noah's good.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:21 PM
@zombox Thats exactly what I thought. Ando wouldnt notice any change because thats the way he had been for years if Hiro changed him.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:21 PM
I'd probably be happy for my sister. It be hard for me to be best friends with someone who was a total douche. So he'd probably treat her reasonably well.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:22 PM
Gotta say, a Tracy/HRG team-up might have some potential.
Posted by HermitHomeboy on 09/21/09 at 09:23 PM
I'm enjoying this so far. I can't decide if this show should have one cohesive plotline, or let everyone have their own thing going.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:24 PM
lol nah im just jealous of the time the spend with each other instead of with me. Its one thing to lose a friend but my sister and a friend at the same time?
(this actually happened to me. True story)
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:24 PM
Heh heh, Roy the water man.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 09:26 PM
@conor they should all have seperate storylines. When you get them all together, I think it kind of gets confusing about who is working with who and things like that. Season worked a lot better when they focused on each character instead of stuffing all of them into the overall plot.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:26 PM
I still think Matt's wife is a bad guy some how.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:27 PM
Reading minds so you can bust drug rings is a-Ok in my book.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:27 PM
How long after the last volume is this one?
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:27 PM
Oops. Meant to reference season 1 in my post a second ago.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:27 PM
@conor: Let them all have their own story and they can converge with other's plots throughout the season.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:27 PM
Remind me: Mohinder still alive?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:27 PM
No, Noah. Take the mustard.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:28 PM
Peter and HRG must shop at the same grocery store.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:28 PM
@JesTr exactly. Thats how it needs to be.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:28 PM
Peter's kind of self-righteous here...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:28 PM
@greendart32 Six weeks, I think. Angela said something earlier about it being six weeks (I think thats what she said) since Matt cleared Nathans mind, so that'd be my guess.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:29 PM
Mom sense tingling!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:30 PM
Gretchen is all tact. All tact.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:30 PM
Claire should be careful to not write any books around this chick.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:30 PM
@thepunishermax
ok thanks.
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:30 PM
I can see where this is going..Claire's new friend is a psycho with powers. Weird lesbian seductive powers.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:31 PM
man Peter seems a lot more chipper than usual
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:32 PM
I kind of feel bad for Noah. He has it pretty bad right now.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:32 PM
@greendart32: He's happy.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:32 PM
A pouch... Danko was in X-Force!
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:32 PM
Poor Bank Guy.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:33 PM
I like goody two shoes Peter. Peter should pretty much always be season 1 Peter. He's sort of the Cyclops of the show to me.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:33 PM
peter happy?
did I miss something?
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:33 PM
@greendart32: He's got his old life back. he's using his abilities to help people. He's clearly happy in what he's doing now.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:34 PM
@Tork: Hahahaha a pouch and Deadpool showed up. Did they trade Loeb for Liefeld I wonder?
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:34 PM
@zombox
yeah, hes always been the most overtly hero of all the characters. Except for maybe Hiro
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:34 PM
My friend called and I had to console her over her losing a grandparent for a half hour... what'd I miss?
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:34 PM
@conor
Ok, gotcha. good to see some development
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:37 PM
Speed Dueling!
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:37 PM
That's what I'm talkin' about!!!
Posted by HermitHomeboy on 09/21/09 at 09:37 PM
@captbastrd: Hiro went back int time and played matchmaker with Ando and his sister. Someone kille Claire's roommate. HRG's wife has a boyfriend. Ummm....
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:38 PM
Ok, definitely digging the show so far
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:39 PM
The music seems inappropriate in these two scenes.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:39 PM
I like this chipper, less-emo Peter better.
Posted by HermitHomeboy on 09/21/09 at 09:39 PM
Food fight! Food fight! Foo-- no? Okay.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:40 PM
Bitch is crazy...
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:40 PM
The car the new girl drives looks alot like the one Claire had stolen.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:40 PM
The Decepticon is really creepy...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:41 PM
"Office Recovery Group"? What's that? For people who miss when THE OFFICE was really good?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:41 PM
@conor
Alright, thanks, good to go!
You shut your mouth! The Office is always good!
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:42 PM
@conor
LOL
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:42 PM
I really like Sylar being part of Matt's mind. I think Matt is an interesting character as it is, and this only makes it better.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:43 PM
AH!
