Heroes – S03E15 – Trust and Blood


Volume Four: Fugitives

Tonight’s episode – Trust and Blood

Last week’s episode kicked major ass, here’s hoping that continues this week.  It’s clear that they are trying to return to the feel and dynamics of season one and I couldn’t be happier.

It has been fantastic to see the Heroes actually teaming up and doing things together towards a common purpose, rather than scattered off in their own disparate storylines.

So how did the show do last week with viewers?  It had its best numbers in eight episodes with approximately 8.45 million viewers.  That’s still way down from its hayday, and who knows if that’s enough to make the advertisers happy, but it’s three episodes in a row of increasing numbers.

As always, I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.

Comments

  1. Crippler Crippler says:

    Well, I already watched the episode on Nfld. time.  Ugh.  It was ok, but, I dont’ think I have ever seen a show that spent more time moving it’s people in circles. 

    We’ve escaped!
    No! Let’s go back!
    Now lets escape again!
    Now that we’ve escaped what should we do?  Go back and fight them!  yay! 

    Just very frustrating.. and as usual for Heroes.. follow up a good show with a mediocre show and you’ve killed all the momentum.  Boourns.     I’ll check back in later to see if anyone else is thinking the same way. 

  2. Crippler Crippler says:

    Oh, and Conor?  Apparently Sylar DOES play around.  Too much.  With action figures?

  3. twooldridge twooldridge says:

    can’t wait, 20mins

  4. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Maybe. Hopefully.

  5. smeeeeee smeeeeee says:

    YES 24 is coming on soon!

  6. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Nope, it’s gonna be late.

  7. twooldridge twooldridge says:

    What the hell is this!

     

  8. rayclark rayclark says:

    FINALLY!!

  9. twooldridge twooldridge says:

    ok we’re good

  10. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Only two minutes late, not too bad.

  11. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Well, the crumbling economy is just slightly more important than any TV show, so…

    It’s okay.

  12. rayclark rayclark says:

    phew i hate nathan

  13. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Has HEROES done this over-lapping thing before, where they show the final bit again in the beginning of the next episode, or was that another show I watch?  Either way it’s a pretty good tool.

  14. Crippler Crippler says:

    I’ve decided that I shall now hate Claire until such time as she either a) learns how to fight effectively b) gets and starts to use a weapon or c) a hopeful combination of the two.  I mean, how much would Wolverine suck if he had no claws? 

  15. rayclark rayclark says:

    lord of the rings moment??

  16. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Haha – It’s Dr. Hiro Kimble!

  17. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    I’m going to paint in the middle of a crisis!

  18. boutux boutux says:

    i hate nathan too. what a sell out. daddy patrelli should have stole his power

  19. rayclark rayclark says:

    he has to save claire. dont shoot her boyfriend

  20. hakaider hakaider says:

    "Dad, why are you still EXACTLY the same character that you’ve always been?!?"

  21. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Hmmm.. my station just snapped out of HD.

  22. rayclark rayclark says:

    whoa what was that?? i dont iunderstand her dad

  23. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Good opening.  Strong start.

  24. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @rayclark; It looks like HRG is cleansing the crash scene so no one will know who/what was on the airplane.

  25. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; yea i can see it now. but who’s side is he on??

  26. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @rayclark: The same side he’s always been on – humanity’s.

  27. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    I think it’s the point…HRG is supposed to always have this air of mystery and bad ass-ness about him.

  28. hakaider hakaider says:

    @ conor: …/his daughter’s

  29. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; but who does that mean?? his own side?? im sorry im just confused and im not acting like an ass conor just wanted you to know that.

  30. hakaider hakaider says:

    mmmm…the t-word.

  31. rayclark rayclark says:

    the hunt is on

  32. Crippler Crippler says:

    It’s so lame though!  Like, grow a pair would ya Claire!  Don’t just STAND THERE.  … and shouldn’t all 3 of those people have known that HRG could have shot Peter all he wanted?  He was just touching Claire!  They all know how this works by this point in time!   Grrr…. 

  33. rayclark rayclark says:

    cain and able??

  34. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @rayclark: He has always been about protecting the non-powered from the powered.  Always.  He protects humanity from those who would threaten them (i.e. those with powers).

