Heroes – S04E19 – Brave New World

Volume Five: Redemption

This is it for Heroes for the season (it will be back for another, most likely). For the most part, it's been an okay season. Some stuff to really like and some stuff that was really boring. Againg, my chief compaint has been a lack of cohesion which is something that has been lacking since season one.

So bring on the final battle with Samuel and his Brotherhood of Carny Mutants!

 

 

As always, I look forward to your thougths, opinons, gripes, live-blogging, etc.

Comments

  1. Crippler Crippler says:

    Nobody watching Human Target tonight…?

  2. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    It’s on on Wednesdays in the US.

  3. zombox zombox says:

    Back from Florida! Fantastic time for a finale.

  4. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I never ended up watching that episode where Hiro gets healed. I just pushed on without it. I seem to be okay.

  5. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Ah, Claire must have AT&T.

  6. Devastron Devastron says:

    Ugh, they are wasting a lot of precious time on stuff we saw last week.

  7. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I think Sylar and Peter should have a contest to see whose hair is floppier.

  8. zombox zombox says:

    Hair length directly coordinates to personal guilt?

  9. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Place yer bets: Samuel dies tonight – Yes or No?

  10. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I hope Samuel has a permit for that stage, or NYPD is going to be all over his ass.

  11. zombox zombox says:

    @comor Dead as a doornsil.

  12. Devastron Devastron says:

    @conor I’m going to say yes.

  13. AztecLos AztecLos says:

    So this is the final show of the season? Seems too early.

  14. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @AztecLos: They are doing a shortened season due, in no small part, to the Olympics.

  15. Devastron Devastron says:

    It was a shortened season, the only way it could come back.

  16. zombox zombox says:

    Parkman has gotten fat as hell.

  17. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Matt sure owns a lot of the same kind of knives.

  18. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I bet Parkman is less concerned about Sylar being out and more pissed that he did all of that brick laying FOR NOTHING.

  19. zombox zombox says:

    Told you last week Sylar would eff that multile man up. Seriously, not a legitimate threat.

     

  20. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Damn these subtitles. Not liveblog friendly.

  21. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Aw, cute. Peter and Sylar are talking at the same time like creepy twins.

  22. zombox zombox says:

    I love how the shoot Parkman specifically from certain angles in order to hide how fat he’s gotten.

  23. AztecLos AztecLos says:

    @conor Damn Winter Olymptics.

  24. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @AztecLos: Well, as Devastron said, it was going to be a shorter season anyway, the Winter Olympics just gave them a nice way to end early.

  25. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Claire feels pain, right? So even if she ran out of oxygen and her lungs regenerated she would just stop breahting again and die and her lungs would regenerate and she’d stop breathing again… etc. etc. That sounds like some kind of horrific torture.

  26. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Old Charlie!?

  27. zombox zombox says:

    Nice twist. I dig it.

  28. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Here’s your big test, Hiro. How much do you REALLY love Charlie…??

  29. Devastron Devastron says:

    Well that is certainly convenient, although they have to come up for some reason for Hiro to not bop back 65 years and grab her and bring her back to the present.

    I’m not sure if Claire feels pain or not. I know for awhile she couldn’t, not sure if that came back or not.

  30. AztecLos AztecLos says:

    @conor That happen to Wolverine because od Tiger Shark.

  31. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Those better be some damn powerful loudspeakers to draw a lot of people to Samuel’s tent area. Between the size of the park, the general city noise, and the fact that like 65% of the people in NYC walk around with an iPod (or similar) playing, it’s hard to hear anything!

  32. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Devastron: She’s always grunting and whincing when something happens to her.

  33. zombox zombox says:

    @conor I don’t know what kind of fetishes you have, I don’t need to know.

  34. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I still don’t understand the purpose that Parkman serves on the show anymore.

  35. zombox zombox says:

    Not exactly the poppin’ jams that attract a traditional urban crowd…

  36. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Predictions: How does Samuel die? Does Darth Maul kill him?

  37. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Old Charlie is just as adorable as Young Charlie.

  38. zombox zombox says:

    Sylar takes him down after Toad gets smoked betraying him and interrupting his villainous monologue.

  39. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @zombox: If they are serious about Sylar being (gag) a good guy then does killing Samuel cement his good guy status or harm it?

  40. zombox zombox says:

    She has a ton of energy despite the obviously fading air supply….

  41. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    "Tracy? Great. Three of us are going to suck up the oxygen even faster…"

  42. zombox zombox says:

    Well, we live in the modern age of heroes. Killing is kosher so long as its seen as an ‘extreme situation’, unlike 20 years ago. That part of the age of ‘gritty heroes’ stuck around.

  43. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    30 feet of dirt… couldn’t Tracy blast through that with her water powers? I’m not a geologist.

  44. Devastron Devastron says:

    I think Sylar offing him would be a nice way of keeping him a bit ambigious on the whole good/bad thing.

  45. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @zombox @Devastron:It will definitely depend on how the killing goes down.

  46. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    And that’s exactly what Tracy did.

  47. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    HRG’s Angels.

