Heroes – S01E10

Chapter Ten – Six Months Ago

Tonight we follow Hiro back in time as he makes his, apparently unsuccessful, attempt to save the cute waitress (AKA Google The Waitress – nice one, Jimski) from Syler.
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  1. import says:

    I am so excited to find out about Hiro and Charlie(aka google the waitress:P). Easily my two favorite characters but for two totally different reasons. Hiro is of course the heart of the show and everyone loves him because his powers are great and he is just so likeable. Charlie on the other hand plays into my redhead obsession :D
    Will Hiro show up at the school in time to save Peter? Will he save Charlie?.. I guess I’ll know in a couple hours… One think he won’t save Charlie from is her taking a role in hands down gotta be the worst looking movie since Date Movie or White Chicks. Any movie that has the tag line ” From 2 of the 5 writers of Scary Movie comes…” is going to be a real fucking stinker. I went and saw Tenacious D The Pick of Destiny (2 times :D ) and lo and behold who is in the preview for the insepid “Epic Movie” but the adorable Charlie from Heroes. I was stoked to see her but equally bummed to see she was going to be in such a career ender. Oh well , maybe Hiro will go back in time and stop the movie from being made next week!

  2. import says:

    Hiro is of course the heart of the show and everyone loves him because his powers are great and he is just so likeable.

    I think that people really like Hiro because he’s the only one on the show who seems to really, really love the fact that he has powers. He is enjoying being a superhiro.

  3. import says:

    I would have to agree. He is the fanboy of the show so we all have to love one of our own.
    By the way , thanks for giving me a place to talk about my only TV obsession. Half of my friends don’t even watch Heroes and the ones who do don’t read comics so it is refreshing and fun to hear what other fanboys think… even if I don’t always agree with everyone here. :D

  4. import says:

    So, what do you all think of Claire’s (Cheerleader) father? Evil villian or over-protective father? Discuss.

  5. import says:

    I would have to say a little of both. He obviously has his own agenda and as much as he clearly loves and wants control of Claire, he didn’t gather Eden(Jedi Girl) and the Haitain(Hollow Man) for the sole purpose of helping Claire. HRG(Claire’s dad) will continue to evolve as a character and I doubt we will have the payload on him and his motives for quite a while.

  6. import says:

    Tolly, I agree – he’s a little of both. But it is interesting to watch his evolution on the show. In the beginning, he was portrayed mostly as a malevolent character. The last couple of shows have given more dimension and complexity to his persona. I think he is one of the more interesting characters on the show.

  7. import says:

    I know people are friendlier in other parts of the country, but I don’t think a waitress would invite a weirdo japanese guy to her birthday pic moment so quickly or easily…

  8. import says:

    It’s the vulcan-like actor from 24!

  9. import says:

    These are not the droids you are looking for.

  10. import says:

    I know people are friendlier in other parts of the country, but I don’t think a waitress would invite a weirdo japanese guy to her birthday pic moment so quickly or easily…

    But Hiro is so cute and non-threatening!

  11. import says:

    Can you please take your name tag off when your in your AA meeting?

    am I being too snarky?

  12. import says:

    Judging from that Manhattan apartment, Peter is the richest nurse in the history of nursing.

    Everyone else in his program must HATE him.

  13. import says:

    yeah but they probably don’t hate him as much once they heard the AWFUL music he played at his party…

  14. import says:

    I love this casting for Syler. I can’t wait to see how he goes from nerdy watchmaker to super serial killer in six months.

  15. import says:

    Aah – talking to yourself! That’s got to be bad for the space-time continuum.

    “Great scott!”

    Awesome.

  16. import says:

    Hasn’t Hiro seen Back to the Future?

  17. import says:

    A sister! Is it her twin, perhaps?

    That makes sense, power-wise.

  18. import says:

    Holy shit!

    (You’d think that Nathan would be feeling more guilty in the present)

  19. import says:

    I have to admit, I’m starting to get really tired of the same conversation between Nathan and Jess from Gilmore Girls (I don’t even know his character’s name). It’s the same thing everytime. Jess says something, Nathan gets dismissive and they look meaningfully at each other…it’s like every episode..please Nathan just accept that your power is that you can fly via bad special effects.

  20. import says:

    Bad??

    The flying special effects (since the pilot) have been AWESOME.

  21. import says:

    That origami trick will get you laid every time.

  22. import says:

    There’s a bit of Anakin Skywalker in Syler.

  23. import says:

    So if Hiro has – suddenly – gotten so precise with his powers why doesn’t he just and stop Syler and then get back to the proper time?