  35. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; ok thanks lol. i knew i liked him for a reason. and i LOVE parkmans future powers

  36. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Crippler: I disagree.  That’s her dad who she loves very much.  What is she supposed to do, hit him?  She would be majorly conflicted about that, at the very least.

  37. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    Told you…it’s time to get your paint on.

  38. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    Haha, Ando being a cocky bastard?

  39. hakaider hakaider says:

    wasn’t Daphne’s hair supposed to normalize at some point in the future?

  40. rayclark rayclark says:

    haha hiro blabbed about the hideoout cuz he was proud of it lol

  41. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    And now Mohinder is dressed like Freddy Kreuger.

  42. hakaider hakaider says:

    oh Mohinder…somehow you manage to seem like such an ass when you’re just trying to be nice…what skill!

  43. twooldridge twooldridge says:

    i hear mat is working on the new boom studios book

     

  44. rayclark rayclark says:

    haha mohinder the serial killer??

  45. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Hey! HD is back!

  46. hakaider hakaider says:

    PARK-MAN!

  47. hakaider hakaider says:

    new characters? DANGER!

  48. rayclark rayclark says:

    a new hero??

  49. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    @conor- you beat me to the punch on that comment, haha. He likes monters movie-archetypes

  50. rayclark rayclark says:

    SYLAR!!

  51. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    It’s always a good sign when you see "Written by Mark Verheiden"

  52. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Damn.

  53. Crippler Crippler says:

    @Conor – Well, she’s standing there yelling that she hates him and that he’ll never get away with it…   On top of that, HRG should know that if Peter was touching Claire, he can’t take him down with a gun.  As an agent, HRG of all people should know what the powers of the other ‘heroes’ are. 

     

  54. hakaider hakaider says:

    well that pause was entirely uncalled for

  55. rayclark rayclark says:

    ahhh sylar pwn those ppl its not like the guards gonna tell you anything

  56. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    @conor – agreed, especially with BSG heating back up, it gets me more excited that he’s writing!

  57. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Crippler: I don’t see how HRG would know about Peter’s new powers when even Nathan didn’t know what they were. And the relationship between a father and a teenage daughter is complex.

  58. rayclark rayclark says:

    wow ando kills hiro…that really sucks

  59. rayclark rayclark says:

    what if ando amplifies peters power??

  60. hakaider hakaider says:

    I’m calling it right now that Ando blasting Hiro doesn’t kill him, it gives him his powers back.

  61. boutux boutux says:

    i love sylar

     

  62. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @hakaider: Yeah, that’s a good bet.

  63. rayclark rayclark says:

    YES DAPHNE!!

  64. rayclark rayclark says:

    whos the hunter??

  65. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Bringing a speedster on to this show was a great idea.  Is she about to die, though?

  66. rayclark rayclark says:

    NO DAPHNE!!

  67. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Whoa.

  68. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    Parkman did a badass thing!

  69. Crippler Crippler says:

    @ Conor – He’s always known what Peter’s powers were.  At least since the Homecoming episode of season 1.  They haven’t really changed.   

    Anyway, that’s nitpicking in the extreme except that as you’ll see in an upcoming scene, they’re quite able to identify other people’s powers.  "X must have done X."  Unless they know what everyone’s powers are, there’s no way to make that statement. 

  70. rayclark rayclark says:

    parkman was badass but come on i loved having a speedster!!

  71. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! That was fucked up, Sylar.

  72. hakaider hakaider says:

    that Ivanek guy. he held up the clinic on House and was on Damages.

    oh Sylar, enjoying a lovely morning cuppa joe. Brilliant.

  73. rayclark rayclark says:

    that was fucked up syler lol but so awesome!!

  74. Crippler Crippler says:

    Zip it!

  75. rayclark rayclark says:

    sylar…SO aweosme!!

  76. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @Crippler: Except that Peter’s powers have changed… again.  Why else would Nathan ask him what his powers were last week?  They established that ambiguity intentionally.  Everyone else’s powers have remained constant.  We’re only talking about Peter here.

  77. rayclark rayclark says:

    WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!11

  78. rayclark rayclark says:

    sylars protege??