I just realized that was Simon the Cylon!
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:43 PM
Ok what's with the psycho Nancy Drew and why is Claire all Gung-Ho with this shit.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 09:43 PM
I'm with Tork, but that was funny. (C'mon! Jim and Pam are gonna have the wittiest baby ever!)
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:43 PM
@ThePunisherMAX: I agree with the Sylar thing. It's an interesting development for Parkman.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:44 PM
I have a lot of hope for Surrogates. Loved the graphics novels.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:44 PM
I twittered this before, but seriously: song parodies in commercials should be banned.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:46 PM
Holyfield never needs to ever be in a dress. You've assaulted my brain, Taco Bell.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:46 PM
And back to the cornball...
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:47 PM
Ando's rocking the Hitler hair...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:47 PM
There should be a picture made with Hiro taking Spidey's place from last week's Cupid cover.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:47 PM
Sadly, Hiro and Ando are the weakest part of all this. Except for th brief scene with the Tattooed Man.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:47 PM
Hiro is going to quantum Leap?
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:48 PM
What will happen??? Will Parkman use his powers to get the info on the drug dealers?!?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:48 PM
"Why're you looking at my forehead?"
That was great.
@conor
No, he used crazy to get a name!
Oh dear...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:50 PM
Sylar is Parkman's fucked up Jiminy Cricket.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:50 PM
Crazy is stronger than super powers. Just ask women, we fall for it every time.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:50 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo(ah)!!
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:51 PM
HRG?????
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:51 PM
Sylar's like a crazy Ninja Ninja from Samurai Jack.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:51 PM
Sylar being in Parkman's mind is easily the best thing to come out of tonights episode so far.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:51 PM
NOOOOOAH!!!
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:51 PM
Don't mess with Darth Maul.
Posted by Devastron on 09/21/09 at 09:52 PM
Heh. You go, Puddy.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:52 PM
Oh no! Dont kill off Noah! Actually, I dont think they will. He's too good of a character and too important to the story to do that.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:52 PM
Yay, HRG lives.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:53 PM
I made a joke earlier, but is there a new head writer? The dialogue is much snappier than I remember. It's an improvement for sure.
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:53 PM
Noah and Tracey... hooking up?
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:54 PM
@captbastrd Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I know they got rid of Jeph Loeb, and somebody else (Coleite, was that his name?) But yeah, I think they do.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:54 PM
I hope they aren't hooking up. That's just... no...
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:55 PM
Really, now Parkman is gonna have to put up with his wife cheating on him? Thats horrible.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:55 PM
@zombox: She would definitely fall under the category of a younger woman with questionable morals.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:55 PM
Parkman: Jealous Asshole!
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 09:56 PM
Oooooh, Bad Parkman!
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:56 PM
I didn't watch the last half of the last season... what happened to Speedy McCrutches Girl?
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 09:56 PM
tick tick tick....
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:56 PM
PunisherMAX-- She did it in season one.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:56 PM
@captbastrd: She died.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:56 PM
I dont blame Parkman. His wife looked way too interested.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:57 PM
@captbastrd
dead
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:57 PM
Who didn't see this coming?
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:57 PM
Claire is her own crash test dummy.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:57 PM
Ah... he got over it then, eh?
What're ya gonna do with the blood, Claire?? Nice going, now you'll have to seduce her to keep the secret!
The ribs thing was not cool.
Posted by Tork on 09/21/09 at 09:58 PM
Does Claire still not feel pain?
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 09:58 PM
@Tork true, I'm just saying that his life has gotten a lot better since then, (except the whole Sylar thing). If she were to do that again, It would really push him over the edge.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 09:58 PM
@captbastrd: When you're a character on a show trying to move on from the past, you get over stuff quick-like.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:59 PM
ok whats the tatoo mans deal?
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 09:59 PM
@JesTR: She always feels pain.
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 09:59 PM
@conor
True.
So how did The Tattooed Man move the earth in the first scene? Does he have multiple powers?
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 10:00 PM
I called it Gretchen being a carnie.