    You have to give Nikki’s father credit – at least he recognized his temper or whatever was about to poison another kid and left. Lots don’t leave.

  24. import says:

    Ok that was weird
    the check stuffing in his mouth? weird.

    They’re playing with some dangerous toys with the time traveling stuff..it can get confusing quickly.

  25. import says:

    This is the first time I’ve found Nikki to be interesting.

    Oh, how I love flashback episodes.

  26. import says:

    Um… that’s a NYC bear? That looks like a tomato on his shirt.

  27. import says:

    I find it interesting that Hiro looks like his brain is about to explode everytime he uses his power, yet Google has the brain clot.

    Either way, fate is a cruel mistress where Hiro is concerned.

    (The blood clot is a bit much)

  28. import says:

    OMINOUS MUSIC AS WE FIND THE ORIGIN OF SYLAR

  29. import says:

    Okay, so it’s Sylar with an “a” not an “e”.

  30. import says:

    Whoa! Sylar collects the superpowers of those he kills?!?!?!

    Fantastic.

  31. import says:

    Damn. It sucks to be Hiro.

    Suuuuuucks.

  32. import says:

    Hands down my favorite episode so far… WOW!

  33. import says:

    Who dies?

    Does she have to be in the cheerleader outfit ALL the time? ;)

  34. import says:

    No! Just one more till next year?!!?!?!

  35. import says:

    I think I agree with Tolly. That was great.

    As for next week – looks like Peter might be close to entering quasi-legal territory with the cheerleader…

  36. import says:

    No! Just one more till next year?!!?!?!

    A lot of the shows are doing that this season. They are finally catching on to the fact that viewers HATE one new episode and then a rerun and then one new episode and then two reruns, and so on and so forth. Especially on a serialized show. That’s why Lost and Heroes and Jericho are taking a month or so off in the middle.

  37. import says:

    Just like you guys were talking about the last XFactor issue where it was a character study issue(mainly taking the time to show the depth and motivations behind the actions we see), they chose to take some time out to help us understand some of the more subtle hints thrown around through the other episodes. I love this tactic in story telling and this episode really tied up alot of little questions I had. And I am glad to have some Hiro closure(poor Hiro.. poor Charlie). I am still interested to see what happens week to week and at the same time I feel like the season is wrapping up in a clean but organic way. This is like a really good comic run… This would make a perfect first trade in comicspeak. :D Can’t wait for volume 2 to come out ..haha

  38. import says:

    So, Nikki’s dad gives the kid the computer, and he says to him, “Go on, kid. Go break the internet in half.” Bendis fans, please enjoy this complimentary Secret Shout-Out.

    Even as we speak, average viewers who have less exposure to comics and sci-fi– possibly your parents– are in their living rooms wrestling with their first time paradox questions, tentatively looking at one another and asking, “But… if the Japanese feller and the waitress were in love, and then he up and disappeared, and then months later him and his friend showed up at the diner, wouldn’t she recognize him? Wouldn’t their whole meeting go different now? Hrrmm… I’m scared. Back to ‘Dancing with the Stars’ for me.”

    Maybe Hiro’s time travel created a butterfly effect that caused her not to have his table that second time.

  39. import says:

    Does she have to be in the cheerleader outfit ALL the time? ;)

    Why don’t you ask Harry Knowles? HA!

    Let’s be rational for a second….

    If you bought a kid a $2K laptop and found him 3 MINUTES LATER taking it apart, wouldn’t you be just as pissed as Gramps? Not only that, the parents were defending the kid. I just don’t get it.

  40. import says:

    Do cheerleader outfits typically show that much boob? In Texas?

    Also, Dr. Manhattan’s father was a watchmaker, and it was Jon’s main fixation in Watchmen. I’m just saying….

  41. import says:

    That’s what that annoying kid does – he takes apart things and figures out how they work. So it’s no surprise his parents defended him.

  42. import says:

    Hmmm… I’m not sure if this has been discussed before, and it has nothing to do with this episode but…

    Do you think the Radiation Guy, or Sylar having just absorbed Radiation Guy’s powers could be what causes the big nuclear explosion that is set to go off in New York?

  43. import says:

    Holy SHIT. That was insane.

    I don’t know what it is, but no matter what media it is (Avengers, JLA, etc. etc.), whenever I see all the Heroes coming together into one spot to witness their opposition, I get chills.

  44. import says:

    When Nathan P. Discovers his powers of fright and flight; i love it. I also love the “Scissor Sisters” at Peter’s Party. Ron whats up, you don’t enjoy the beat?

