Heroes - S03E21 - Into Asylum
152 Posted on Mar 30, 2009 in articles by Conor Kilpatrick |
Volume Four: Fugitives
Tonight's episode - Into Asylum
Sylar's back this week and it looks like he's going up against The Hunter!
Last week's episode rocked so hard I'm still reeling from it. Can the momentum be sustained this week? It's a tall order.
The ratings continue to fall, which is no surprise, but the show has been guaranteed at least another (shortened) season so I guess the people behind the show and its fans can breath easy - for now.
As always, I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.
Comments
I'm gonna try and vlog at the same time...
Last week's episode was the first for me in a couple of months. I was confused, but I was surprised at the quality of it. Maybe one man (Fuller) can save a show?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 08:47 PMjestergoblin reporting in after over a month of absence!
Posted by jestergoblin on 03/30/09 at 08:52 PMWow must be mexico cause that was a sweet El Camino LOL
Posted by robbiethegeek on 03/30/09 at 09:01 PMGeneric Mexican village
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:01 PMI liked the duelling subtitles in different colors. Nice touch.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:02 PMThat is some BIG hair on Nathan.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:02 PMIs it just me or does Nathan's hair get crazier each time. The beard from season 2 will be next.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:02 PMIs it always dark blue/grayish in NYC?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:03 PMLike Josh at 3 in the morning hair.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:03 PMi'm late
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:03 PM
Nice....like me at 2am
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:03 PMYou would think HRB would be gone from this assignment after Nathan was exposed..
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:05 PMSylar > obsessed agent
Posted by robbiethegeek on 03/30/09 at 09:05 PMSylar has gone back from being a wuss to a badass I see...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:05 PMI love the recent radio choices around Sylar...
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:06 PMgreat use of music
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:06 PMi'm loving the music selection of the last few epis
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:06 PMIs this heroes or a shower gel commercial?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:07 PMMan, I really hope Mike Torello shows up!
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:07 PMastral projection = sylar ability
Posted by tlavan on 03/30/09 at 09:07 PMSo, Sylar's Batman, huh?
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:07 PMdoes sylar now have cigarette lighter-kenesis?
Posted by jestergoblin on 03/30/09 at 09:08 PMwet sylar =hot sexy sylar
jus had to be a girl for a sec.
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:08 PMSylar is the new sponser for Herbal Essence...Oh yes....
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:08 PMBig vein on the Hunter's neck..
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:09 PMSorry your speeches are not Adama effective
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:10 PMis it me or does hunter look sicker as each epi progresses?
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:11 PMThis is a fine Crunchwrap supreme!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:11 PMI still have my vote that HRG is more dangerous than the Hunter...good or bad...and almost as dangerous or on level with Sylar.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:12 PMI have the urge for Sylar... I mean herbal!
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:12 PM@boutux I was thinking the same thing
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:12 PMThis can't be Mexico... where are the running gun battles between the cartels and the government...?
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:13 PMYou know what she's praying for?
A son with better acting skills :)
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:13 PM@conor: Also, where are the guys with big hats and mustaches?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:14 PMAh, Petrelli the hustler.
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:15 PMdrunk Nathan's gonna be funny
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:15 PM@TNC Are you watching the same show? All Petrellis are acting just fine. What I'm curious is if the writers are channeling a lil' Peter Parker into this Peter.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:15 PMAnyone stupid enough to enter into a bar bet deserves to lose their money.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:15 PM@psy: Yes I am, gotta agree to disagree on that man
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:15 PMstop hating on milo, sometimes its enough to jus be hot
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:16 PMHa ha! Love you Sylar!
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:16 PMWhat's in the box!?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:16 PMWhats in the box!?
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:16 PMKiller Shapeshifter? Hilarity insues!
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:17 PMThere is ALWAYS a box with a head in it.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:17 PMWas Jack in the Box?...nope just the head.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:17 PM@conor always
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:18 PMHey Seth MacFarlane....weird seeing him do voices
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:18 PMNice Special Effects for the shapeshifter
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:21 PMGuess it's not an easy Mystique kind of transition???
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:21 PMCant shake their stealing from Lost with these church scenes...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:22 PMMopey mamma Petrelli is not my favorite.
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 09:22 PMoh geez not the lost comparisons again.
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:23 PM@TNC: Scenes in a church are the domain of LOST?