  79. hakaider hakaider says:

    why does Sylar keep picking up proteges? doesn’t he understand that that annoys us?

  80. boutux boutux says:

    wrong place to get ur power kid. not with sylar in the room

  81. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @hakaider: Why is it annoying?

  82. rayclark rayclark says:

    agreed its NOT annoying

  83. rayclark rayclark says:

    that hunter guy is very badass

  84. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I can’t help but wonder what this show would be like if Greg Evigan played HRG and Paul Reiser was Nathan.

    More awesome, I think.

  85. rayclark rayclark says:

    who thinks daphne will come back?? i really hope she does i liked the idea of a speedster

  86. boutux boutux says:

    hrg always working both sides

     

  87. rayclark rayclark says:

    hrg being aweosme. i like the intensity of this half

  88. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    @conor-I vote Paul Reiser for Nathan…you blew my mind!

  89. rayclark rayclark says:

    whoa…the soldier guy is a real ahole

  90. Crippler Crippler says:

    I love how the airstrike took out any randos who might have been added to the plot. 

  91. boutux boutux says:

    i hope she comes back. i liked that parkman had somebody. i liked her kick ass attitude. dont kill off the speedster

  92. rayclark rayclark says:

    no you cant trust him tracy

  93. rayclark rayclark says:

    sylar training his protege!!

  94. Crippler Crippler says:

    …. and as noted earlier…    Sylar DOES play around!  With action figures! 

  95. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Man, it’s just not a good time to be Batman.

  96. rayclark rayclark says:

    ooo hes dark and scary like sylar….

  97. rayclark rayclark says:

    i like sylars lying power its so sweet

  98. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Haha, Sylar is playing this kid like a disaffected expert.

  99. rayclark rayclark says:

    soldier is goign to pwn someone….who….uh uh protege PWNED him

  100. rayclark rayclark says:

    MELTED HIS HEAD!!! SYLAR IS AWESOME!!!

  101. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Um… that was melty/bloody.

  102. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    This is how I’d imagine Vader, at his worst, training an apprentice!

  103. boutux boutux says:

    dude. that was awesome

  104. hakaider hakaider says:

    oh…mom’s gonna fry.

  105. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Man, it’s gonna be so weird to see Sylar as Spock.  So weird.

  106. rayclark rayclark says:

    that was so awesome. sylar totally has an apprentice

  107. Crippler Crippler says:

    Paul Reiser as Nathan.  Yes.  Of course, you mean Paul Reiser circa Aliens, not Mad About You. 

  108. twooldridge twooldridge says:

    SSSSIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEE KKKKIIIIICCCCCKKKK

     

  109. rayclark rayclark says:

    si freakin awesome i cant get over it!!

  110. boutux boutux says:

    even worse paul reiser my two dads

  111. rayclark rayclark says:

    haha sylar just goes no "i let you live its a big deal for me"

  112. rayclark rayclark says:

    is that his brother or something?? little bro??

  113. twooldridge twooldridge says:

    sylars boywonder

     

  114. rayclark rayclark says:

    awesome walk-off scene btw

  115. Devastron Devastron says:

    I’m thinking Sylar and his side kick are brothers, or half brothers.

  116. rayclark rayclark says:

    @Devastron; agreed

  117. rayclark rayclark says:

    uh yea nathan is a devil

  118. rayclark rayclark says:

    peter is not crazy hes just aweosme…HOLY CRAP

  119. rayclark rayclark says:

    YES PETER!! FLY AWAY!!

  120. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @rayclark: I don’t think he is at all.  He’s just misguided.  But he’s not doing what he’s doing out of malice.  He’s like HRG.  He just wants to protect people.  His methods might not be the best, however…

  121. rayclark rayclark says:

    ugh nathan you dick

  122. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; i understand he wants peter to be safe. but hes just doing it the wrong way if you ask me. he want to help but hes not doing it right at all if you ask me. hes the nemisis

  123. boutux boutux says:

    the hour flew by so quickly. damn

  124. rayclark rayclark says:

    @boutux; agreed it went by like a flash

  125. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    @rayclark: Sure, but that’s a far cry from the devil or from evil.