Posted by bigyanks on 09/21/09 at 10:00 PM
Hey. Not a bad episode. My tenative assessment is very hopeful. This season seems tighter, more focused. It feels like they have a goal.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 10:00 PM
"It's the Jay Leno Show! Featuri-"
TV off.
@conor: At one point she didn't. I couldn't remember if she could now or not.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 10:01 PM
Monday Night Football here I come. Thanks for hosting Conor.
Posted by zombox on 09/21/09 at 10:02 PM
see ya next week
Posted by greendart32 on 09/21/09 at 10:02 PM
I really liked this episode. I have high hopes for this season. It was definitly a good premiere.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 10:04 PM
Damn. I was really intending on being too cool for school with Heroes, but I'm probably going to keep watching it. You're all bastards. Witty, witty bastards!
Posted by captbastrd on 09/21/09 at 10:04 PM
Strong opener. As Morgan Freeman said in SHAWSHANK, "I hope."
Posted by conor on 09/21/09 at 10:05 PM
Preview looked interesting. Sylar tuns Parkman evil, or just bipolar maybe. Looks to be a good season.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 10:05 PM
So far, so good. I will definitely tune in next week.
Posted by JesTr on 09/21/09 at 10:07 PM
So Sylar is to Parkman as Bushman is to Moon Knight? Okay, I'm intrigued
Posted by formerboygenius on 09/21/09 at 10:09 PM
@formerboygenius Nice analogy. Thats a really good way to put it. Thats the exact relationship they're gonna have.
Posted by ThePunisherMAX on 09/21/09 at 10:10 PM
@conor-The pigment used in the tatoo ink is probably dirt based. If you know anyone's still paying attention to the liveblog. Damn my need for non-online socializing.
Posted by supersnac90 on 09/21/09 at 10:36 PM
uh, I couldn't watch past the first hour. I seem to remember the reason for the short order was to trim the fat. What to they do? They open with a 2 hour long episode in which nothing really happens in the first hour. I can't wait till the end of the season, because that's when Chuck returns.
Posted by muddi900 on 09/22/09 at 10:19 AM
@Bryce- It's not bad when you compare it to other shitty shows, good point.
I'm out. Might watch online once the season has finished, but I have no interest in commiting any more time to this show.
Posted by Ruo21 on 09/22/09 at 11:21 AM
Can someone please explain to me why Danko had a key in his stomache lol.
Posted by Blitheh on 09/22/09 at 11:43 AM
HRG definatly is most deserving of some Tracy action.
Posted by Blitheh on 09/22/09 at 11:50 AM
This garbage of a show needs mercy-killing.
Posted by BrowncoatJedi on 09/22/09 at 01:20 PM
@Blitheh: He probably swallowed it to keep someone from getting it from him.
Posted by conor on 09/22/09 at 01:24 PM
I liked it showed promise....the first episodes usually do, it's when the story ramps up that they have an issue keeping all the balls going.
Posted by Crucio on 09/22/09 at 01:55 PM
Last night's premiere was down 46% from last year's premiere. Good riddance Heroes!
Posted by BrowncoatJedi on 09/22/09 at 02:11 PM
@BrowncoatJedi: Did you watch it? If not there's no trolling allowed.
Posted by conor on 09/22/09 at 02:15 PM
season 3 was so god-awful that I almost returned seasons 1 and 2 on blu-ray so I didn't stain my home video collection
Posted by rjspring on 09/22/09 at 02:38 PM
Definitely better than last season. I think we may be back up to the level of Season 2, which was definitely watchable. I don't think it is possible to recreate the magic of Season 1. We have just seen too much of these people before and half the reason Season 1 was so good was not the acting/writing but how fresh and new it was. Still, definitely fun which is a long stride better than the painful drudgery of last year. I am in for now, but the leah is still short.
Posted by JimBilly4 on 09/22/09 at 03:55 PM
The LEASH is still short.
By-the-way, in exactly what University is Linear Algebra the killer class that everyone desperately wants to take? The character (dead now) was a Poly-Sci major if I recall. I suppose it is not out of the question that one might use some sophisticated math or statistics as part of a political science thesis, but I strongly doubt there is a single political science department in the country that requires linear algebra. It will certainly be of no help becoming an attorney or governor. It's for Math and Science people only. Also, it is guaranteed to be taught by that young professer that doesn't really speak English. Guaranteed.