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:23 PMAll of these scenes with Mam Petrelli makes me think something bad is going to happen to her..
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:23 PM@TNC the reminiscing in a catholic church scene has been around since the dawn of cinemea, I'm thinking.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:24 PMSomeone's got alcohol poisoning.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:24 PM@conor: Well just recently Lost had an episode where they are in a church....and it's all about forgiving, just like this scene I'm seeing.
Not trying to start a flame war on both shows, just observing
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:24 PM*snicker*
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:24 PMWow, they are showing a minor (at least the character, not actor) drinking alcohol...ballsy
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:25 PMThis looks like her celebrity life with the underage boozing.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:25 PMjust eat his brain Sylar!
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:26 PMHe's gonna have to do a lot of stabbing to kill him
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:26 PMWhy does everyone talk smack to Sylar? Just shoot him. Repeatedly. And often.
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 09:27 PM@zombox even if they did...we've seen him stop bullets. They just should have someone who can out think him, maybe HRG.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:28 PM@zombox: He is often helpful in achieving their dastardly tasks.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:28 PM@zombox - that does appear to be a fatal flaw when dealing with him
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:28 PMI'm sorry but if they are going this route:
The hunter is an idiot. I know it's a tv show but what type of thinking is this? 'Okay I'm gonna let you kill all the people with abilities, take their powers; then try and kill you when there is no conceivable way a normal person like me can stop someone who will turn into a God'....
Again it's TV logic but still....stupid
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:28 PMI'm telling you this moping is becoming too Spider-Man like...
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:30 PMsanctuary!! sanctuary!!
Posted by echeola on 03/30/09 at 09:31 PMI liked that moment of character development for Peter
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:31 PMangry peter=sexy peter. but that was slightly blasphemous if u believe in that catholic stuff.
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:32 PMIf only there could be such a thing as ranch dressing trucks...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:32 PM@psyguy411: Peter has been very contemplative about his life, since the very first episode.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:33 PMmmm ranch dressing
Posted by echeola on 03/30/09 at 09:33 PM
@conor I'm not disagreeing...I've mention a few moments since season 2 that reminds me of Peter Parker. I'm not bad mouthing, either, I liked it.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:34 PMWell, I mean, I'm all for talking smack. But Sylar has killed dozens and dozens of people. Anyon who has the info these people have should know he's easily the most dangerous creature on the planet.
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 09:34 PMCostumes? As in Spider-Man outfits?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:35 PMOkay the men would've died by alcohol poisoning by now....
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:37 PMthis scene is causing college flashbacks for me
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:37 PMThey need to go and to get Nathan to a hospital.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:38 PMWell that was kinda predictable...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:39 PMhuh!?
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:40 PM"But... I can't even get women like that... and I'm me..."
*single tear*
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:40 PM@conor Have you ever tried the "I hunt those with super powers" line?
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:42 PM'Why yes my head is smooth....and it's all for you baby'
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:42 PM@psyguy411: I was speaking as The Hunter. Thus the quote marks.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:42 PM@conor I know...I was replying as Sylar or whoever would of heard him.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:44 PM"Whats he about too?"
Umm I can explain..
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:44 PM'Alright! Goodbye virginity!'
'wait...'
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:44 PMup too ...i meant
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:45 PMsylar finds humor in the hunter's situation. hunter not lucky with the ladies?
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:45 PM'I can do whatever I want damnit!!! I used to be a big politican!!!'-Drunk Nathan
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:45 PM'Up Up and Away!!!'-Drunk Nathan
*crashes into a dumpster*
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:46 PMThat is one of the biggest hotel rooms I have ever seen.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:48 PMdrunk nathan wants to have a pity party
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:48 PMNice, subtle acting on The Hunter.
Trying to pretend to be him when he isnt him
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:49 PMWhoops sorry I guess that was Sylar...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:49 PMwell shit!
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:50 PM"Aw, way to take the fun and blood of it, Hunter"
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:50 PMI missed a good chunk of Heroes, but I saw stuff before this commercial break...
Has the Hunter seen Sylar do his thing before? Since when is he squeamish?
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:50 PM
So far this episode is a step down from last week.
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 09:50 PMI'd ask why he even bargained with Sylar, but I'm sure that's revealed in what I missed, right?
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:51 PM@zombox: Of course it is.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:51 PM@zombox i was jus thinking that. when its good the hr seems to fly by. this one isnt running thru so quickly.