  45. import says:

    after four episodes, save the cheerleader save the world finally makes sense!

  46. import says:

    It… does?

  47. import says:

    It… does?

    Yes, it does. Here’s why:

    Sylar absorbs the powers of the people he kills. He had no powers until killing the tk guy then all of the sudden he has tk. Sylar is killing all the people on this list for their power. Claire, the underage object of Harry Knowles desire, is invulnerable. If he kills her he then becomes invulnerable. EG He can’t be stopped and therefore the world cannot be saved.

    Stretch? Maybe but I’m sticking with it for now.

    Honestly didn’t love this episode. Normally this would definitely be my type of episode. I love backstory and I’m one of those people who laments too much action in comic books because I like backstory and motivation. I just wanted this to be more though. I feel like this was a stretch/filler episode because they didn’t know how many episodes they’d get to tell the story. I’m ready for Avengers Assemble enough with the build up.

  48. import says:

    I loved this episode, though I have to agree with Fred in that I’d like to see the actual assembly or the characters soon.

    Fred, I like your explanation of the whole save the cheerleader thing too, sounds plausible to me.

  49. import says:

    thanks. I think it’s like Sylar is Rogue and Peter is Leech. This is a show that clearly lends itself to comic-based thinking.

    It looks like next week could be the Avengers Assemble moment but then again I’m the guy who insisted each week in season 1 of prison break that this would be the week they get out so that may say something about my credibility for what it’s worth.

  50. import says:

    I thought the set-up for Peter and Sylar as arch-enemies was a good one. They basically have the same kind of power, but Peter’s is a about sharing and Sylar’s is about taking. Sylar needs them to die, Peter needs them to live. It’s an interesting use of their super powers as a broader metaphor, which I hadn’t seen done on this show, yet. So here’s the question? Can Peter take on more than one power? If so, then when they all team up, Peter will be extremely powereful.

  51. import says:

    If so, then when they all team up, Peter will be extremely powereful

    I hadn’t thought of that. That’s cool.

    If so, the question becomes(I think), can he handle that? Does he take only their power or does he get power and residual essence too? Meaning, would his mind explode(probably not literally) to drain 8-10 at the same time

  52. import says:

    I was about ready to drop this show until last night.

    Does Peter have to come in contact with the others to gain their power? In the last episode in the locker room, I would have loved to see him tear up Syler using his own abilities.

    Do you think we’re going to get a list of all the people Syler has killed/absorbed?

  53. import says:

    You know… if you think about it, they didn’t save the cheerleader. They saved a cheerleader. A cheerleader totally got ripped open, too. In season three, when they run out of story ideas, it can turn out that they saved the wrong one.

  54. import says:

    We own the digg thread on this!

    http://www.digg.com/television/Heroes_Recap_Six_Months_Ago

    I’m so petty.

  55. import says:

    You know… if you think about it, they didn’t save the cheerleader. They saved a cheerleader. A cheerleader totally got ripped open, too. In season three, when they run out of story ideas, it can turn out that they saved the wrong one.

    So in season three they can just go from high school to high school all across the country and save all the cheerleaders. Season four could be college. And then season five they’d hit the pro teams.

  56. import says:

    Last night’s show was fantastic. It was a great way to get into the background of the characters and incorporate Hiro’s traveling back in time.

    I was wondering how Peter’s power works too. And Sylar would appear to keep his abilities because he was able to move things in the diner with his mind several episodes ago.

    I actually first thought that Nikki’s killer side was going to be her husband trapped in her body, but it’s her twin sis. So, is the sister the one with powers and she’s just stuck in Nikki? I think there’s a lot of cool angles that they can take with it.

    I have a feeling about who’s going to die next episode, but I hope that I’m wrong.

  57. import says:

    So in season three they can just go from high school to high school all across the country and save all the cheerleaders

    Harry Knowles says: stock up on kleenex now

  58. import says:

    I watched last weeks rerun on SciFi at 7est then fell asleep as last nights episode started…. bummer.

  59. import says:

    I think Sylar had a power to start with. And still does. He can see how things work and how to fix things, which is how he absorbs powers. To throw out an Inhumans reference, kind of a reverse-Karnak. He just never noticed the power before because of what he does for a living.

    He almost instantly knows what’s wrong with Chandra’s watch. And right before he kills the TK guy he says something like “you’re broken”.

    So in the end, maybe the guy who wanted a power so desperately that he turned bad had a power all along. That would be a kick in the balls.

  60. import says:

    Another great episode this week. I didn’t know if i’d like the a flashback episode or not, i find they tend to be the weakest part of Lost, but i thought this worked really well. It was cool to see Sylar’s origin, cant wait to see more of him next week.