  126. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; i concede defeat sir. i see your point and i agree. whos nathan talking to i wonder…

  127. Crippler Crippler says:

    If we’re all going to agree on anything on this thread it’s going to have to be that Reiser’s dickish schmo routine was strongest in Aliens.  Come on, he made Ripley go back into space!  She had to leave her cat behind! 

  128. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    It’s awesome seeing everyone together.

  129. rayclark rayclark says:

    i deff like how they are all friends again.

  130. boutux boutux says:

    i can dig angry vengeful parkman

  131. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; at the same time lol

  132. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    I must amend one of my earlier statements – Parkman’s powers have… not changed, but altered.

  133. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    The buddy system is awesome!

  134. rayclark rayclark says:

    sylar and bro road trip!! whos bringing snacks??

  135. hakaider hakaider says:

    They need a cool name… The League of Fugitive Heroes? Parkman Rangers?

     

  136. rayclark rayclark says:

    @conor; agreed man i like his powers though. didnt expect mom back though. does this mean mr muggles is back

  137. zombox zombox says:

    In a world that hates and fears them…

     

    Oh, god please. Say that Daphne is dead for good. Sylar Jr., snore – he’s going to get et on.

  138. rayclark rayclark says:

    lol legion of fugitive heroes

  139. boutux boutux says:

    i foresee clair and sylar’s protege hooking up? anyone agrees?

  140. rayclark rayclark says:

    ugh MOM come on…

  141. rayclark rayclark says:

    @boutox; im down with that

  142. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Yay! Mama Petrelli!

  143. rayclark rayclark says:

    whoa thats intense

  144. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    wow! there are a lot of haters…I like Mama Petrelli and love Daphne!

  145. rayclark rayclark says:

    what an ep

    next weeks looks SO awesome!! sylar carrying his lil bro

  146. boutux boutux says:

    i hour is not enough.

  147. Conor Kilpatrick conor says:

    Another great episode!  Strong HEROES, strong.

  148. boutux boutux says:

    got work tomorrow. goodnight boys

  149. rayclark rayclark says:

    @boutux; agreed!! we need more

  150. mcbaker mcbaker says:

    I love the character moments this episode had! I hope it continues…

  151. rayclark rayclark says:

    @psyguy411; agreed finally we get good character moments.

    @boutux; goodnight that was SO much fun lvoe doing this

  152. hakaider hakaider says:

    I’m definitely making this live-blogging thing a regular fixture of my week.

  153. cman12 cman12 says:

    That last scene was awesome. I think what she said about Nathan hit the nail right on the head.

  154. Phoenixtorn Phoenixtorn says:

    someone just kill tracy/nikki/ ali larter…

  155. JoeFX JoeFX says:

    Can anyone post what happened at the end?  My DVR picked up some of the President so I lost about 5 mins of the show.  The last thing I saw was Mrs. Petrelli hanging up and Nathan being told "they’re ready for you."  Thanks!

  156. Tork Tork says:

    @JoeFX– Nathan talked to Tracy who was in shackles over what Nathan was doing.  He says he’s doing it to protect the non-powers but Tracy this is all about his ambition.  She tries to get amnesty but Nathan says it’s too late for that as someone puts a black bag over her head.

    I like that this episode shows Nathan isn’t just going to be a cartoon bad guy nor that Peter or Matt will be cartoon good guys. You can see Nathan and Noah are trying everything to not get anyone killed while Peter waving a gun around talking about doing anything necessary to fight back.  You can see both Petrellis are starting to crack which I find the most interesting thing in all this.

  157. hbkhumanity hbkhumanity says:

    Good episode, Claires new power should be the ability to get captured and released multiple times in a small amount of time.

  158. OddsBodkins OddsBodkins says:

    Great first epiosde and then we get the usual Heroes, more plot holes than characters garbage.  Now, we basically have a dumbed down, cops versus fugitives plot. 

    I really wish I could quit this show.  Someone give me something to do every Monday from 8-9p.

     

  159. chrispcade chrispcade says:

    This seemed like stretching. The only thing I really liked was Parkman killing the soldiers. The kid was irritating, Silar should have killed him and they got to drag out the plot to find his father longer too.

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