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:52 PM@ReiMehari: Sylar is going to help him find the powers that he can't.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:52 PM@Rei: No reason.....well except that Sylar wants to find and kill the people with powers. So he's helping Hunter out.
But this storyline is so predictable my eyes are going to roll when the double cross/kill is going to happen.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:52 PMSlowly but surely the vest is coming back in style.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:53 PMGood old Heroes writing:
'Yeah I did say I love you....but after a couple of hours I decided I dont care'
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:54 PMIn fact, new drinking game.
How many times Claire gets screwed over in a episode by a father figure
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:55 PMgreat line
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:55 PMMan...people can't seem to be happy. There's too much character dev. going on in one episode or this one has pretty much too straight forward action going down. I'm not saying it doesn't belong. We are here for blog's sake.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:55 PMnatan=weak, pathetic and pitiful
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:55 PMSister? Is she hot...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:56 PMMaybe her sister's name is Leia.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:56 PM@conor And you long for the day when you can have a watch chained to your vest?
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 09:56 PMDoes Nathan really need to wear glasses?
He's in mexico! No one recognizes him...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:57 PM@zombox: I actually do own a pocket watch so I just need the vest!
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:57 PM@cONOR: Thanks.
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:57 PM
loving the music this season
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 09:57 PMBullshit!
Like HRG is gonna believe Sylar is dead that easily...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 09:57 PMAh ha - so that's why The Hunter requested no marks on the body... smart. Of course, HRG is not going to fall for that.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:58 PMThere's no way that tricks Noah. He's shot Sylar, like, a million times and can't kill him.
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 09:58 PMWell... holy crap.
I really should have seen that coming. But then again, I did miss a chunk of the episode.
Thank you, DVR, my savior.
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:58 PMend with a bang. sylar is one smart cookie or maybe the hunter is. hrg will figure it out
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 09:59 PM@TNC I bet, if he does, it's not for long...
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 09:59 PMSylar forgot... orgasmic.
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 09:59 PM@TNC I think hes wearing glasses because hes hung over as ****.
Posted by Scarletspeedster on 03/30/09 at 09:59 PMYou could tell that HRG didn't buy it. It showed in his face when he saw the knife.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 09:59 PM@Scarletspeedster: Hung over and it's super bright in Mexico. Not a good combination.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 10:00 PMWow. Sylar is back to Season One form.
More specifically, the future episode.
He';; take what he wants, and the rest of them can die.
Posted by ReiMehari on 03/30/09 at 10:01 PMi actually missed hiro. that's new
Posted by boutux on 03/30/09 at 10:01 PMI didn't. :)
Posted by zombox on 03/30/09 at 10:02 PMOkay this is my problem with this series, and it's been like this for so long.
This episode in general was pretty good. A little bit off from last week, but better then what I saw 3-4 months ago. But come on....why are you doing this generic, bad guys working together plot line?
Again I know it's TV and it is kinda comic book plotting....so I dont need a lecture on that. Are we seriously going to have to deal with the rest of the season with Sylar and the Hunter working together? We know where this is gonna go: Either one of them kills the other or rats the other one out....It's so stupid, boring, cliche, and makes for a weak plotline.
Also, like I posted above. HRG is not that stupid, but he's probably gonna be written on believing Sylar is dead for a good couple of episodes. Then find evidence to show he isnt dead....If this is the HRG we all know (and love) he would've said: 'Bullshit' (or a friendly word for broadcast) and that would be the end of it. HRG has fought Sylar before and has even worked with the man in the past. There is no way he plays dumb and goes along with this idea that he's dead.
I'm sorry for the rant but other then that bad plotline, this was a pretty good episode. I'm gald it's at least watchable again.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 10:03 PM@TNC: HRG clearly doesn't believe that Sylar is dead.
Posted by conor on 03/30/09 at 10:05 PMTo put my rant in simplier terms: It's like when Brianiac and Lex Luthor teams up to beat Superman. It happens often and we know where this is gonna go before the plot even concludes. That's my problem with Sylar/Hunter team up in a nutshell.
Rant over.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 10:05 PM- sigh- I liked it...after very long days at work, I'm a fan of willful suspension of disbelief.
Posted by piscespaul on 03/30/09 at 10:06 PM@TNC I don't think HRG believed that...and sorry to throw this at you, but storytelling has been around for so long, so what would be new?