    And the preview for next week looks really cool, it looks like the Heroes are on an abandoned New York street running from something/someone, Maybe Sylar?, or the nuclear blast?.

  61. import says:

    Honestly , thinking about the preview of the upcoming episode I am staring to think this last one would have been a perfect close of the season. I have a really bad feeling we are heading towards a big cliffhanger season finale and I hate those. Can anyone say “End with a bang” ? (Mushroom cloud).. groan

  62. import says:

    I have a really bad feeling we are heading towards a big cliffhanger season finale and I hate those.

    You must hate all network TV, then.

  63. import says:

    Yea, I’m pretty sure I have stated somewhere on here that Heroes is about the only TV show I watch. I do like Entourage on HBO as well and the Wire, and they both do that too. I guess it’s just the name of the game, but don’t you agree that the last episode we saw would be a good season closer?
    Oh and before anyone asks , No I have never watched Lost.

  64. import says:

    The Wire doesn’t end the season on a cliffhanger for the most part. They tell a whole story in a season.

    God I love it.

  65. import says:

    I might be wrong but I thought they left the last season with us wondering about what would happen after they killed no2 in the gang..The guy who was messing with trying to make them legit with the real estate.. again I might be wrong about that. I just started watching it last season and I love it too. Expecially the kids sub story.. the corner boys.. and that one little gangster girl that looks like a boy.. she has that nail gun.. good stuff. But alas I hate most TV. I treat it like alot of newer comic kids do with trades. If I see a series that looks good , I’ll just buy the DVD collection of the season. I have even stopped watching AdultSwim for the most part because I can only watch the same episodes of Cowboy Bebop or Aqua Teen so many times. I mean get some new stuff guys.. or at least dont replay em so many friggin times I recite lines in my sleep .. sheesh

  66. import says:

    So, I just caught another commercial for next week’s episode of “Heroes.” In both commercials, Ominous Voiceover Man says something like, “Next week… on a show… that’s known for its surprise endings… hoo lordy mama, have we got a doozy for you.”

    I may not have that quote exactly right. There’s a chance he didn’t say “lordy.” My attention trailed off. Because here’s the thing: “Heroes” is not a show known for its surprise endings. That is bullplop. Isn’t it? Has there been a big twist ending on this whole series? I’m drawing a blank.

  67. import says:

    Well, there was the one episode that ended with IndestructiGirl on a slab with chest opened up; I’m thinking that was the one that earned the reputation. But other than that, the endings have been more mild on the surprise-scale: one ended with the Future Sword-Wielding Hiro scene, a couple weeks ago with Psycho Hot Chick firing at her husband etc. Whether these would be considered “twists” or “surprises”, I’m not so sure. But it makes for good marketing, and you have to say this show has been excellent in that area, with the catchphrase and all. Last week’s audience was actually a season-high 16 mil; impressive to be gaining people this deep into the arc.

  68. import says:

    Because here’s the thing: “Heroes” is not a show known for its surprise endings. That is bullplop. Isn’t it? Has there been a big twist ending on this whole series? I’m drawing a blank.

    The people who do the trailers clearly have nothing to do with the show itself. And people who do promos are idiots trying to sell to more idiots.

    Did you see the preview for next week’s Studio 60? It’s like it’s not even for the same show. They’re trying to make it like anyone cares about the love story. NO ONE cares about the love story on that show.

    Gaining viewers isn’t as surprising when you factor in that they’ve been airing re-runs non-stop on Sci-Fi, and there are other means of getting the previous episodes all over the place.

  69. import says:

    And people who do promos are idiots trying to sell to more idiots.

    We had another moment in the -ski house last night after watching Veronica Mars, when my wife said, without irony, “THAT’s what the fight was about? The preview made that look like it was about something else entirely.” It was as if she and I had never spoken before.

  70. import says:

    So anyone else find that Sylar has a serious Clark Kent/Prez Kincade (Read the Sandman: The Worlds End) thing going on?

  71. import says:

    He did looked like Clark Kent at some point.
    However, I believe there is a stronger resemblance (rip off?) with Watchmen’s Dr. Manhattan.
    He also tinkered with watches, and the success of his powers involved “talking” with matter at an atomic level. Kind of what Sylar does with the brain. If I understand correctly, he is able to “fix” the people-with-powers brains of whatever mutation they have and in the process understands what has to be done to use that certain power…
    Exactly the same reason why Dr. Manhattan was the most powerful being in Watchmen…

    Great episode BTW!