Posted by JimBilly4 on 09/22/09 at 04:03 PM
@rjspring and @JimBilly4
I guess I am missing something...I remember Season 3 as being better than Season 2. Most people bemoaned S2 as really bad. Did I forget maybe?
Posted by MaddieDaddy on 09/22/09 at 04:44 PM
Better than I thought it was going to be.
I actually care about Parkman for once.
Still don't like the Nathan/Sylar, but that was last season and we are moving forward.
Claire's plotline doesn't interest me, but it hasn't since S1.
I do like new Peter, and here's to hoping that Suresh does not return!!
Posted by MisterJ on 09/22/09 at 06:21 PM
@MisterJ Agreed on every point.
Posted by hbkhumanity on 09/22/09 at 06:54 PM
they lost me at the last season
Posted by gh0ul on 09/22/09 at 07:39 PM
LOL! screw the trailer, I just heard about it a few hours ago and it'll be on in 20 minutes. Best part is it's only 6:40 so it's not like I'll be at the movies when this is playing.
Posted by Mangaman on 09/22/09 at 09:39 PM
@ MisterJ
I miss Sureshes voice overs.
Claires plot line is killing me, every second line out of her mouth and every little facial expression makes me cringe. I am from Aus and have to watch this on a computer, every time claire gets screen time I find myself loading firefox. And I shouldn't cause she's young and hot!
Everyone here seems to be hating on season three. I thought it was a lot stronger then the second season. I liked the whole mr Petrelli story line. Dont forget the Sylar and Bennet battles, and Kirsten Bell walking round in a t-shirt and panties for two episodes. All I remember from season 2 is horible Irish accents.
Posted by Blitheh on 09/22/09 at 10:24 PM
It still bothers me that Peter left that girl in a dystopic future that ceased to exist.
Posted by Crucio on 09/22/09 at 11:27 PM
@Crucio: Yeah, they're hoping you forget about that.
Posted by conor on 09/22/09 at 11:32 PM
@Crucio: that was a fucked up episode. Tonight's was ok. I suppose. I cringed at Claire's broken wrist though.
Posted by Mangaman on 09/23/09 at 12:02 AM
@ Crucio & Conor: It's things like that chick being left in the future and then forgotten about that I love and hate about this show. Like this episode and Danko and the key he swallowed. He couldn't of known they were coming for him that day. So you have to assume he had been swallowing that key and passing it every day since he got lol.
Posted by Blitheh on 09/23/09 at 12:16 AM
@Blitheh-Good point about the voice-over. He did have a good voice for that work.
Posted by MisterJ on 09/23/09 at 01:13 AM
My memories of season 2 may be colored by a gradual come down from the splender of Season 1, but last season was really bad. I think they managed to pull it out of the realm of eye-pluckingly horrible with a semi-strong finish or 4-5 episodes, but before that it was a muddled, boring mess. I suspect the difference of opinion could lie in what we are looking for in our TV. The show consistently had fun special effects and lots of people people with powers constantly be thrown against each other. On the other hand they completely lost the characters. Everyone was running around doing things that made no sense for their characters without any explanation or motivating factor. The Petrelli brothers were the worst, randomly hating and loving each other, betraying and fighting for each other at the whim of that week's writer. Sylar on his redemption/corruption yo-yo. Everyone hates Suresh now because of whatever it is they turned him into last season. Combine that with some generally terrible plot "twists" and that is why the show is on the chopping block this year. If they can make me like the characters again (not all of them... I will always be annoyed by Claire) I will put up with a lot of stupid twists and turns.
Posted by JimBilly4 on 09/24/09 at 05:38 PM
@Conor One thing. Does Claire feel pain? I remember Sylar took that piece out of her brain to make her not feel anything. I don't remember her getting feeling back, she just wandered around morose for a couple of episodes.
I could be wrong, or it could be one of those things they hope we forgot about.
Posted by CAM on 09/25/09 at 12:27 PM
*grab left hand*
No TNC.....don't click to N....B....C!
Okay yes I am not doing this, I can't afford to lose more blood like I did last time for the season finale. But I will have fun reading the comments out of context or not.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 09/21/09 at 07:07 PM