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 10:06 PM@psy: You know whats new? A main character getting killed last episode. I didnt see that coming, and it brought tension to the series.
What would've been new? If Hunter just shot at Sylar at the beginning of the episode. Make it a battle of the two like the previews kinda hinted at this week. But I guess that turns into a 'advertising is always false' type of arguement.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 10:07 PM@TNC The ads I saw made me believe it was a villain team-up, but its prob. because I didn't pay too much attention.
Whether you saw coming or not, it's all been done before, by now. If you take me along for a good ride, then I don't see the redundancies being too bad.
Well I dont want to cloud this plotline in this discussion (too late), it just bugged me that's all. If your all for it then I'll have to keep my mouth shut on it and try and enjoy the episodes. Cause again, I thought this was a good episode. It didnt make me drool or anything; it was entertaining/interesting enough to keep me going for another week....I just wish they would've tried something different. Instead I'll probably get to hear this:
'I dont trust you...'-Hunter. 'Your gonna have to trust me'-Sylar. 'You could kill me at any moment....'-Hunter. 'So could you....'-Sylar. (Or at least different varieties of it)
But such is life.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 10:20 PMI'm not saying adjust your opinions...I'm all for hearing both sides. I was just throwing my point of view into the hat.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/30/09 at 10:22 PMWell I'm not gonna adjust my opinions; if this plotline goes where I think it's gonna go I'm gonna post: I called that! all the way.
Here's an idea: How about when Sylar kills the shapeshifter, he also kills the Hunter. But not only that; he shapesshifts into looking like the Hunter and then he works on the inside to find all the people with abilities and take it from them.
There, you can still use both actors and still get a good plot out of that, plus it's different from the norm.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/30/09 at 11:06 PMNot a bad idea, and it seems like from the last post you sort of agree that it's not what you do, but how you pull it off. I'm just content in seeing how they planned it and then I'll know if it's a bust or not. You may be a 100% correct in how it plays out, but if it has style doing it the tried and true way, or there's a bait and switch, then I'll wait to job well done.
Posted by mcbaker on 03/31/09 at 12:56 AMSomeone mentioned it up above but I do think The Hunter is sick also.
Cause he does look pale in every shot, and he just looks sicker as each scene goes by. Plus he is a smoker....maybe he has cancer? Maybe he is hiding an ability and somehow that's messing up his body? That right there could be a slew of interesting developments for a character....If they are doing that.
If not, then that guy needs to see a doctor.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 03/31/09 at 01:03 AMExcellent episode, I really like this new writer they have going. Not sure if it's new or I just haven't noticed it before, but I really like how the music tends to work with what's going on instead of just being background noise.
Posted by deezer on 03/31/09 at 01:39 PMIve notices that the music is coming back in the show in a big, big way. Kudos to Heroes for finally bringing in ashape-shifter. It's about damn time. I thought this was between an average to very good episode. I didn't fell like anything big happened, despite the relationship between Danko and Sylar changing.
I think it was a good character development episode. I like that they've focused on a few characters. Can we just say that Brian Fuller is to praise for this? I'd give him the credit. Can't wait to see Parkman's reaction to his chick dying, and what this means for the future which was predicted. Are the predictions of the future done with?
(Damn, I wish Pushing Daisies was still on)
Posted by VichusSmith on 03/31/09 at 08:58 PM@TNC
Back a couple of episodes ago Sylar met his bio father, Lionel Luthor, I mean John Glover. During the meeting he decided to become a hunter of powered people, and it was suggested that he was not going to steal many more powers because that would take away the challenge. So, he actually has the same goals as the Hunter now.
And there is no way that HRG believes that Sylar is dead. No way he believes that the Hunter is near competent enough to take out Sylar. He is just going to play along until he can reveal to all that the Hunter is allied with their enemy.
Posted by MisterJ on 04/01/09 at 01:10 AMI want Pushing Daisies back.
Posted by SilverAgeTom on 04/02/09 at 09:44 AMI don't remember which season we had the future episode where Sylar and Peter fight and in that Sylar ended up having the ability to shapeshift. Up till now we had never seen him have that ability. So I wonder if this is where that comes in. If of course we are even still on that path to that future.
Anyways...just an observation.



ok, gona live blog today. todays the day...
Posted by Gabe on 03/30/09 at 08:14 PM