  48. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Poor Hiro. His determination to save Charlie is heartbreaking.

  49. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Wow, that was a FAST helicopter trip. They must have been picked up by Airwolf.

  50. zombox zombox says:

    I love how Hiro’s story is entirely unconnected to the main plot line this season. What is the point of having him on the show?

  51. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @zombox: I guess he’s on his way now.

  52. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I think it’s probably time for Puppet Man to die.

  53. zombox zombox says:

    BULLSHIT! Just 4 episodes ago Sylar was immune to the puppeteer’s powers. Seriously, guys. Fucking seriously.

  54. JesTr JesTr says:

    Say what you guys will but Doyle freaks me out more than Sylar.

  55. zombox zombox says:

    Those are the uglist bracelets in the universe.

  56. Devastron Devastron says:

    Sylar will probably blow through Doyle like he always has. Sylar’s powers aren’t dependent on him moving, he just does that for dramatic effect.

  57. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I think it would be great that instead of killing everyone, Samuel and his people just put on a killer show. Everyone applauds, Samuel and his people take their bows, end credits.

  58. Devastron Devastron says:

    @conor Thanks to her powers of drawing in people, we made a killing on concessions!

  59. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Devastron: IT’s all abig scam to sell watered down soda and get tons of rubes to play ringtoss!

  60. CaseyJustice CaseyJustice says:

    Wow, what a satisfying way to get out of Hiro getting a boring happy ending. Way to wrap shit up for once, Heroes!

  61. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    That was really nice, the way that ended for Hiro and Charlie.

  62. zombox zombox says:

    You guys remember when Bruce Willis made good movies?

  63. JesTr JesTr says:

    So they don’t always have to leave a love interest lost in time.

  64. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @zombox: I think COP OUT looks really funny.

  65. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @JesTr: Hiro should have sent Charlie off into time somewhere and then cut to Charlie and Peter’s Irish Girlfriend hanging out in some purgatory.

  66. Devastron Devastron says:

    I could see this ending with Sylar as an anti-hero who goes around killing bad people with powers and taking those powers as a bonus.

  67. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Devastron: Like a Super Powered Dexter?

  68. zombox zombox says:

    MMm. Super powered Dexter! Just watched the last episode of season 3 earlier tonight.

  69. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    WHO WILL STOP SAMUEL?!?

  70. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I like how profecient Peter is with his new powers.

  71. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I think that HEROES stole all of SMALLVILLE’s extras.

  72. zombox zombox says:

    Now, what doesn’t make sense… Samuel has shown that he is able to use his powers, though be it at a dimished level, in previous levels. Now he’s utterly powerless?

  73. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Wouldn’t Peter’s power give Samuel something to work with?

  74. zombox zombox says:

    previous episodes, even.

  75. zombox zombox says:

    I think that is the first time I’ve ever noticed how tiny Hayden Panatierre is… she’s probably, like, 5′ tall.

  76. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Uh oh

  77. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Are we to believe that this carnival hasn’t been flooded with cops?

  78. zombox zombox says:

    Well, yea. Maybe I shouldn’t, but I do feel like that sets up a good storyline for next year.

  79. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I think that next season they should jump forward a year where all the powers are reality TV stars.

  80. zombox zombox says:

    Everyone knows NYC cops are fat and slow and can’t find Central Park with a map!

  81. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @zombox: There are certainly interesting possibilities.

  82. Devastron Devastron says:

    They were all too busy trying to control the mob of panicky people running around somewhere.

  83. Devastron Devastron says:

    Well, it looks like every prediction I made was a big miss, but I like being surprised.

  84. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Devastron: There’s 35,000+ cops in NYC!

  85. Devastron Devastron says:

    @conor Whats her face probably used her Fed connections to keep things a bit quiet, I guess.

  86. CaseyJustice CaseyJustice says:

    Well, that was less climactic than usual.

    Y’know, this might be it for me. Every season we start with a compelling story idea, every season we get lost in random character arcs that make no sense and have nothing to do with the overall plot, and every season we end with a whimper. It’s more consistant than taxes.

    Yeah, I think I’ll just keep up with this on wiki from now on. The Big Bang Theory is worth my time more.

  87. Oooh. interesting last five minutes.

    Now that they’re exposed to the world  there could be an X-Men type mutant racism thing next season.

  88. comixfan comixfan says:

    This was a great episode. Liked it alot. That’s it.

  89. Trike Trike says:

    This show is still on?

  90. IroncladMerc says:

    To Be continued?  is what they should have displayed with the question mark, because has NBC really renewed this show for another season? They should have ended it this season.

  91. misterckent misterckent says:

    I think I heard that the story can be followed on NBC.com.  I’m not sure what plot points and with what characters, but I wonder if they’ll gauge the likelihood of another season by the interest generated on the site.

  92. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @misterckent: Doubtful. Networks don’t put much stock in their original online content.

  93. Superyan Superyan says:

    Anyone recognize who played "old Charlie"?

    you guessed it.. Frank Stallone! :D

     No actually it was Ma Kent from Lois & Clark!

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